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South Pacific Belschaft
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Postby South Pacific Belschaft » Thu May 29, 2014 8:17 pm

This TSP-LWU thing is absurd. LWU hadn't run a military operation, never mind shown any signs of having a functioning government, in over a year and a half when TSP repealed the treaty.
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McMasterdonia
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Postby McMasterdonia » Thu May 29, 2014 8:18 pm

Unibot III wrote:
McMasterdonia wrote:I think TSP and TNP have a strong relationship and that our treaty helped to strengthen that bond. Wouldn't you agree?


Doesn't sound like the attitude of someone who wants to be allies..


I'm going to assume that you meant to quote Evil Wolf. If not, please explain.

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The Rejected Times
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Postby The Rejected Times » Fri May 30, 2014 9:53 pm

Thread closed
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Through The Breach
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Postby Through The Breach » Fri May 30, 2014 9:56 pm

A well written summary of the events, very nice! :clap:

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Vaculatestar64
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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:00 pm

omg how ridiculously biased can one newspaper be? I hesitate to call this a newspaper, more like one of those ridiculous magazines you read while waiting in line at Walmart. :rofl:

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Evil Wolf
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri May 30, 2014 10:03 pm

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Hogwarts had been griefed and refounded by the Lone Wolves United, but after their chosen founder was discovered to be “Delete-on-Sight” (DOS) and subsequently deleted


To set the record straight, this is not correct. That player became DoS during his time as founder, not before it. He was not "discovered" to be DoS so much as he became DoS and all his nations were deleted.
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The Rejected Times
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Postby The Rejected Times » Fri May 30, 2014 10:05 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Hogwarts had been griefed and refounded by the Lone Wolves United, but after their chosen founder was discovered to be “Delete-on-Sight” (DOS) and subsequently deleted


To set the record straight, this is not correct. That player became DoS during his time as founder, not before it. He was not "discovered" to be DoS so much as he became DoS and all his nations were deleted.


What you've quoted has already been changed for the sake of clarity - but thanks anyways!

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Evil Wolf
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri May 30, 2014 10:07 pm

You're very much welcome. I know accuracy and an unbiased opinion is always something The Rejected Times prides itself in sometimes having.
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

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Postby Nierr » Fri May 30, 2014 10:12 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:You're very much welcome. I know accuracy and an unbiased opinion is always something The Rejected Times prides itself in sometimes having.

So much snark. :P

Are there any NS papers with 'unbiased' opinions? :P

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Evil Wolf
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri May 30, 2014 10:13 pm

Only the ones that come out of The North Pacific. :P
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

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Benevolent Thomas
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri May 30, 2014 10:16 pm

I wonder what the copy looked like in the case that the resolution failed. I wonder if TR Times would call for my tar and feathering like those in the SC have :p
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Vaculatestar64
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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:22 pm

I wouldn't doubt it. :P

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Through The Breach
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Postby Through The Breach » Fri May 30, 2014 10:25 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder what the copy looked like in the case that the resolution failed. I wonder if TR Times would call for my tar and feathering like those in the SC have :p


You literally make no sense, its like you're an LWU plant in TITO or something or you just fail at basic comprehension.

You support "refound-blind" as Unbiot says which makes no sense to someone who calls themselves a Defender.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri May 30, 2014 10:31 pm

Darn those defenders, making it hard for a bunch of raiders to keep griefing the region! What ever will they do, now? Good thing there's people around to lament this tragedy!

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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:34 pm

Through The Breach wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder what the copy looked like in the case that the resolution failed. I wonder if TR Times would call for my tar and feathering like those in the SC have :p


You literally make no sense, its like you're an LWU plant in TITO or something or you just fail at basic comprehension.

You support "refound-blind" as Unbiot says which makes no sense to someone who calls themselves a Defender.



Dear god please tell me you're trolling. :rofl:

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Benevolent Thomas
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri May 30, 2014 10:37 pm

Through The Breach wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder what the copy looked like in the case that the resolution failed. I wonder if TR Times would call for my tar and feathering like those in the SC have :p


You literally make no sense, its like you're an LWU plant in TITO or something or you just fail at basic comprehension.

You support "refound-blind" as Unbiot says which makes no sense to someone who calls themselves a Defender.

You just keep trying to bait me kiddo. Although I'm sure EW wouldn't mind having another "TITO SPY" story on their WFE for the years to come :P I assure you that I am the furthest thing from an invader sympathizer. I do this for the natives and the natives only. Feel free to ask around about my dedication to the cause.
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Cormac A Stark
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Fri May 30, 2014 10:39 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Darn those defenders, making it hard for a bunch of raiders to keep griefing the region! What ever will they do, now? Good thing there's people around to lament this tragedy!

