NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[The Nihilistic view]

As the SFPPA does not repeal the genocide act then ex-post facto on genocide is still legal and there is no issue here or reason to vote nay on that basis.

[Resora]

Nay on all three.

[The Nihilistic view]

Security From Past Punishment Bill - Yay
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act - NayResora has some very valid concerns on this bill in the CP HQ, I would both advise senators to have a look and for the senator himself to Post on the issue here in the chamber itself.
Youth Politics Act - Yay

[Resora]

Very well. As requested, these are my concerns with the Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act, as I wrote in the CP HQ.

The Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act, while fairly inert on the surface, does have potential for abuse. The commission's members are political appointees by the Minister of the Interior, and the commission has unlimited power to establish the standards and to appoint inspectors to enforce those standards, and to shut down anybody that doesn't comply with those standards, which means they could literally write whatever they want and send their own people to selectively persecute anybody that has something that they can define as an "aquarium".

The power of the commission is tempered by the fact that an overtly corrupt commission reflects poorly on the Minister of the Interior, an elected politician with political ties to her/his coalition and party and constituency, but still, there's a lot of room for corrupt food inspector garbage.

[Maklohi Vai]

Resora, you've convinced me.

Please change my vote on the ZASA from Aye to Abstain.

[Libertechie]

- Security from Past Punishment Act - AYE
- Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act - NAY
- Youth Politics Act - AYE

[Firefox Island]

Security from Past Punishment Act: NO
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act: Abstain
Youth Politics Act: AYE

I'd like to change my vote on ZASA to NO.

Pretend this is Saint James...

[The Saint James Islands]

Just confirming the above. (>_<)

[People Who Say Ni]

Changing my vote from all AYE to:

- Security from Past Punishment Act - NAY
- Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act - ABSTAIN
- Youth Politics Act - AYE

[Flaming Soul Forces]

Security from Past Punishment Act - AYE
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act - AYE
Youth Politics Act - AYE

[Lamaredia]

Official Vote Count

- Security from Past Punishment Act

AYE: 13
NAY: 10
ABSTAIN: 4

- Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act

AYE: 13
NAY: 10
ABSTAIN: 4

- Youth Politics Act

AYE: 19
NAY: 4
ABSTAIN: 4

It's already been two days?

What Nihil said. I believe it makes the job easier TBH, and I know that I'm lazy

Anyways, I change my vote on ZASA from AYE to NAY.

[Sahrani DR]

I would like to change my Aye on the Security from Past Punishment Act to a Nay.
I would like to change my Abstain on the Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act to a Nay.

[Flaming Soul Forces]

I change my vote on SPPA from Aye to Nay

[Deputy Director of the NIB]

Boris opened his briefcase with a embellished logo of the treasury on.

"Now myself and the Minister of Finance Branko, were up lite last night completing this, the budget. It is virtually the same as last year with a couple of minor increases and a bit of fund switching.

Debt obligations £30bn -debt total stands at £331.5bn currently.
Defence - £19bn
Foreign Affairs - £0.5bn
International Development - £0.2bn
Culture and Sports - £1.5bn
Business Safety - £0.2bn
Interior - £12bn

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Labour - £60bn
Justice - £5bn
Finance and Treasury - £0.5bn
Education - £60bn
Research - £12bn
Environment - £1.5bn
Customs - £1.5bn
Transportation - £16bn
Telecommunications - £0.4bn
Energy - £0.7bn
Health - £58bn
Office of the Vice-President - £Loose change.£2mil
Offices of state- £10 mil.

Total :£279.012bn
Revenue: £293.659bn

That gives us £14.678bn to as last term be our rainy day fund. Also there is £15bn from the Energy budget from two terms ago as for some reason the PC thought the a privatised energy industry need a ministry over looking it with £16bn. We are still deciding what to do with the rest of the under spend from that budget.

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Boris sit's down.

[Costa Fierro]

Both the SFPPA and the ZASA are nay. The YPA is an aye.

[The Nihilistic view]

Submitting this to business and finance. I think I got everyone's complete names but let me know If I forgot any.

