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by Sedgistan » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:08 am
by Unibot III » Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:55 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by MANS0N » Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:32 am
Unibot III wrote:Good to see that the Constituting Act of TRRMC has brought all of the accountability and activity promised by the same people who coincidentally hated TRT.
It’s simple. The delegate (someone elected and actually held responsible for their gov’t’s activity), not the Assembly, should appoint an EiC to a fixed term and hold them responsible for producing content. This was a two way street: EiCs were expected to produce content, ensuring the public press is thriving, and the delegate had the EiC’s back when invariably some folks in the Assembly or the Foreign Office complain about individual articles.
My theory though is it’s a difficult environment for NS press to operate in general — everyone is seemingly signing alliances with everyone; and, worse still, not much happens on to report — how do you maintain a critical voice like TRT’s when there is so much pressure on journalists to roll their punches and not disrupt the proverbial apple cart? The revival needs — not stunts like this OP, or more creative involvement from people who don’t really support a free press — no, the revival needs a leader tasked with the job of finding that compelling editorial voice — and if it can be found, it will inspire other writers to join in.
Sedgistan wrote:Since the previous owner of 'The Rejected Realms Media Corporation' telegrammed me to say "Rest assured, this is just a stunt to bring back TRT. I made sure to copy the posts I edited." I look forward to them sending that content to the new owners of the thread, so it can be restored.
by Unibot III » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:45 pm
MANS0N wrote:Unibot III wrote:Good to see that the Constituting Act of TRRMC has brought all of the accountability and activity promised by the same people who coincidentally hated TRT.
It’s simple. The delegate (someone elected and actually held responsible for their gov’t’s activity), not the Assembly, should appoint an EiC to a fixed term and hold them responsible for producing content. This was a two way street: EiCs were expected to produce content, ensuring the public press is thriving, and the delegate had the EiC’s back when invariably some folks in the Assembly or the Foreign Office complain about individual articles.
My theory though is it’s a difficult environment for NS press to operate in general — everyone is seemingly signing alliances with everyone; and, worse still, not much happens on to report — how do you maintain a critical voice like TRT’s when there is so much pressure on journalists to roll their punches and not disrupt the proverbial apple cart? The revival needs — not stunts like this OP, or more creative involvement from people who don’t really support a free press — no, the revival needs a leader tasked with the job of finding that compelling editorial voice — and if it can be found, it will inspire other writers to join in.
I do agree that the EiC should return to coinciding with the position of Media Officer, however, I don’t think trying to assign blame here is a good idea. I disagree with what CoS did and I don’t think it did anything positive, I guess besides encouraging me to write a few articles.
I think it’s silly to expect instant success from any legislation, this constituting act for TRRMC is just another example. There have been various talks about what to do with TRT and as expected, discussion takes time. While lack of activity sucks, loss of time and stunts like these are wayy worse.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Toerana » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:36 pm
by MANS0N » Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm
NEWS / ANALYSIS | WRITTEN BY MANS0N | EDITED BY TRT Staff
by All Wild Things » Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:32 am
by Jar Wattinree » Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:06 am
All Wild Things wrote:Good write up!
Nice to see a new TRT article (especially as we can't see the old ones )
by Wymondham » Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:12 am
MANS0N wrote:After being in the public eye following an impending embassy closure, TNP Minister of Foreign Affairs Wymondham (also notably a member of the Undead Dominion and its successor state, the Khanate, two LWU-backed governments of Lazarus) resigned from his post citing “…warnings being constantly ignored”, alluding to Hulldom’s apparent failure to properly address the TSP-LWU situation in his eyes.
by MANS0N » Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:22 am
Wymondham wrote:MANS0N wrote:After being in the public eye following an impending embassy closure, TNP Minister of Foreign Affairs Wymondham (also notably a member of the Undead Dominion and its successor state, the Khanate, two LWU-backed governments of Lazarus) resigned from his post citing “…warnings being constantly ignored”, alluding to Hulldom’s apparent failure to properly address the TSP-LWU situation in his eyes.
I'm glad someone remembers the moonlighting I did for a few months nearly 6 years ago . Although you do seem to have forgotten the bit where I resigned as speaker of the Assembly and left the region once the Khanate was announced.
by Glacikaldr » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:07 am
Wymondham wrote:MANS0N wrote:After being in the public eye following an impending embassy closure, TNP Minister of Foreign Affairs Wymondham (also notably a member of the Undead Dominion and its successor state, the Khanate, two LWU-backed governments of Lazarus) resigned from his post citing “…warnings being constantly ignored”, alluding to Hulldom’s apparent failure to properly address the TSP-LWU situation in his eyes.
I'm glad someone remembers the moonlighting I did for a few months nearly 6 years ago . Although you do seem to have forgotten the bit where I resigned as speaker of the Assembly and left the region once the Khanate was announced.
by Wymondham » Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:35 am
Glacikaldr wrote:
We've now issued a correction for this at the bottom of the article- thanks for bringing it to our attention o7
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by MANS0N » Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:45 pm
What brought you to TRR?
