50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[The New California Republic]

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen.

You don't go to liveleak much, huh?

I do actually. But in terms of the sustained violence and the callous indifference of it, it is far worse.

[Skylus]

Alright, I finally read through all 50+ pages.
Honestly, I'm already desensitized to this shit. I think all of us are, because this has happened so much. And it WILL happen again.
Not if, not where, but when.

Now read all 74 pages of his manifesto.

Take a shot each time "European" is mentioned.

......74 pages?????

Not old enough to drink yet man, only 20.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen. The little shit needs to be nailed to the wall for what he has done. It is someone committing mass murder like this that makes me question my opposition to the death penalty for such acts.

I'm surprised it is still up, as I can't find that video.

[Caracasus]

Alright, I finally read through all 50+ pages.
Honestly, I'm already desensitized to this shit. I think all of us are, because this has happened so much. And it WILL happen again.
Not if, not where, but when.

Now read all 74 pages of his manifesto.

Take a shot each time "European" is mentioned.

No ta. From what I have read of it, it's mostly nonsensical bullshit. There's no new ideas there and I'll leave it up to the professionals to see if there's actually any insight to be gained from it in terms of stopping this sort of shit from happening again. I think I'd rather read something a bit more cheerful.

[Tareldar]

Now read all 74 pages of his manifesto.

Take a shot each time "European" is mentioned.

......74 pages?????

Not old enough to drink yet man, only 20.

After this, you're never too young for a drink.

My hands are still shaking just reading the incoming news.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Now read all 74 pages of his manifesto.

Take a shot each time "European" is mentioned.

No ta. From what I have read of it, it's mostly nonsensical bullshit. There's no new ideas there and I'll leave it up to the professionals to see if there's actually any insight to be gained from it in terms of stopping this sort of shit from happening again. I think I'd rather read something a bit more cheerful.

Remember kids, Spyro the Dragon causes terrorism and flossing is far-right enabling!

...This manifesto is a total trainwreck.

[Skylus]

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen. The little shit needs to be nailed to the wall for what he has done. It is someone committing mass murder like this that makes me question my opposition to the death penalty for such acts.

I'm surprised it is still up, as I can't find that video.

From what I've read about it alone, you don't want to, anyway, the NZ police are taking all incidents of the video down. Or trying to get as many as they can.
Source is earlier in this thread.

[Tareldar]

No ta. From what I have read of it, it's mostly nonsensical bullshit. There's no new ideas there and I'll leave it up to the professionals to see if there's actually any insight to be gained from it in terms of stopping this sort of shit from happening again. I think I'd rather read something a bit more cheerful.

Remember kids, Spyro the Dragon causes terrorism and flossing is far-right enabling!

...This manifesto is a total trainwreck.

I think that part was sarcasm at the idea video games cause violence.

[Audioslavia]

THE KILLER STREAMED IT you thickheaded pig shit.

*** Warning: Flaming ***

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm surprised it is still up, as I can't find that video.

From what I've read about it alone, you don't want to, anyway, the NZ police are taking all incidents of the video down. Or trying to get as many as they can.
Source is earlier in this thread.

If it is a link to liveleak, then it won't work, as the site appears to now be offline.

[Amuaplye]

Alright, I finally read through all 50+ pages.
Honestly, I'm already desensitized to this shit. I think all of us are, because this has happened so much. And it WILL happen again.
Not if, not where, but when.

Now read all 74 pages of his manifesto.

Take a shot each time "European" is mentioned.

And take a shot each time a meme is also mentioned.

[United States of Devonta]

From the NPR twitter page,

"A man who describes himself as a 28-year-old Australian has claimed responsibility, and said in a statement that he'd been planning the attack for two years."

Two years of planning went into this attack.

[Valentine Z]

Liveleak is offline... Error 503.

Good, because my humanity and sanity will remain intact, then. I will not let my curiosity take over.

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Ok, I think we should probably go back to the actual news report and the topic... My condolences to those 49 people that has died needlessly for someone's crazed and barbaric bloodlust. With that said, I can only guess and wish the families and people around them the best of luck through these times. I hope that the number won't go higher than this.

For those in Christchurch, please do stay safe, and be careful out there!

[The New California Republic]

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen. The little shit needs to be nailed to the wall for what he has done. It is someone committing mass murder like this that makes me question my opposition to the death penalty for such acts.

I'm surprised it is still up, as I can't find that video.

From what I've read about it alone, you don't want to, anyway, the NZ police are taking all incidents of the video down. Or trying to get as many as they can.
Source is earlier in this thread.

Yeah don't watch it.

[Ostroeuropa]

Remember kids, Spyro the Dragon causes terrorism and flossing is far-right enabling!

...This manifesto is a total trainwreck.

I think that part was sarcasm at the idea video games cause violence.

The only part of the manifesto worth noting is that he explicitly said he believes the status quo is fucked, entrenched, and cannot be changed except through violence.

He explicitly says he thinks it's a good idea to empower your violent ideological opponents because violent change is the only thing that will save us, and baiting eachother into escalating violence will mean the status quo changes even if your side loses.

He says chaos, division, and violence are his goal.

He THEN plays right into a list of media stereotypes in a bid to get everyone claiming he belongs to the other side and get the media to scream that vast swathes of the population are enabling violent terrorists, from environmentalists to white nationalists, socialists to trump supporters, PRC style communists to capitalists, gamers to drug users, and so on.

