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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:01 pm

Ainin wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Why are we not on Pacific Daylight Time? :unsure:

Because the guy that compiled the initial vote counter decided to use PST.


For once, it wasn't me! :)
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:26 pm

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And did anyone pay attention when it was pointed out?


Yes, several Senators changed their vote.

I'd like to change mine to Nay from Aye on that particular bill. The SBAA that is.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:13 pm

I vote the following.

Universal Health Care Act: Nay
Educational Framework Establishment Act: Aye
Free School Meal Act: Nay
Small Business Assistance Act: Very Strong Nay
Universal Credit Act: Nay
Public Education Act: Aye
Commonwealth Fire Services Act: Aye
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Postby Potenco » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:35 pm

Universal Health Care Act: Yea
Educational Framework Establishment Act: Yea
Free School Meal Act: Yea
Small Business Assistance Act: Yea
Universal Credit Act: Nay
Public Education Act: Yea
Commonwealth Fire Services Act: Yea
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:43 pm

In Small Business Assistance Act, I would like to change my abstain to a very strong nay.
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Darmen wrote:
Governmental Services Act | Voting Ends: Thursday July 11th, 2013 8:37 pm PST

Universal Healthcare Act
For: 47
Against: 18
Abstain: 2

Educational Framework Establishment Act
For: 26
Against: 30
Abstain: 10

Free School Meals Act
For: 48
Against: 14
Abstain: 5

Small Business Assistance Act
For: 33
Against: 26
Abstain: 6

Universal Credit Act
For: 37
Against: 21
Abstain: 9

Public Education Act
For: 39
Against: 21
Abstain: 7

Commonwealth Fire Services Act
For: 60
Against: 5
Abstain: 2
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:02 pm

Ainin wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Why are we not on Pacific Daylight Time? :unsure:

Because the guy that compiled the initial vote counter decided to use PST.

I initially put gmt, so i dont know where the pst came in
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Postby Vedastia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:24 pm

I checked when voting began and it read 20:37. My forum time is set to PDT (UTC-7), not PST (UTC-8), so there is one hour less of voting time than previously indicated.
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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:46 pm

Governmental Services Act | Voting Ends: Thursday July 11th, 2013 4:37 pm GMT

Universal Healthcare Act
For: 48
Against: 18
Abstain: 2

Educational Framework Establishment Act
For: 26
Against: 30
Abstain: 11

Free School Meals Act
For: 49
Against: 14
Abstain: 5

Small Business Assistance Act
For: 34
Against: 27
Abstain: 6

Universal Credit Act
For: 38
Against: 21
Abstain: 9

Public Education Act
For: 40
Against: 21
Abstain: 7

Commonwealth Fire Services Act
For: 61
Against: 5
Abstain: 2
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:48 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Governmental Services Act | Voting Ends: Thursday July 11th, 2013 8:37 pm PST

Universal Healthcare Act
For: 48
Against: 18
Abstain: 2

Educational Framework Establishment Act
For: 26
Against: 30
Abstain: 11

Free School Meals Act
For: 49
Against: 14
Abstain: 5

Small Business Assistance Act
For: 34
Against: 27
Abstain: 6

Universal Credit Act
For: 38
Against: 21
Abstain: 9

Public Education Act
For: 40
Against: 21
Abstain: 7

Commonwealth Fire Services Act
For: 61
Against: 5
Abstain: 2


Can we just agree that the time at which voting ends is in accordance with the time which is listed in NS posts?


We are going to be forcing everyone to be doing a time conversion no matter what. We might as well the central one (gmt), which is more official and more appropriate for our Nation anyway
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Postby Phing Phong » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Can we just agree that the time at which voting ends is in accordance with the time which is listed in NS posts?


We are going to be forcing everyone to be doing a time conversion no matter what. We might as well the central one (gmt), which is more official and more appropriate for our Nation anyway


UTC/GMT, with no daylight saving time, is the simplest standard time to use, as all other time zones operate in reference to it (GMT-7 etc.)
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Postby Wolfmanne » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:52 pm

Changing my vote on the 'Educational Framework Establishment Act' from for to against.
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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:53 pm

Then if my sources serve me correctly, we should list 4:37 am GMT?
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Postby Rumostan » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:53 pm

Well, our children are going to be stupid.
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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:55 pm

Rumostan wrote:Well, our children are going to be stupid.


This comment is for the lobby.
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Postby Maryginia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:56 pm

I change my vote on the fire services act from nay to aye.
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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:59 pm

Governmental Services Act | Voting Ends: Thursday July 11th, 2013 3:37 pm GMT

Universal Healthcare Act
For: 48
Against: 18
Abstain: 2

Educational Framework Establishment Act
For: 25
Against: 31
Abstain: 11

Free School Meals Act
For: 49
Against: 14
Abstain: 5

Small Business Assistance Act
For: 34
Against: 27
Abstain: 6

Universal Credit Act
For: 38
Against: 21
Abstain: 9

Public Education Act
For: 40
Against: 21
Abstain: 7

Commonwealth Fire Services Act
For: 62
Against: 4
Abstain: 2
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Postby Chestaan » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:06 pm

Universal Health Care Act: For (with reservations)
Educational Framework Establishment Act: Against
Free School Meal Act: For
Small Business Assistance Act: For
Universal Credit Act: For
Public Education Act: For
Commonwealth Fire Services Act: For
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Postby Vedastia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:30 pm

Venaleria wrote:Then if my sources serve me correctly, we should list 4:37 am GMT?