Goobergunchia: My old regions were dead. TRR still had old friends, a flicker of life, and a philosophy of gameplay I was in alignment with.
Spartan Termopylae: I was invited to join. I know, I rejected myself. Back in 2010, I had been in a region or two with Kaver, I was in a region going nowhere (I'd been in several over the previous 5 years). Kaver invited me over, and I've been here ever since.
Kyorgia: Kyorgia was my second nation in the game. I started the nation be democratic since my first nation was a dictatorship. I was recruited to a democratic region but eventually left that to found my own region. At the time I had no idea how the game worked so I had no recruitment set up for the region or anything like that. Eventually I ended up ejecting myself so I ended up in TRR.
The Grim Reaper: I think I originally came to TRR because Harmoneia convinced me to, but my memory of those early days of TRR are faint and fleeting at best; at one point I was trying to become involved in a lot of different GCRs and that was around the same time.
Thepeopl: I was founded in TWP. I triple posted when I finally gathered enough courage to post. I did not know how to edit nor how to quote multiple posts in 1 post, hence my ejection.
Glacikaldr: What brought me to TRR?
I got to TRR the cool way. I got banjected! Way cooler than being ejected or — heavens forbid — choosing the Rejected Realms willingly!
It was from a passlocked region that one of my partner's classmates put together. My partner gave me the password but everyone eventually caught on that I wasn't from the class, with my nation being a couple years older and much larger than everyone else's.
Why’d you decide to stay?
Goobergunchia: The community. Come for the old NS friends and make new ones. Also, the region's commitment to democracy but not an overly bureaucratic one.
Spartan Termopylae: I already knew one person here, and I received a warm welcome from day one. Whilst I've played more active roles in regions in the past (I was a member of the judiciary of one region), I appreciated the feel of the place, and barring one of two exceptions, I've felt almost a kinship with a lot of the people here.
Kyorgia: What brought you to TRR? I started talking on the RMB and ended up becoming a regular there due to talking to others such as dogeisland. Eventually Unibot, who was delegate at the time, sent out a regional TG since one of his officers had resigned (I think the officer was Feux). I ended up running in the election and was elected to my first office in TRR.
The Grim Reaper: I ended up staying because TRR had a healthy political discourse scene that wasn't so heavily Americanized as the other GCRs are, it was a lot more mature to boot, and at quite a few points had a lot more healthy activity than other GCRs (judging from those old Discord and RMB stats articles that someone used to write).
Thepeopl: Jack, you, Sarah, CoS, Rom, Fratt. And when I joined discord, I could help someone with advice on how to elongate black trousers. And chat about unicorns.
But you made me feel welcome and soon enlisted me as your deputy. And then Karp made me pollster.
Also Rejectmas with Lord of Misrule.
I like our policy of helping newbies and trying to reform trolls/spammers
Glacikaldr: While checking out the World Factbook Entry of the region I now found myself in, I quickly realised the concept of citizenship and regional governments was a whole other side of NationStates that I was yet to tap into.
This quickly inspired me to first join our Discord and then apply for citizenship. Besides from the friendliness I was immediately greeted with, there was also Werewolf, a board game turned bot on our server that gave me plenty of opportunity to meaningfully interact with my new Reject family.
Who were the “old people” in TRR when you joined?
Goobergunchia: Kandarin, CG, Zyonn, Gettersburg.
Spartan Termopylae: Some of the people I remember from back then are the likes of Sedge, CG, Nai, Wop, Codger, I think Unibot was around then, too. Plus people like Wabbitslayah, Fratt, and Guy who are all still around. I know there are plenty more in missing, but my memory isn't quite what it used to be
Kyorgia: There are many different definitions of who qualifies as old but I will just be saying who I remember being in the region at the time. When it comes to the RMB someone like Dogeisland stands out to me as being active and contributing at the time. When it comes to the forum I can remember a few people for various reasons, good and bad. That includes Fratt, Unibot, Campinia and Christian Democrats.
The Grim Reaper: When I joined the old people were Sedge, CG, Fratt, Guy, CoS iirc, and Harm to a lesser extent, I think she had one foot in one foot out.
Thepeopl: Those mentioned above and: Ravania, Altasund, The Place, Margiboof, Codger, Guy, Toerana, Salem, and the Delegate, Kyorgia (then.. not now), Neop, Tupe,
Pharcyde, Ancient Republics, Liberal Republics
Glacikaldr: When first joining our discord server, I was initially met with "old people" like then Delegate TheChurchofSatan, Guy, Fratt, Cat, Manson (thanks for the interview by the way!), and Kyorgia.
In what ways would you say, if any, has TRR changed since your arrival?
Goobergunchia: It's more active than at its nadir but I'd like to see more competitive elections. We used to press our candidates harder than we do now, I think.