Fair Taxation Act

Category: Business and Finance | Urgency: Paramount |

Author: His Royal Highness The King of Pesolonia,The Prince , Charles, Philip , Arthur , George ,Prince of Wales ,Earl of Chester , Duke of Cornwall , Duke of Rothesay ,Earl of Carrick , Baron of Renfrew ,Lord of the Isles ,Prince and Great Steward of Scotland ,Royal Knight Companion of the most noble order of the Garter , Royal Knight Companion of the most Ancient and most noble order of the Thistle ,Knight Grand Cross of the most honourable order of the Bath ,Member of the order of Merit ,Knight of the order of Australia , Companion of the Queens service order, Member of Her Majastys Most Honourable Privy Councillors , Aide de Camp to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth R, Doctor of medicine, sociology, classics and eugenics, Chief inspector, Detective constable, President Pro-Tempore of the Senate, Major General the Field Marshal Lord Alexander Boris De Pheffel William Johnson ESQ (TNV-ALM| Sponsors: Jonathon Smith (Belmaria-LP), Jennifer Broflovski Coren (Corenea-RP), Jän Stuaart (TLT-LP), Edward von Engels ( Zurkerx-LP), Senator Dark Lord Emperor of Everything that Breathes and Madam Doctor Professor President of the Independent Republic of Yeb Eileen Pope-Langley (The Saint James Islands/ALM), His Majesty, Imperator of Terra, Emperor of All that Exists, Saviour of Nations, God personified, President of the United States, Consul of Rome, Doge of Venice, Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran, His Royal Majesty the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Holy Crusader, Esquire, General of the Army, Eternal President of the Democratic People's Republic, Dear Leader, Great Leader, the Great Successor, the Almighty, the Invulnerable, the Honorable, the Architect of the Universe, defender of Britannia, Father of the Aurentine Commonwealth, The Bringer of Judgement, The All-Glorious, the majestic James Augustus Benedict Cornelius David Earl Farley Gabriel Herbert Ian Jackson Kyle Lucas Maximillian Nathan Owen Peter Quentin Remus Sebastian Trevor Ulysses Vincent William Xavier Yehuda Zacharias Lu ( Regnum Dominae/ALM)

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Due to the regressive nature of Value Added Tax (VAT) and the fact that the products listed below make up a large part of annual household expenditure, Value Added Tax on these products represents a severe social ill. The benefit of removing this 10% tax to ordinary hard working families could amount to as much as £400 annually. Hard pressed small businesses, the lifeblood of our nation, also stand to gain. Therefore this bill mandates that the following products be re-classified as essential goods, as opposed to their current status as secondary goods in the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal.

Hereby enact's the following clauses that make up the Fair Tax act into Aurentine law.

Article 1-1

The following goods and services listed in Article 1-2 and 1-3 are to be re-classified as Essential goods and services. The 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal shall also be amended by repealing the following text in italics from said act: all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving and Gas and oil is defined as products obtainable at a standard gas station (petrol, diesel, etc.), natural gas, heating oil and cooking oil. in the article entitled Secondary Goods and Services.

Article 1-2

The following goods are to be classified as essential Goods by law, and are VAT exempt;

• Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)
• Butane
• Petrol - all forms, also known as Gasoline
• Jet fuel
• Kerosene
• Fuel oil
• Diesel fuel
• Methane
• Electricity
• Ethane
• Propane
• Pentane
• Cooking oils
• Batteries - any electrochemical cell that stores chemical energy and converts the stored energy into electrical energy. This includes both primary and secondary forms.
• Petroleum-This umbrella term includes all types of unprocessed crude oil and petroleum products that are made up of refined crude oil
• Natural Gas
• Shale Gas
• Town Gas
• Coal and all refined coal products such as refined coal, coke, and liquefied coal.
• Wood sold as a combustible fuel product, including charcoal.
• Liquid Hydrogen
• Uranium
• Plutonium
• Lithium

Article 1-3

Any services related to providing the goods above in article 1-2 to either households, businesses or both are to be classified as essential services. Examples include but are not limited to: Piping gas to the home and or commercial property, porting electricity to the home and/or commercial property, the extraction/refinement/production of the above goods, and the importing or exporting of the goods listed in Article 1-2.