Is this the official position of The South Pacific or do you only wear your TSP hat when trolling Onder Kelkia?

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Glen-Rhodes
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri May 30, 2014 10:41 pm

We all know XKI would change their tune as soon as it's their region being refounded by invaders.

Then again, XKI has always been the oddball of defenderdom. Always going against the grain, for no particular purpose.

Cormac A Stark wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Darn those defenders, making it hard for a bunch of raiders to keep griefing the region! What ever will they do, now? Good thing there's people around to lament this tragedy!

Is this the official position of The South Pacific or do you only wear your TSP hat when trolling Onder Kelkia?

TSP voted for the liberation, so I would be surprised if TSP's official position would be lamenting the passage of the liberation. :eyebrow:
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Vaculatestar64
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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:42 pm

They seem to have more success than the rest of you.

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Cormac A Stark
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Fri May 30, 2014 10:46 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:TSP voted for the liberation, so I would be surprised if TSP's official position would be lamenting the passage of the liberation. :eyebrow:

I'm not referring to support or opposition to the resolution, I'm referring to your extreme hostility to and bias against the "raiders" who are "griefing" Hogwarts, which include the imperialist, not raider, military forces of two Sinkers with which The South Pacific has varying degrees of diplomatic relations.

So, again, do your extreme views that depict the forces of two Sinkers as raiders and griefers represent The South Pacific?

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Benevolent Thomas
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri May 30, 2014 10:55 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:We all know XKI would change their tune as soon as it's their region being refounded by invaders.

Then again, XKI has always been the oddball of defenderdom. Always going against the grain, for no particular purpose.

XKI actually has a community, unlike Hogwarts. 10KI citizens have authored multiple SC Liberations that have served their designed purpose and native communities were protected because of them. You're just another one of those all-talk defenders, Glen. If actually defending makes me an oddball, then I'm proud to fly that freak flag high.
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri May 30, 2014 11:01 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:TSP voted for the liberation, so I would be surprised if TSP's official position would be lamenting the passage of the liberation. :eyebrow:

I'm not referring to support or opposition to the resolution, I'm referring to your extreme hostility to and bias against the "raiders" who are "griefing" Hogwarts, which include the imperialist, not raider, military forces of two Sinkers with which The South Pacific has varying degrees of diplomatic relations.

So, again, do your extreme views that depict the forces of two Sinkers as raiders and griefers represent The South Pacific?

TSP's delegate voted for the liberation, along with the vast majority of those in the region who voted on it, so it stands that TSP endorses the language of the liberation. I don't think it's particularly "extreme" to say that the occupying forces in Hogwarts are raiders who have griefed the region. It's kind of a textbook example of griefing. If "the imperialist, not raider, military forces of two Sinkers with which The South Pacific has varying degrees of diplomatic relations" didn't want to be accused of griefing the region, perhaps they shouldn't have helped LWU grief the region. Let's call a spade a spade.

Now, can we get back to joking around and lamenting the liberation, and not trying to make every little jape a diplomatic crisis?

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri May 30, 2014 11:04 pm

I posted this in the SC thread originally, but it seems appropriate here as well [ slightly revised]

I can certainly see where 10KI/TITO are coming from on their opinions. However, I did support the resolution. I'm more than frustrated with Raiders in general at the moment and am happy to see 19 of them bogged down in Hogwarts for what could be even longer now. The longer they're stuck in that region, the less damage they can do to other Founderless Regions across Nationstates. What can I say, I have a twisted moral code.

That doesn't mean we should discount 10KI for what they're doing. To those slamming TITO for being ineffective Defenders, their updaters are on every update spotting and working to keep founderless regions safe. Just because you're so ignorant of it doesn't mean that they aren't there. I find their reasoning fair, and I'm a Defender (aren't I?). So to the Raiders slamming them for this; bugger off, eh? To those hiding behind aliases. Grow up and grow a pair; post with your main. Especially those aliases who are either Defenders or pretending to be Defenders. Show me that you do as much work as TITO does every night, then maybe you can have the right to criticize them. Alright?

I think Wordy said it best regarding the puppeting. Just use your main nation, folks, or don't post at all.
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Cormac A Stark
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Fri May 30, 2014 11:07 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:If "the imperialist, not raider, military forces of two Sinkers with which The South Pacific has varying degrees of diplomatic relations" didn't want to be accused of griefing the region, perhaps they shouldn't have helped LWU grief the region. Let's call a spade a spade.

Now, can we get back to joking around and lamenting the liberation, and not trying to make every little jape a diplomatic crisis?

Yes, feel free. I don't want a diplomatic crisis, as I don't think your views are representative of TSP and I suspect that will become clear soonish.

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