Everything in the manifesto that explains why he did what he did needs to be viewed in the context of his explicit goal and motivation that he elaborates on BEFORE he lists a bunch of things that """Influenced""" him, and when you notice that, you'll notice his list of influences are basically a list of people the media love to demonize and hate.

He is doing it to bait the media into attacking the public, and the public into attacking eachother, and to ratchet up tensions and violence so that the media, the politicians, all the establishment, get toppled in the ensuing chaos.

He wants the public to feel attacked by the media and to turn on them. He wants the public to feel attacked by eachother and turn on eachother. The entire manifesto is a roarschach test for "Your political enemies did this." with special focus on the groups the media and status quo hate already, in a bid to radicalize people against the status quo and turn them violent.

[Licana]

From the NPR twitter page,

"A man who describes himself as a 28-year-old Australian has claimed responsibility, and said in a statement that he'd been planning the attack for two years."

Two years of planning went into this attack.

Good job NPR, you found out less information than what was already readily given in his manifesto.

For how long did you plan this attack?
I begun planning an attack roughly two years in advance and an attack at the location in Christchurch three months in advance.

[Audioslavia]

R.I.P Josh Kennedy
R.I.P George Wilkinson
R.I.P Harry Rice

Victims of a Islamofascist vampire.

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen. The little shit needs to be nailed to the wall for what he has done. It is someone committing mass murder like this that makes me question my opposition to the death penalty for such acts.

Fake Video.

Hitler wanted Europe to Islamic that's why he killed Jews ,Christian and Atheists.

*** Banned for a week ***

3/10 must try harder.

[United States of Devonta]

Last I checked, socialists wearing berets and driving their brother’s old Hyundai weren’t shooting up mosques because Breitbart told them Islam was the reason their life sucked.

Antifa was beating up people tho.

I don't like Antifa but punching people in the face and actually committing mass-killings is two different things.

[Vassenor]

...Hang on. Why is everyone so desperate to watch this guy livestreaming mass murder?

[The South Falls]

Antifa was beating up people tho.

I don't like Antifa but punching people in the face and actually committing mass-killings is two different things.

That is true. Although the night in jail may help.

[Lost Memories]

Having just watched the video it is probably the worst I've seen. The little shit needs to be nailed to the wall for what he has done. It is someone committing mass murder like this that makes me question my opposition to the death penalty for such acts.

I'm surprised it is still up, as I can't find that video.

The video is being uploaded by some, and taken down by some others, in a continuous cycle.
Apparently the NZ state asked to take it down worldwide, and many sites are complying, on reddit people are getting suspended for just sharing links of it.

Your best bet in finding it is sorting by upload time. The most complete version i've seen was 16 minutes long.
Took me some time to find when i looked, as the effort in removing that video is pretty widespread.

[Digital Planets]

The shitty part is that the video on Liveleak isn't even the full video.

[Tareldar]

From the NPR twitter page,

"A man who describes himself as a 28-year-old Australian has claimed responsibility, and said in a statement that he'd been planning the attack for two years."

Two years of planning went into this attack.

Here's some of his own explanation for his attack:

Did you carry out the attack for fame?
No, carrying out an attack for fame would be laughable.After all who can remember the name of the attackers in the September 11 attack in New
York?How about the attack on the pentagon? The attackers in the plane that crashed into the field on the same day?
I will be forgotten quickly.
Which I do not mind. After all I am a private and mostly introverted person. But the aftershock from my actions will ripple for years to come, driving political and social discourse, creating the atmosphere or fear and change that is required.

Why did you target those people?
They were an obvious,visible and large group of invaders, from a culture with higher fertility rates, higher social trust and strong, robust traditions that seek to occupy my peoples lands and ethnically replace my own people.

For how long did you plan this attack?
I begun planning an attack roughly two years in advance and an attack at the location in Christchurch three months in advance.

Why did you choose this time to attack?
The best time to attack was yesterday, the next best time is today. The attack was planned to allow enough time to train, form a plan, settle my affairs, write down my views, then enact the attack.

Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state,
social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere else in the West.
Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration.

Was there any reason you attacked that(those) mosque(s) in
particular?
Originally the mosque in Dunedin was the main target,particularly after watching the video on their facebook page named “Otago muslim
association”
https://www.facebook.com/Otago-Muslim-A ... 229358786/
The video war entitled “Very interesting video. Only for Muslims. Please do not redistribute” that proved their knowledge of their actions, and their guilt.
https://www.facebook.com/20677822935878 ... 238207116/
But after visiting the mosques in Christchurch and Linwood and seeing the desecration of the church that had been converted to a mosque in
Ashburton, my plans changed. The Christchurch and Linwood mosques had far more invaders, in a more
prominent and optically foreign building, with less students,more adults and a prior history of extremism.
Attacking these mosques also allowed for an extra planned attack on the mosque in Ashburton, whilst I am unsure as of this time of writing
whether I will reach that target, it was a bonus objective.

Do you consider it a terrorist attack?
By the definition, then yes. It is a terrorist attack. But I believe it is a partisan action against an occupying force.

Do you feel any remorse for the attack?
No, I only wish I could have killed more invaders, and more traitors as well.

[Skylus]

The mods are out in force today.

It's good that this Liveleak site is down. I don't even know what Liveleak is.

[Amuaplye]

...Hang on. Why is everyone so desperate to watch this guy livestreaming mass murder?

Morbid curiosity. CNN footage of 9/11 has 3.4 million views, for instance.