NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Beta Test]

Seventhed. I always seem to get here seventh.

Eighthed.

Ninthed.

[Holyhex]

Eighthed.

Ninthed.

Tenthed.

[Britanno]

11th.

[Free South Califas]

I move to put the Senatorial Procedures Omnibus at the top of the queue because it contains an amendment to the REA, which plays a part in elections in 8 days. Passing the amendment before the elections would be beneficial.

This requires 15 seconds and admin approval, which I grant.

12th.

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Ainin, you might want to change "negative smoke effects" to "negative health effects". As for me, I'm fine with everything in TAA except the sales tax. I can't accept regressive taxes, FWIW.

I move to add this to the Legality and Restrictions Act.

Tobacco Action Act | Author: Ainin [TR], Oneracon [RG] | Sponsors: Geilinor [LD], Yanalia [RG], Gothmogs [TR], Maklohi Vai [LD], The IASM, Potenco [RG] | Urgency: High

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Affirming tobacco is noxious to the health of Aurentines,

Declaring tobacco to be a recreational drug for the purpose of this act, therefore exempt from the Bodily Sovereignty Act,

Noting a vast majority of surveys show that second-hand smoke has negative smoke effects, a fact acknowledged by several tobacco companies and the WHO,

Enacting the following clauses:

• All business owners are subject to an opt-out smoking ban in their establishments.
• This ban includes a twenty metre radius around all non-emergency exits.
• All business owners choosing to opt-out must display a sign stating so in English and Aurentine, in a visible manner at all entrances.
• It is prohibited to use tobacco products under any circumstance in banks, clinics, hospitals, schools, aircraft and trains.
• Any person caught by law enforcement attempting to break this ban may be charged with a contravention to be known as attempt to propagate dangerous fumes.
• The Ministry of Health reserves the right to order businesses or certain areas of businesses to retain a smoking ban in the interest of public health. This includes but is not limited to:
  • banks and credit unions;
  • the interiors of aircraft, trains, buses, or other public vehicles;
  • educational institutions;
  • child care facilities;
  • medical facilities;
  • supermarkets and other grocery purveyors;
  • restaurant food handling areas.
• It is a contravention to smoke in a permanent structure superior in size to 100m² owned by the Government of Aurentina, or subdivisions thereof.
• Tobacco and products derived thereof shall be taxed 20% of its selling price, excluding any supplementary taxes.
• Tobacco and tobacco-derived products may not be sold in establishments whose target audience is below the age of 18.
• Attempts to sell tobacco outside authorized channels is a derelict.
• Minors may not use tobacco and tobacco-derived products.
• Attempting to offer or sell tobacco products to minors in a derelict.
• At least half of a box of tobacco products must be reserved for a Ministry of Health warning label.
• The use of overtly flashy or glamourous packaging, to be decided by the Ministry of Health, is interdicted.
• Deliberate attempts to feed a mammal, amphibian, bird or lizard tobacco, or products derived thereof, is animal abuse, to be defined as a contravention.

Hereby passes the Tobacco Action Act.

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Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act

Author: New Waterford [LD] Urgency: Low Sponsors: Ainin [TR], Gothmogs [TR], Beta Test [LD], Maklohi Vai [LD], Kouralia [USLP], Rumostan [CM], Malgrave [USLP]

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The Senate of Aurentina,

APPALLED that some bills which are passing through our Senate contain excruciating grammar, spelling and punctuation errors,

BELIEVING that we, as Senators and leaders of the Aurentine people, ought to set an example to them in all aspects,

RECOGNISING that the Senators who commit such errors often do so through no fault of their own,

ESTABLISHES the position of proof-readers to correct errors in following legislation before they enter the chamber,

MANDATES that spelling errors should be corrected according to the spelling rules of British English,

MANDATES that the proof-readers shall be appointed by the Minister of Interiors, based on their knowledge of the spelling, punctuation and grammar rules of the English language,

HEREBY PASSES the Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act.

This bill has enough sponsors to be added to the queue.

I like it. I like it a lot.

[Paladina]

13th

[Polvia]

14th

[Maryginia]

I'd Like to announce my intention to Run for President on an Independent ticket.

[Haelunor]

Fifteenthed.

[Beta Test]

I'd Like to announce my intention to Run for President on an Independent ticket.

Oh my god Ainin just finished the candidates' chart.

[Rumostan]

I'd Like to announce my intention to Run for President on an Independent ticket.

Oh my god Ainin just finished the candidates' chart.

Ah no, he said that his chart was at the largest extent that it could go to without using paint, he didn't say that he had finished it. Anyway, you still have to wait for the CMP's candidate.

[Venaleria]

New queue:

Senate Legislative Queue

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Next in Queue: Senatorial Procedures Omnibus
2. Governmental Services Act
3. Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act
4. National Culture Act
5. National Financing and Accounting Act
6. Legality and Restrictions Act
7. Anti Corruption Omnibus
8. International Treaties Ratification Act
9. Economic Oversight Act
10. Civil Liberties Omnibus
11. Internet Omnibus Act
12. Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal
13. Standards of Daily Measurement Act
14. Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN
15. Environment Act
16. Transportation Amendments and Standards Omnibus
17. Armed Forces Reform Act
18. Revenue Collection Act of 2013
19. State of Emergency Act
20. National Fingerprint Registry
21. Social Welfare Act

[Ainin]

Oh my god Ainin just finished the candidates' chart.

Ah no, he said that his chart was at the largest extent that it could go to without using paint, he didn't say that he had finished it. Anyway, you still have to wait for the CMP's candidate.

I was told the CMP would not run anyone.

[Mediciano]

The Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN should be higher on the list, as it is a current, rapidly evolving situation, whose circumstances may change quickly, and may affect the relevancy of the Condemnation.

