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by Auzkhia » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:56 pm
by Fahran » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:23 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Since I've been hearing about it a lot elsewhere, what's the regular's thoughts on the recent wave of "Assigned Male" drama - specifically, that the author was discovered to have a side account where they made furry kink art, with at least one image having been based on a picture of a real child? Excuse my curiosity, she is rather infamous online for various things preceding this specific event.
by Proctopeo » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:27 pm
She's been doxxed multiple times and had to move because of KF doxx.
Trans women are accused of being dangerous predators all the time.
by Kowani » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:37 pm
by Auzkhia » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:42 pm
Kowani wrote:i'm certain this will be a productive discussion
by Kowani » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:46 pm
Auzkhia wrote:Kowani wrote:i'm certain this will be a productive discussion
Indeed, I rather drop this, hell I think I made a huge blunder by commenting.
I've talking about it with my friends and partners and some of this stuff has some sensitive details that I do not wish to disclose on this forum, especially with certain dynamics that some adults do (i.e ageplay and AB/DL) and certain traumas of mine. This discourse legitimately triggered me, and I do mean it, and not how memers use it.
I would just wish to drop it.
by Nakena » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:47 pm
Kowani wrote:Auzkhia wrote:Indeed, I rather drop this, hell I think I made a huge blunder by commenting.
I've talking about it with my friends and partners and some of this stuff has some sensitive details that I do not wish to disclose on this forum, especially with certain dynamics that some adults do (i.e ageplay and AB/DL) and certain traumas of mine. This discourse legitimately triggered me, and I do mean it, and not how memers use it.
I would just wish to drop it.
i don't know what either of those acronyms mean
by Auzkhia » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:47 pm
Kowani wrote:Auzkhia wrote:Indeed, I rather drop this, hell I think I made a huge blunder by commenting.
I've talking about it with my friends and partners and some of this stuff has some sensitive details that I do not wish to disclose on this forum, especially with certain dynamics that some adults do (i.e ageplay and AB/DL) and certain traumas of mine. This discourse legitimately triggered me, and I do mean it, and not how memers use it.
I would just wish to drop it.
i don't know what either of those acronyms mean
by Kowani » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:49 pm
by Auzkhia » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:53 pm
by Kowani » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:01 pm
Auzkhia wrote:Anyway.
What do you think the state of trans rights will be like in the United States now to the near future? We are seeing state republicans trying to restrict or ban trans youth from playing sports or taking puberty blockers. I think trans rights have improved but we're still dealing with backlash and I am concerned that TERFs may get some traction in the US, though hopefully not to UK levels of influence.
by Auzkhia » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:21 pm
by Kowani » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:51 pm
Auzkhia wrote:The "trans women in women's sports" discourse definitely has undertones of "women aren't good at sports" right?
Twitter thread source
by Vassenor » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:06 am
by Auzkhia » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:54 am
Kowani wrote:Auzkhia wrote:The "trans women in women's sports" discourse definitely has undertones of "women aren't good at sports" right?
Twitter thread source
okay so
i dislike using twitter sources for things unless it's a journalist reporting on a current happening, so there's a bias for you
but i have to disagree with some of this interpretation
for example, take this tweet
on the surface, it seems like a decent objection
but when you dig into it, not so much
athletes (in the same sport) tend to have the same body type
and for that matter, the argument transphobes make isn't even about body types
it's about internal body structure
and that one tends to be a lot more uniform across sex
bone thickness, hormone generation, etc
you have a few outliers (michael phelps tends to be the prime example), but those follow consistent trends
now, lets move on to this tweet
notice how Bong focuses on cis women
but if you look at the legislation and where the public furor is, it's not about professional athletes
it's about school sports and girls
(and there's a whole other conversation there about maternal power that i don't want to have right now)
to my knowledge, not once has anyone pointed at Serena Williams and used her as an example of a woman athlete who would be negatively impacted by allowing transwomen in women's sports
little rhetorical tricks like this serve to obscure larger issues
stay on track, people
by Kowani » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:53 am
Auzkhia wrote:Kowani wrote:okay so
i dislike using twitter sources for things unless it's a journalist reporting on a current happening, so there's a bias for you
but i have to disagree with some of this interpretation
for example, take this tweet
on the surface, it seems like a decent objection
but when you dig into it, not so much
athletes (in the same sport) tend to have the same body type
and for that matter, the argument transphobes make isn't even about body types
it's about internal body structure
and that one tends to be a lot more uniform across sex
bone thickness, hormone generation, etc
you have a few outliers (michael phelps tends to be the prime example), but those follow consistent trends
now, lets move on to this tweet
notice how Bong focuses on cis women
but if you look at the legislation and where the public furor is, it's not about professional athletes
it's about school sports and girls
(and there's a whole other conversation there about maternal power that i don't want to have right now)
to my knowledge, not once has anyone pointed at Serena Williams and used her as an example of a woman athlete who would be negatively impacted by allowing transwomen in women's sports
little rhetorical tricks like this serve to obscure larger issues
stay on track, people
It's much easier for state governments to change schools mind you, though that being said, trans people aren't a threat at all, not as adults and certainly not as children.
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by Atheris » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:20 pm
by Atheris » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:21 pm
Kowani wrote:Auzkhia wrote:Indeed, I rather drop this, hell I think I made a huge blunder by commenting.
I've talking about it with my friends and partners and some of this stuff has some sensitive details that I do not wish to disclose on this forum, especially with certain dynamics that some adults do (i.e ageplay and AB/DL) and certain traumas of mine. This discourse legitimately triggered me, and I do mean it, and not how memers use it.
I would just wish to drop it.
i don't know what either of those acronyms mean
by Arcturus Novus » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:26 pm
Atheris wrote:So... what exactly is an "egg"? Is it a trans person that's in denial about being trans? A trans person who isn't ready to come out yet? A trans person who doesn't know they're trans?
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Atheris » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:28 pm
Arcturus Novus wrote:Atheris wrote:So... what exactly is an "egg"? Is it a trans person that's in denial about being trans? A trans person who isn't ready to come out yet? A trans person who doesn't know they're trans?
It's a broad term used for basically all of the above, but yeah, the "correct" definition is "trans people who haven't realized they're trans yet."
by Luminesa » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:04 pm
Kowani wrote:Auzkhia wrote:The "trans women in women's sports" discourse definitely has undertones of "women aren't good at sports" right?
Twitter thread source
okay so
i dislike using twitter sources for things unless it's a journalist reporting on a current happening, so there's a bias for you
but i have to disagree with some of this interpretation
for example, take this tweet
on the surface, it seems like a decent objection
but when you dig into it, not so much
athletes (in the same sport) tend to have the same body type
and for that matter, the argument transphobes make isn't even about body types
it's about internal body structure
and that one tends to be a lot more uniform across sex
bone thickness, hormone generation, etc
you have a few outliers (michael phelps tends to be the prime example), but those follow consistent trends
now, lets move on to this tweet
notice how Bong focuses on cis women
but if you look at the legislation and where the public furor is, it's not about professional athletes
it's about school sports and girls
(and there's a whole other conversation there about maternal power that i don't want to have right now)
to my knowledge, not once has anyone pointed at Serena Williams and used her as an example of a woman athlete who would be negatively impacted by allowing transwomen in women's sports
little rhetorical tricks like this serve to obscure larger issues
stay on track, people
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