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[box][align=center][size=150]Fair Taxation Act[/size]

[b]Category:[/b] Business and Finance | [b]Urgency:[/b] Paramount | [b]Author:[/b] [spoiler= sponsors etc][b]Author:[/b] His Royal Highness The King of Pesolonia,The Prince , Charles, Philip , Arthur , George ,Prince of Wales ,Earl of Chester , Duke of Cornwall , Duke of Rothesay ,Earl of Carrick , Baron of Renfrew ,Lord of the Isles ,Prince and Great Steward of Scotland ,Royal Knight Companion of the most noble order of the Garter , Royal Knight Companion of the most Ancient and most noble order of the Thistle ,Knight Grand Cross of the most honourable order of the Bath ,Member of the order of Merit ,Knight of the order of Australia , Companion of the Queens service order, Member of Her Majastys Most Honourable Privy Councillors , Aide de Camp to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth R, Doctor of medicine, sociology, classics and eugenics, Chief inspector, Detective constable, President Pro-Tempore of the Senate, Major General the Field Marshal Lord Alexander Boris De Pheffel William Johnson ESQ (TNV-ALM| [b]Sponsors:[/b] Jonathon Smith (Belmaria-LP), Jennifer Broflovski Coren (Corenea-RP), Jän Stuaart (TLT-LP), Edward von Engels ( Zurkerx-LP), Senator Dark Lord Emperor of Everything that Breathes and Madam Doctor Professor President of the Independent Republic of Yeb Eileen Pope-Langley  (The Saint James Islands/ALM), His Majesty, Imperator of Terra, Emperor of All that Exists, Saviour of Nations, God personified, President of the United States, Consul of Rome, Doge of Venice, Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran, His Royal Majesty the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Holy Crusader, Esquire, General of the Army, Eternal President of the Democratic People's Republic, Dear Leader, Great Leader, the Great Successor, the Almighty, the Invulnerable, the Honorable, the Architect of the Universe, defender of Britannia, Father of the Aurentine Commonwealth, The Bringer of Judgement, The All-Glorious, the majestic James Augustus Benedict Cornelius David Earl Farley Gabriel Herbert Ian Jackson Kyle Lucas Maximillian Nathan Owen Peter Quentin Remus Sebastian Trevor Ulysses Vincent William Xavier Yehuda Zacharias Lu ( Regnum Dominae/ALM)[/align][/spoiler][hr][/hr]

Due to the regressive nature of Value Added Tax (VAT) and the fact that the products listed below make up a large part of annual household expenditure, Value Added Tax on these products represents a severe social ill.  The benefit of removing this 10% tax to ordinary hard working families could amount to as much as £400 annually. Hard pressed small businesses, the lifeblood of our nation, also stand to gain. Therefore this bill mandates that the following products be re-classified as essential goods, as opposed to their current status as secondary goods in the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal.

[b]Hereby enacts[/b] the following clauses that make up the Fair Tax act into Aurentine law.

[b][u]Article 1-1[/u][/b]

The following goods and services listed in Article 1-2 and 1-3 are to be re-classified as Essential goods and services. The 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal shall also be amended to repeal the following text in italics from said act:[i] all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving[/i] and [i]Gas and oil is defined as products obtainable at a standard gas station (petrol, diesel, etc.), natural gas, heating oil and cooking oil.[/i] in the article entitled Secondary Goods and Services.

[b][u]Article 1-2[/u][/b]

The following goods are to be classified as essential Goods by law, and are VAT exempt;

[list]
[*]Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)
[*]Butane
[*]Petrol - all forms, also known as Gasoline
[*]Jet fuel
[*]Kerosene
[*]Fuel oil
[*]Diesel fuel
[*]Methane
[*]Electricity
[*]Ethane
[*]Propane
[*]Pentane
[*]Cooking oils
[*]Batteries - any electrochemical cell that stores chemical energy and converts the stored energy into electrical energy. This includes both primary and secondary forms.
[*]Petroleum-This umbrella term includes all types of unprocessed crude oil and petroleum products that are made up of refined crude oil
[*]Natural Gas
[*]Shale Gas
[*]Town Gas
[*]Coal and all refined coal products such as refined coal, coke, and liquefied coal.
[*]Wood sold as a combustible fuel product, including charcoal.
[*]Liquid Hydrogen
[*]Uranium
[*]Plutonium
[*]Lithium[/list]

[b][u]Article 1-3[/u][/b]
 
Any services related to providing the goods above in article 1-2 to either households, businesses or both are to be classified as essential services. Examples include but are not limited to: Piping gas to the home and/or commercial property, porting electricity to the home and/or commercial property, the extraction/refinement/production of the above goods, and the importing or exporting of the goods listed in Article 1-2.[/box]

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[Nevanmaa]

Security From Past Punishment Bill: Against
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act: Against
Youth Politics Act: Against

[The Liberated Territories]

Add "Silva" as my middle name.

