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What do you believe in?

Darwinian Evolution
477
67%
Young Earth Creationism
39
6%
Old Earth Creationism
25
4%
Intelligent Design
48
7%
Theistic Evolution
88
12%
Other
30
4%
 
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Divair wrote:Creationists are, yes.

*sigh* You can lead a person to scientific literacy and knowledge, but you can't force them to drink.

If only we could drown them with science.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Gallup wrote:
Divair wrote:Are you illiterate like Christian Democrats?

How am I illiterate?

What part of citation needed don't you understand?
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Gallup wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
[citation needed]

They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

They promote following the values with the motivation of eternal salvation in heaven. The reason atheists do good... is because it's right. :o
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Postby Disserbia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Gallup wrote:What about all the good religion has done?

All of the good could've been done without the cost of religion.

Source.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Gallup wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
[citation needed]

They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

And we can have ALL of that without the cost of religious fanaticism and faith.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're just butthurt that you can't refute my logic.

Lol

Typical liberal. Can't refute his comment so you joke around.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Divair wrote:
Gallup wrote:Ann Coulter is not a bitch.

Says you.

If it looks like shit, smells like shit and is properly identified by various independent sources as shit, you do not need to taste it in order to be sure that it is shit. Gallup, however, would probably produce a spoon in order to make absolutely sure that it is indeed shit.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Divair wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:*sigh* You can lead a person to scientific literacy and knowledge, but you can't force them to drink.

If only we could drown them with science.

Which reminds me. Div, apparently you're being reported because that post full of links is "a stupid comment" in moderation.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Ok so you don't know what evolution is, got it.
Seriously I have yet to meet ONE PERSON who disagrees with evolution and actually knows what it is.

Uh, yeah I do. The scientific community basically ripped that shit off from pokemon as an alternative to God.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Gallup wrote:
New Panti wrote:[source required]

They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=224252
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Postby Gallup » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Gallup wrote:What about all the good religion has done?

All of the good could've been done without the cost of religion.

[citation needed]
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:All of the good could've been done without the cost of religion.

Source.

Humanitarianism.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Gallup wrote:
New Panti wrote:[source required]

They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

All of those can result from secular efforts.

Also, that's not a source.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Divair wrote:If only we could drown them with science.

Which reminds me. Div, apparently you're being reported because that post full of links is "a stupid comment" in moderation.

Butthurt creationists are gonna whine.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Gallup wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
[citation needed]

They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

They've also killed countless people, caused countless wars, stifled the lives of women, gays, many ethnic minorities, stifled science, etc. I'll take a world without it, there are perfectly good secular charities that would no doubt expand to fill the gap.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Which reminds me. Div, apparently you're being reported because that post full of links is "a stupid comment" in moderation.

Butthurt creationists are gonna whine.

I'm amused. How is a whole bunch of sources a "stupid comment"?
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Gallup wrote:
Genivaria wrote:All of the good could've been done without the cost of religion.

[citation needed]

"Charity" and "atheism" aren't mutually exclusive.
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Postby Gallup » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Gallup wrote:They promote good values, are the cause of much charity, act as a source of hope and have greatly advanced art.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=224252

You exaggerated the inquisition. Only about 3,000 died.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Divair wrote:No :(

Damn it, is it because people are too lazy to read links?

I'm not sure if its too lazy to read the links or too intellectually dishonest to,,,
Or both...
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Divair wrote:Butthurt creationists are gonna whine.

I'm amused. How is a whole bunch of sources a "stupid comment"?

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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Gallup wrote:How am I illiterate?

What part of citation needed don't you understand?

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Postby Gallup » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Source.

Humanitarianism.

To quote Div: Are you illiterate?
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Gallup wrote:[citation needed]

"Charity" and "atheism" aren't mutually exclusive.

And thank heavens too. Otherwise when I donated my excess $500+ dining dollars to the local food bank it wouldn't have meant anything.
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Gallup wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:viewtopic.php?f=20&t=224252

You exaggerated the inquisition. Only about 3,000 died.

Only?
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