03:37, actually, but I'm not sure if we should go by 20:37 PDT (which is the actual start time of the vote) or 20:37 PST (which is one hour ahead of the actual start time, but was mentioned as the start time).
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Postby Phing Phong » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:55 pm

Vedastia wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Then if my sources serve me correctly, we should list 4:37 am GMT?

03:37, actually, but I'm not sure if we should go by 20:37 PDT (which is the actual start time of the vote) or 20:37 PST (which is one hour ahead of the actual start time, but was mentioned as the start time).

We should use the actual start time in GMT, which I believe is 03:37 GMT. Clerical errors in recording the starting time on the counter do not affect when the vote started.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:26 pm

Universal Health Care Act: Yea
Educational Framework Establishment Act: Nay
Free School Meal Act: Yea
Small Business Assistance Act: Yea
Universal Credit Act: Nay
Public Education Act: Nay
Commonwealth Fire Services Act: Yea
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Postby Vedastia » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:44 pm

Phing Phong wrote:
Vedastia wrote:03:37, actually, but I'm not sure if we should go by 20:37 PDT (which is the actual start time of the vote) or 20:37 PST (which is one hour ahead of the actual start time, but was mentioned as the start time).

We should use the actual start time in GMT, which I believe is 03:37 GMT. Clerical errors in recording the starting time on the counter do not affect when the vote started.

Exactly.
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Postby Venaleria » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:51 pm

Governmental Services Act | Voting Ends: Thursday July 11th, 2013 3:37 GMT

Universal Healthcare Act
For: 50
Against: 18
Abstain: 2

Educational Framework Establishment Act
For: 25
Against: 33
Abstain: 11

Free School Meals Act
For: 51
Against: 14
Abstain: 5

Small Business Assistance Act
For: 36
Against: 27
Abstain: 6

Universal Credit Act
For: 39
Against: 22
Abstain: 9

Public Education Act
For: 41
Against: 22
Abstain: 7

Commonwealth Fire Services Act
For: 64
Against: 4
Abstain: 2
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Postby New Sapienta » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:04 pm

I apologize if I should not post this here.

I submit this bill to the waiting list.

Military Pensions Act


Author(s): New Sapienta (PC)
Co-Sponsors: Byzantium Imperial (NIFP), Kalmath (PC), Hathradic States (NIFP), Wolfmanne (PC), New Zepuha (Independent), CTALNH (USLP), Unicario (SFP), Liberated Counties (CFE)



RECOGNIZING the valiant service the men and women have given Aurentia in it's time of need.

LAMENTING that such men and women can suffer problems in the civilian world.

RESOLVING to aid them in their time of need.

Article I- Definitions
1a. "Military" shall be defined as anyone who has served in any branch of the Commonwealth military, the police force, or the fire service.
1b. "Serviceperson" shall be defined as any man or woman who has served in the Commonwealth military for a full tour, or has served in the police forces or fire service for an equal amount of time.

Article II- Pensions
2a. Creates the Serviceperson's Pension Program, or (SPP), which shall serve to offer $50,000 a year in disposable income to serviceman who have retired at or past the legal retirement age, and have served 10 years, been critically wounded preventing further service or a full tour in an active combat role. This amount shall be subject to cuts or raises by the Senate's budget.
2b. Creates the Serviceperson's Automobile Program, or (SAP), to provide free automobile insurance to retired serviceman.
2c. Creates the Serviceperson's Homeowner's Program, or (SHP), which shall provide free homeowner's insurance to retired serviceman.
2d. Creates the Serviceperson's Life Program, or (SLP), providing free medical insurance unless already covered by any system of universal healthcare.
2e. Creates the Serviceperson's Job Program, or (SLJ), to aid physically and mentally impaired veterans to find jobs in the civilian economy.
2e. Any member of the SPP, SAP, SHP, SLP, or SLJ shall be appointed by the government.
2f. Creates the Serviceperson's Business Alliance, or (SBA), which shall be in charge of encouraging business to give discounts to veterans as charity. Participation by business shall be entirely voluntary.
2g. The SPP, SAP, SHP, SLP, SLJ, and SBA shall not receive private investments or in any way act like a business other than help veterans.
2h. The SPP, SAP, SHP, SLP, SLJ, and SBA shall be ministered by the Ministry of Interiors.

Article III- Ethics
3a. It shall be punishable by 10 years in jail and suitable amounts of fines to be a member of the SPP, SAP, SHP, SLP, SLJ, or SBA and embezzle money into one's own possession.
3b. Such punishments shall be handed out by the civilian judicial system.
3c. It shall be illegal for any serviceperson to knowingly exploit the SPP and rig the system to receive more than $50,000 per year unless such amount is raised by the Senate.



EDIT: Thank you Ainin.
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