NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Kouralia]

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[Wolfmanne]

I would like to make a request; I would like the Judicial Act, upon being introduced to the Chamber and upon it's completion (it's not ready yet), to be given priority over other bills, along with any other bills co-sponsored by the Minister of Justice that is relevant to the establish of a legal or judicial system. Also, instead of the typical 'five approval requirement', I request that there is a veto option for this measure and that there must be a supermajority of 2/3 of approvals over vetoes for this to measure to pass. Thank you.

Without caring for the second part i second this motion

We desperatly need a justice system

I would like to bring this to your attention. We already have it seconded, we need five move to push it higher in the queue. It is essential this bill is voted on.

[Yanalia]

CURRENT QUEUE FOR LEGISLATION

1. LLA
2. Energy and Power Act
3. Governmental Subdivision Act
4. Agricultural Rights Act
5. Governmental Services Act
6. Ministry of Research and Astronomy Reform Act
7. National Culture Act
8. National Financing and Accounting Act
9. Legality and Restrictions Act
10. Senatorial Procedures Act
11. Responsible Government Act
12. Terrorism Investigation Act
13. Membership of the Commonwealth of Nations Act
14. Judicial Act
15. Basic Utilities Privatisation Act
16. Prevention of Corruption Act

[Byzantium Imperial]

Without caring for the second part i second this motion

We desperatly need a justice system

I would like to bring this to your attention. We already have it seconded, we need five move to push it higher in the queue. It is essential this bill is voted on.

Very well (i was in a rush last night, dinner and all).
I third (or still second?) your motion in its entirety

[Great Nepal]

Without caring for the second part i second this motion

We desperatly need a justice system

I would like to bring this to your attention. We already have it seconded, we need five move to push it higher in the queue. It is essential this bill is voted on.

Third and I also move that we omnibus this with Terrorism Investigation Act since we need to have inquest into this bombing incident before evidence is destroyed.

[Yanalia]

Without caring for the second part i second this motion

We desperatly need a justice system

I would like to bring this to your attention. We already have it seconded, we need five move to push it higher in the queue. It is essential this bill is voted on.

Didn't you need 10 to move something up the queue? That's what we did last time. I third, anyway. Or fifth, I suppose.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Wait wouldnt it make sense to omnibus the LLA and the judicial act together?

[Fulflood]

I would like to bring this to your attention. We already have it seconded, we need five move to push it higher in the queue. It is essential this bill is voted on.

Third and I also move that we omnibus this with Terrorism Investigation Act since we need to have inquest into this bombing incident before evidence is destroyed.

Sixth.

[Aurentine Constabularies]

...before evidence is destroyed.

We're not that incompetent.

[Great Nepal]

...before evidence is destroyed.

We're not that incompetent.

Evidence will be in the senate building, in months that it will take for this inquest to be set up, evidence will be damaged and moved.

[Aurentine Constabularies]

We're not that incompetent.

Evidence will be in the senate building, in months that it will take for this inquest to be set up, evidence will be damaged and moved.

An inquest is not an investigation. The police will be searching the building immediately. Well, we would be if we had any legal provision for Scene Of Crime Officers.

EDIT: as it is it'd just be DCs walking around and putting things into evidence bags.

[Mishmahig]

Wait wouldnt it make sense to omnibus the LLA and the judicial act together?

I agree.

[Great Nepal]

Evidence will be in the senate building, in months that it will take for this inquest to be set up, evidence will be damaged and moved.

An inquest is not an investigation. The police will be searching the building immediately. Well, we would be if we had any legal provision for Scene Of Crime Officers.

Well, we didn't.
Plus, in months certain members might have left nation or forgotten about incident or died.

[Aurentine Constabularies]

An inquest is not an investigation. The police will be searching the building immediately. Well, we would be if we had any legal provision for Scene Of Crime Officers.

Well, we didn't.
Plus, in months certain members might have left nation or forgotten about incident or died.

As I said, the police do not need an inquest to investigate murder.

[Yanalia]

I move to omnibus bills 16 and 11.

[Great Nepal]

Well, we didn't.
Plus, in months certain members might have left nation or forgotten about incident or died.

As I said, the police do not need an inquest to investigate murder.

No, but inquest is needed to determine where failings were. It wont pass guilty/innocent verdict but rather will investigate where flaws were and what can be done to prevent it in future.

[New Zepuha]

I move to omnibus bills 16 and 11.

I second that motion.

[Aurentine Constabularies]

As I said, the police do not need an inquest to investigate murder.

No, but inquest is needed to determine where failings were. It wont pass guilty/innocent verdict but rather will investigate where flaws were and what can be done to prevent it in future.

>Bomb went off

>automatically failings in politicians?

I imagine internal inquests will be going on in the Intelligence Services (do we have any?) and the Senate Security (do we have any?), since it's doubtful that the politicians would have any ability to prevent this. But hey, the police will investigate the murders and you can decide who's responsible for fucking up their jobs.

[Great Nepal]

No, but inquest is needed to determine where failings were. It wont pass guilty/innocent verdict but rather will investigate where flaws were and what can be done to prevent it in future.

>Bomb went off

>automatically failings in politicians?

I imagine internal inquests will be going on in the Intelligence Services (do we have any?) and the Senate Security (do we have any?), since it's doubtful that the politicians would have any ability to prevent this. But hey, the police will investigate the murders and you can decide who's responsible for fucking up their jobs.

I never implied fault lied with politicians, although since ministers give orders, that is where I would look first however Senatorial Inquest does not just have authority within the senate but has universal jurisdiction so it will also determine flaws within the senate security, police etc etc.

[Wolfmanne]

No, but inquest is needed to determine where failings were. It wont pass guilty/innocent verdict but rather will investigate where flaws were and what can be done to prevent it in future.

>Bomb went off

>automatically failings in politicians?

I imagine internal inquests will be going on in the Intelligence Services (do we have any?) and the Senate Security (do we have any?), since it's doubtful that the politicians would have any ability to prevent this. But hey, the police will investigate the murders and you can decide who's responsible for fucking up their jobs.

Gendarmerie handles security of the Senate. I think there was a proposal to establish an Intelligence/Security service.

[Gothmogs]

Third and I also move that we omnibus this with Terrorism Investigation Act since we need to have inquest into this bombing incident before evidence is destroyed.

Sixth.

Seventh

[Wolfmanne]

3 more to go...

[Regnum Dominae]

I move to bring the Justice Act to the top of the queue.

[Wolfmanne]

I move to bring the Justice Act to the top of the queue.

You only need to eighth it.

[Yanalia]

Any takers to omnibus 11 and 16? It's got one second.