Jan Silva Stuaart.

[Lamaredia]

Security From Past Punishment Bill: Against
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act: Against
Youth Politics Act: Against

The vote ended about 10 hours ago. I can't do the vote count, because I'm currently at a skiresort with no computer. I'll be back on saturday.

[The Nihilistic view]

I will finish it up in a sec.

[The Nihilistic view]

Official Vote Count

- Security from Past Punishment Actfails

AYE: 14/color]
[color=#FF0000]NAY: 17
ABSTAIN: 5

- Zoo and Aquarium Standards Actfails

AYE: 13
NAY: 18
ABSTAIN: 5

- Youth Politics Actpasses

AYE: 26
NAY: 6
ABSTAIN: 4

I will add any bills and then start the debate on the next category.

[Mkuki]

I vote AYE on the Security From Past Punishment Bill.
I vote AYE on the Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act.
I vote AYE on the Youth Politics Act.

~ Senator Antoine Lumière (NDP)

Security From Past Punishment Bill: Against
Zoo and Aquarium Standards Act: Against
Youth Politics Act: Against

The vote ended about 10 hours ago. I can't do the vote count, because I'm currently at a skiresort with no computer. I'll be back on saturday.

Oops.

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

Business & Finance
To deal with issues pertinent to the Work, Commerce, and Treasury ministries

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Section A:
- Bank Holidays and Annual Leave Act
- First Amendment to the Financial Act of 2013
- Tariff Regulation Act
- Essential Service Strike Restriction Act
-Government Donations Act
-Fair Taxation Act

The debate on this category shall begin immediately and last a minimum of 48 hours.

Bills added and zep in the end yours is in Law, I could not really argue it to go in another. I apologise on behalf of my secretary for it being missed.

[Libertechie]

"Mr. Speaker, I, Senator Andie Calvin, rise on behalf of my constituency, Sänt-Aügustë, and the Libertarian Party of Aurentina, to speak in pride and in support for two of the bills at vote today, both for the Tariff Regulation Act, and the Fair Taxation Act.

Mr. Speaker, today we can see that simply this is the argument of whether regulation is effective, or not, in the Aurentine economy. Whether it is better for the government to be taxing purchases on essential goods, and spend the money at government level, or simply keep them tax-free, and let people do as they wish with their money. Whether it is better for the government to act as the protector of local business, or whether it should let people buy what they want at the price the market steps. It is simply today, intervention vs non-intervention, and frankly, statism vs liberty.

Mr. Speaker, I am incredibly proud to serve as a Libertarian senator in Aurentina, and liberty is something my views are built on. These acts are brilliant, as they recognize that the government does not serve well for the consumers and people, but instead make their lives harder financially in the process of having more power over the country's finances. I cannot bare to see families that struggle to get by because of high prices, families hit hard by the efforts of their own government. So long I have heard from those who like big government, that the state should function as the protector of the people, but Mr. Speaker, if the government robs the people of their wealth, and thus of their hard earned cash and prosperity also, is it protecting them?

For so long, tariffs and VATs have hurt hard families, and invaded on our civil liberties, by not just taking our wealth off us, but furthermore by limiting our choices, and so forth preventing us from pursuing our self interest. Mr. Speaker, yes, though these bills may pass, tax is still incredibly high, but I do tell the senate a great saying a constituent of mine told me the other day, an Aurentine slogan passed around by the freedom fighters of the country. The slogan states in English 'Justice isn't protectionism, but rather freedom, is compassion." Mr. Speaker, I hereby commend these bills to the senate."

[The Nihilistic view]

"Thank you sir for your speech on some of the bills at hand. Who next seeks the floor to speak?"