Spartan Termopylae: Well, the electoral system has changed, going from a first past the post system to it's current form, which has led to me not voting in elections since, as I disagree with the new format. We've also seen the introduction of the vice-delegate role, the rise of the officer jobs, and the constitution. There was some controversy around some senior members and coups in other regions, and some internal issues around a particular defender organisation and a certain raider group (oddly, not related controversies), but we've been largely stable in that sense for the last several years, now.
Kyorgia: Having been in the region for close to 9 years it has obviously changed a lot. Back when I first arrived in 2014 I was just mostly active on the RMB and eventually as an officer but back then mostly everything was done on the forum. Unlike a lot of the raider regions I was in during late 2014 and 2015 TRR was never active on Skype, so it felt more closed off and in a way elitist on the forum and possvile the IRC but i was never active on IRC so i can't speak to how active that actually was. I think the biggest change both for TRR and in many ways for Nationstates as a game was discord. Stuff became a lot more open and social and in many ways less restrictive. The core values of TRR is something I think has not changed. It is a region for second chances and a region anyone can join and succeed in. For most of my early career on NS I was a raider but even with TRR being one of Nationstates biggest defender regions I never felt unwelcome or like I didn't belong in the region. That in many ways is TRRs biggest strength.
The Grim Reaper: Since I arrived TRR has slowed down a little but ultimately it's really been much the same for a long time - it is much quieter, we do less WW, less codenames and diplomacy etc, but a lot of the same people are still around albeit with less frequency; we've got new faces like Salem and DoomHerald, Kyo has really moved pretty firmly into the TRR Elite and so forth.
Thepeopl: I'd like to think I brought some kindness, politeness and happiness to TRR.
But in reality I think I probably brought more smut, weird book references who no one gets and loads of recipes of "dutch" foods. I'm not a real dutchie so, more fusion than dutch cuisine.
I think the rmb is even less used as "true TRR" than when I started. And the forum is quite dead.
Glacikaldr: Most prominently for me, our journalism has gone through significant ups and downs. When I first became a citizen, John Laurens was working on reviving our media, with me quickly becoming Deputy and then Media Officer for two terms. Media and The Rejected Times has since changed drastically, now in a period of inactivity indisputably linked to the decision to remove Media from our ministries.
The current diminished state of The Rejected Times and what was the Media Officer role's legitimacy within the Rejected Realms has undoubtedly hurt our ability to project our presence as a high-profile Sinker in the NationStates community at large. This lack of presence is something I tried to help address during a term as Foreign Affairs Officer, producing issues very similar to what The Rejected Times was, and unfortunately only the Rejected Realms Army still meaningfully projects our presence as of writing.
My greatest regret is that I have been a part of this period of time where our citizens have lost control over the narrative about our region.
Looking forward, what are some hopes you have for TRR’s future?
Goobergunchia: We've been seeing more newer players get involved recently, which is great. I'm also hoping that recent events present an opportunity for TRR's traditional brand of defender philosophy to make a resurgence.
Spartan Termopylae: I'd like to see the forum activity expand again, but I may be behind the times there, as I have been told that things happen more on discord, but hey ho. I just want the region to grow, really.
Kyorgia: I started my time off in TRR as a raider and I feel like as a region that openness to accept everyone regardless of gameplay associations is very important. My biggest hope is that TRR continues being so open and welcoming. It sounds cliche or like an easy answer but it is something I always thought about as a raider and as a citizen of TRR back then.
The Grim Reaper: Looking forward I hope TRR can develop a strategy to achieve sustainable growth, I do think it's hard for regions to maintain a consistent culture in NS if they recruit actively, and difficult for them to maintain their numbers if they don't; I think it's cool that NS as a community has really become, frankly, a legacy of the old internet (this stupid site is two decades old), and it would be cool if TRR did become the kind of community where people can come and hang out for a little bit, share some nostalgia with people who they've known for ages every now and again, maybe be able to drop in for an event or something every now and again without feeling you're obliged to rock up to help make events more feasible on the numbers.
Thepeopl: I hope Mhaul will be the next delegate. And have more community on the RMB. But that's probably just my old age. I'm not a great fan of discord.
I hope ppl will learn to communicate differently with trolls/spammers. Some of them just need a kind word, honest question and a polite, "could you please stop".
One day our residents will not quote spam/inappropriate messages and just ping the offensive nation.
I have hopes that newbies will read all guides on the wfe (homerian laughter).
Glacikaldr: I do still await the day when there is the right environment for us to redefine how the majority of our citizens value outward communication. In the meantime, I hope we do not continue to lose legitimacy around being a success story for democracy, as a Sinker no less. We need to remain and proudly proclaim ourselves as proof that you can cultivate an online community that cares about shaping its future as a collective.
by MANS0N » Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:49 pm
by One Small Island » Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:03 pm
by Unibot III » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:06 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Galactic Powers » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:41 am
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