NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Britanno]

I move to add this to the queue (again).

Voting Reform Act

Urgency: Very High
Author: Resora (C)
Sponsors: Free South Califas (C). Jozef van Oostvoorne (C), Malgrave (USLP), Welsh Cowboy (I), Oneracon (RG), Geilinor (LD), Osea 767 (C), CTALNH (USLP), Eliasonia (NIFP)

Description:

Recognizing the fact that abuse of certain legislative procedures has become a problem in the Senate;

Dismayed by the fact that a small minority of senators can hold the entire Senate hostage by indefinitely prolonging voting windows;

Concerned over the high potential for voter fraud made possible by "proxy" voting;

The author and sponsors of this bill move that the following be passed into law.

(a): Proxy votes are hereby declared invalid. A senator's vote can only be cast by the senator in question.

(b): Motions for the extension of voting windows are only valid if the vote has failed to meet a quorum of 25% of standing Senators by the end of the original voting window, as determined by the most recent Senate census.

(c): Any extension allowed under section (b) of this law may not exceed twenty-four (24) hours in excess of the original voting window, and no more than one extension is allowed per bill.

(d): Any motion to extend the voting window for an active bill allowed under section (b) of this law requires the support of no less than fifteen (15) senators.

Opposed. Not that anyone will care, just putting it out there

[Welsh Cowboy]

CURRENT QUEUE FOR LEGISLATION

1. Executive Reform Act
2. Governmental Services Act
3. Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act
4. National Culture Act
5. National Financing and Accounting Act
6. Legality and Restrictions Act
7. Senatorial Procedures Act
8. Anti-Corruption Act
9. International Treaties Ratification Act
10. Economic Oversight Act
11. Death with Dignity Act
12. Internet Registration Act
13. Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal
14. Standards of Daily Measurement Act
15. Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN
16. Animal Protection Act
17. Amend Transportation Ministry Provision Act 2013
18. Amend National Census Bureau Establishment Act
19. Repeal Commerce Ministry Act
20. Military Discipline and Structure Act
21. Corps Creation Charter
22. Commercial Usage of Railways Act
23. Revenue Collection Act of 2013
24. Prime Minister and President's Questions Act
25. Voting Reform Act

Added the VRA, and removed a duplicate of the Corps Creation Charter.

[Britanno]

Er... are we supposed to debate the Executive Reform Act now?

[NSG Senate Administrators]

If the admin vote remains at 3-3 by the end of the designated period, then the vote will stand and Geilinor will not be elected.

We understand the warning of Nihil may not sit well with people, but the warning stands unless there is an unanimous admin decision to overturn it.

[Yanalia]

Er... are we supposed to debate the Executive Reform Act now?

I suppose we could, as PM voting is suspended.

[Darmen]

CURRENT QUEUE FOR LEGISLATION

1. Executive Reform Act
2. Governmental Services Act
3. Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act
4. National Culture Act
5. National Financing and Accounting Act
6. Legality and Restrictions Act
7. Senatorial Procedures Act
8. Anti-Corruption Act
9. International Treaties Ratification Act
10. Economic Oversight Act
11. Death with Dignity Act
12. Internet Registration Act
13. Voting out business management without holding shares is stupid idea and illegal
14. Standards of Daily Measurement Act
15. Condemnation of United States National Security Agency project: US-984XN
16. Animal Protection Act
17. Amend Transportation Ministry Provision Act 2013
18. Amend National Census Bureau Establishment Act
19. Repeal Commerce Ministry Act
20. Armed Forces Reform Act
21. Commercial Usage of Railways Act
22. Revenue Collection Act of 2013
23. Prime Minister and President's Questions Act
24. Voting Reform Act

Fixed.

[Britanno]

Well I'm for The National Executive and Legislative Powers Act, if anyone wants to debate anything...

#awkward

[Eliasonia]

Fourthed.

Fifthed.

[Maklohi Vai]

Er... are we supposed to debate the Executive Reform Act now?

I suppose we could, as PM voting is suspended.

You can debate it but not move to voting.

[The Azulia]

I don't understand. The first "Act" is in fact two different acts, that although touch the same subject, have very different ideas. Should we vote one or the other? Should we discuss them at the same time?

I'm for the proposal of The Treorai and Great Nepal.

[Geilinor]

If the admin vote remains at 3-3 by the end of the designated period, then the vote will stand and Geilinor will not be elected.

We understand the warning of Nihil may not sit well with people, but the warning stands unless there is an unanimous admin decision to overturn it.

Which admins have not voted? Are there any undecided active admins? I know that 2 of them are inactive.

[Yanalia]

I don't understand. The first "Act" is in fact two different acts, that although touch the same subject, have very different ideas. Should we vote one or the other? Should we discuss them at the same time?

I'm for the proposal of The Treorai and Great Nepal.

It's an omnibus. We'll discuss and vote for them at the same time. In this case, you should only vote aye for one.

[Geilinor]

I don't understand. The first "Act" is in fact two different acts, that although touch the same subject, have very different ideas. Should we vote one or the other? Should we discuss them at the same time?

I'm for the proposal of The Treorai and Great Nepal.

It's an omnibus, so we vote on both at the same time. It speeds up the voting process. Otherwise, we'd have 40 or more acts.