[Rumostan]

Ah no, he said that his chart was at the largest extent that it could go to without using paint, he didn't say that he had finished it. Anyway, you still have to wait for the CMP's candidate.

I was told the CMP would not run anyone.

Oh no, we are. Two people have said that they would like to run and they are now giving their reasons to run for the Presidency.

[Blassland]

The Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN should be higher on the list, as it is a current, rapidly evolving situation, whose circumstances may change quickly, and may affect the relevancy of the Condemnation.

Surely we are not considering taking Edward Snowden?

[Maklohi Vai]

The Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN should be higher on the list, as it is a current, rapidly evolving situation, whose circumstances may change quickly, and may affect the relevancy of the Condemnation.

Surely we are not considering taking Edward Snowden?

No, some people want to give him honorary citizenship. Personally I don't understand it.

[Blassland]

I do not support American actions, they are reprehensible, but for our nation to take him on would be a blow to our own prestige when the Americans swoop in (eventually they will) and kill/kidnap Snowden.

[Mediciano]

I do not support American actions, they are reprehensible, but for our nation to take him on would be a blow to our own prestige when the Americans swoop in (eventually they will) and kill/kidnap Snowden.

I don't think that, in the wake of the US being caught spying on European nations, they would dare invade or violate the national sovereignty, authority and dominion of another European nation. Not even the American leadership would be so stupid.

[Blassland]

I don't think that, in the wake of the US being caught spying on European nations, they would dare invade or violate the national sovereignty, authority and dominion of another European nation. Not even the American leadership would be so stupid.

(OOC: As an American from the heartland I can say that there would be support for it)
It is not open violation of our sovereignty that would occur, but they could easily enter using subversion and secrecy.

[Potenco]

The Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN should be higher on the list, as it is a current, rapidly evolving situation, whose circumstances may change quickly, and may affect the relevancy of the Condemnation.

I dont think this country needs another libertarian. Seriously, deciding to take in Americas biggest traitors would needlessly complicate our relations with the US

[Mishmahig]

The Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN should be higher on the list, as it is a current, rapidly evolving situation, whose circumstances may change quickly, and may affect the relevancy of the Condemnation.

I dont think this country needs another libertarian. Seriously, deciding to take in Americas biggest traitors would needlessly complicate our relations with the US

Agreed. Also, I don't think we should act rashly at all----like Mediciano said, it's a current, rapidly evolving situation. It's better to see what the final situation might be, rather than a knee-jerk reaction.

[Mediciano]

It is not open violation of our sovereignty that would occur, but they could easily enter using subversion and secrecy.

(OOC:Also, the American "heartland" is hardly representative of the nation. I live outside of Boston and know many people from the East and West Coast, and I can say that there would be very little support from the more populated/urbanized/culturally superior areas of the country.)

Somehow I can't see Snowden dying/being deported "accidentally," and then anyone but the most gullible fools buying the "we didn't do it" response from America.

Why should we not shelter those who stand up for human rights and stick to their morals despite the consequences? He acted in favor of justice, and he is now prosecuted for it. Damn the negative relations with the United States, supporting this man is the right thing to do. We just have to do it before it is too late.

[Mishmahig]

(OOC:Also, the American "heartland" is hardly representative of the nation. I live outside of Boston and know many people from the East and West Coast, and I can say that there would be very little support from the more populated/urbanized/culturally superior areas of the country.)

OOC: You forgot arrogant, too, there, laddie.

Why should we not shelter those who stand up for human rights and stick to their morals despite the consequences? He acted in favor of justice, and he is now prosecuted for it. Damn the negative relations with the United States, supporting this man is the right thing to do. We just have to do it before it is too late.

He also broke the law. Whether or not the laws in America are just or not should not be any of our business. He broke a law, let America deal with him, and the consequences of their actions thereof. I mean, really, it's not like he's going to be up against a wall and shot the second he enters the country again.

[Blassland]

(OOC:Also, the American "heartland" is hardly representative of the nation. I live outside of Boston and know many people from the East and West Coast, and I can say that there would be very little support from the more populated/urbanized/culturally superior areas of the country.)

Somehow I can't see Snowden dying/being deported "accidentally," and then anyone but the most gullible fools buying the "we didn't do it" response from America.

Why should we not shelter those who stand up for human rights and stick to their morals despite the consequences? He acted in favor of justice, and he is now prosecuted for it. Damn the negative relations with the United States, supporting this man is the right thing to do. We just have to do it before it is too late.

(OOC: That doesnt matter, some conservative politicians would be barking to do something rash and violent and the damned congress would be even shittier than usual.)
"The Americans don`t need anybody to buy it, nobody would dare fight them. Snowden committed treason against his country, regardless of the cause it is wrong. 'Justice' is not the betrayal of one`s country, he releases information to gain sympathizers. If he truly wanted to stop the U.S. spying on other countries he would have said it from the beginning, he wants a knee jerk reaction that would secure his safety. I also believe such an action would only hurt us on the international stage."

[Mediciano]

OOC: You forgot arrogant, too, there, laddie.

(OOC: Just because we are college educated doesn't mean we're arrogant. That's a joke, by the way and in no way representative of my true opinions regarding people from other parts of the nation. The "culturally superior" one was a joke too, but no one seemed to get it.)

He also broke the law. Whether or not the laws in America are just or not should not be any of our business. He broke a law, let America deal with him, and the consequences of their actions thereof. I mean, really, it's not like he's going to be up against a wall and shot the second he enters the country again.

In a globalized world it is our business whether laws in other countries are "just." We cannot stand by and let injustices fly over our heads, we must stand up and put a stop to them, in whatever small way we can. I see this condemnation as that small way.

And no, he will have a brief, predetermined trial then be *figuratively* lined up against a wall and shot.