[The Azulia]

This has enough sponsors to be added to the queue (wherever the queue is exactly)

Prime Minister and President's Questions Act

Co-Sponsors: Geilinor, Great Nepal, Arglorand, Ainin, Eliasonia, Fulfflood

UNDERSTANDING that many senators may have questions they would like to ask their Prime Minister or President.

REALISING the need that all senators should have the right to question the Prime Minister or President regarding anything government related.

HEREBY;

1. Orders that once a fortnight two separated threads will be created, one for Prime Minister's Questions and one for President's Questions.

2. Orders that the Prime Minister and President must respond to every question asked.

3. Allows the Prime Minister or President to reply with “No Comment” if they do not wish to answer a question.

Can we annex one Bill to another? The Prime Minister and President's Questions Act co-sponsored by Geilinor, Great Nepal, Arglorand, Ainin, Eliasonia and Fulfflood is complementary to the National Executive and Legislative Powers Act of The Treorai and Great Nepal. Both bills are supported (I believe) by the Coalition, and it would be faster and more eficient if we could vote them together.

EDIT: So my proposal is to add the Prime Minister and President's Questions Act to the omnibus, and vote it together with the National Executive and Legislative Powers Act. That bill depends on the NELPA. If the Executive Council Formation Act is approved, the PMPQA can't be accepted.

[Maklohi Vai]

If the admin vote remains at 3-3 by the end of the designated period, then the vote will stand and Geilinor will not be elected.

We understand the warning of Nihil may not sit well with people, but the warning stands unless there is an unanimous admin decision to overturn it.

Which admins have not voted? Are there any undecided active admins? I know that 2 of them are inactive.

Aeken and Denecaep are both considered too inactive to vote, so that's why we're taking it out of 7. Quirina is relatively inactive but considered active enough to vote. We don't know if that's going to happen, though.

Regardless, there are 6 very active admins, and they're split 3-3, so even if we restricted it to them then there would be no solid decision.

[Yanalia]

I propose that the ECA be amended to give each council member an area of government, with each appointing ministers for his/her area, to compromise between having ministries and division of powers.

[Free South Califas]

I'm a current sponsor and I'm Ok with that.

[NSG Senate Administrators]

The 24 hour deadline has passed since the admin decision was made to suspend the vote. Neither side got 4 votes, and so, as stated in that post, the vote for Prime Minister is hereby ended with the following results:

Confirmation Vote for John Geil as Prime Minister of the Aurentine Commonwealth
Voting suspended

For: 65
Against: 71
Abstain: 2

The vote of confirmation fails, and John Geil is not confirmed as PM.

[Mishmahig]

The 24 hour deadline has passed since the admin decision was made to suspend the vote. Neither side got 4 votes, and so, as stated in that post, the vote for Prime Minister is hereby ended with the following results:

Confirmation Vote for John Geil as Prime Minister of the Aurentine Commonwealth
Voting suspended

For: 65
Against: 71
Abstain: 2

The vote of confirmation fails, and John Geil is not confirmed as PM.

At last, we've come to a conclusion.

I assume the Senate will resume the daily business of the Chamber, i.e, the queue?

[NSG Senate Administrators]

The 24 hour deadline has passed since the admin decision was made to suspend the vote. Neither side got 4 votes, and so, as stated in that post, the vote for Prime Minister is hereby ended with the following results:

Confirmation Vote for John Geil as Prime Minister of the Aurentine Commonwealth
Voting suspended

For: 65
Against: 71
Abstain: 2

The vote of confirmation fails, and John Geil is not confirmed as PM.

At last, we've come to a conclusion.

I assume the Senate will resume the daily business of the Chamber, i.e, the queue?

Yes, until Wolfmanne appoints another PM.

[Beta Test]

Well, that's a shame.

[Yanalia]

All right, so we've got those two executive bills to discuss. Who supports the amendment I proposed to the ECA?

[The Treorai]

The 24 hour deadline has passed since the admin decision was made to suspend the vote. Neither side got 4 votes, and so, as stated in that post, the vote for Prime Minister is hereby ended with the following results:

Confirmation Vote for John Geil as Prime Minister of the Aurentine Commonwealth
Voting suspended

For: 65
Against: 71
Abstain: 2

The vote of confirmation fails, and John Geil is not confirmed as PM.

Bloody reactionary hogwash.

[Mishmahig]

The 24 hour deadline has passed since the admin decision was made to suspend the vote. Neither side got 4 votes, and so, as stated in that post, the vote for Prime Minister is hereby ended with the following results:

Confirmation Vote for John Geil as Prime Minister of the Aurentine Commonwealth
Voting suspended

For: 65
Against: 71
Abstain: 2

The vote of confirmation fails, and John Geil is not confirmed as PM.

Bloody reactionary hogwash.

Senator, please, stop.

A conclusion has been reached. Let us move on.

All right, so we've got those two executive bills to discuss. Who supports the amendment I proposed to the ECA?

Could you repost them, please? I fear I missed the amendment in all the fuss over the PM appointment.

[Yanalia]

I propose that the ECA be amended to give each council member an area of government, with each appointing ministers for his/her area, to compromise between having ministries and division of powers.