NATION

PASSWORD

The 2019-2020 Coronavirus outbreak thread

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:09 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm not actually sure I'd want to live in a world where I couldn't leave the house, there's a reason that's generally only used as a punishment.

well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future

My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97841
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
New York Times Democracy

Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:09 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future

My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.

everything already is closed and will remain so for the next month at minimum

User avatar
The New California Republic
Post Czar
 
Posts: 35507
Founded: Jun 06, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:10 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:A world that is battling a pandemic. Come on man this isn't difficult.

So how are elderly people who don't have a great support network supposed to eat?

There are lots of charities filling the gaps.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:10 am

Chan Island wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:So how are elderly people who don't have a great support network supposed to eat?


We could build a strong social safety net to make sure that they have enough income to feed themselves....

I mean physically getting hold of food.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
Dogmeat
Senator
 
Posts: 4056
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Dogmeat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future

My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.

If only there were a community of people you could interact with via computer. To keep yourself occupied.

...unfortunately, as far as I know, no such thing exists.
Immortal God Dog
Hey boy, know any tricks?
天狗

User avatar
Novus America
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38385
Founded: Jun 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I'm not actually sure I'd want to live in a world where I couldn't leave the house, there's a reason that's generally only used as a punishment.

well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future


I doubt that. In a month or two I expect this to calm down.
It does not justify isolating everyone as most people are not at much risk.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.

everything already is closed and will remain so for the next month at minimum

It's not as bad in Britain rn but it'll get there.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
The New California Republic
Post Czar
 
Posts: 35507
Founded: Jun 06, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
We could build a strong social safety net to make sure that they have enough income to feed themselves....

I mean physically getting hold of food.

Charities around here are making deliveries.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97841
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
New York Times Democracy

Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

Novus America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future


I doubt that. In a month or two I expect this to calm down.
It does not justify isolating everyone as most people are not at much risk.

I agree with you. I hope your right about about a month or so some sense of normalcy resumes
Last edited by San Lumen on Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Chan Island
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7988
Founded: Nov 26, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Autocracy

Postby Chan Island » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:well that is our new reality and will be for the foreseeable future

My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.


Welcome to pandemics I'm afraid. Bad things happen in them. :/

Mental health won't be pretty that's for sure. Feelings of loneliness and isolation are sure to skyrocket in the coming months as everyone quarantines themselves from the contagion.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=513597&p=39401766#p39401766
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

User avatar
Novus America
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38385
Founded: Jun 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:11 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
We could build a strong social safety net to make sure that they have enough income to feed themselves....

I mean physically getting hold of food.


Everywhere delivers nowadays. At least here in the states.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

User avatar
The Black Forrest
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 69264
Founded: Antiquity
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:In what world does the government expect over 70s to stay at home for months? Is isolation and loneliness in that community not enough of a problem as is?


The threat to them is higher. I read an article where it seems the boomers and the millennials are going out.

You are right though; they need support. Some are providing it as I mentioned elsewhere my local store said if you are over 60 and need help call them with a list and they will shop and deliver it.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

User avatar
Zurkerx
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 15275
Founded: Jan 20, 2011
Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 am

NY, NJ and Connecticut agree to restrict restaurants, limit events to fewer than 50 people

Restaurants, Casinos, and Gyms will close after 8 tonight and will remain close until further notice. This doesn't effect my work but it looks like I'll be working from home now.
Accountant, Author, History Buff, Political Junkie, Retired Admin in NSGS & NS Parliament

NFL Picks League
A Golden Civic: Pragmatically Ambitious
"The government you elect is the government you deserve." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Try not to become a person of success, but rather try to become a person of value." ~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
Novus America
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38385
Founded: Jun 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 am

Chan Island wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:My mental health is bad enough as is. I'm obviously not over 70 but even for young people they're still going to end up closing things.


Welcome to pandemics I'm afraid. Bad things happen in them. :/

Mental health won't be pretty that's for sure. Feelings of loneliness and isolation are sure to skyrocket in the coming months as everyone quarantines themselves from the contagion.


But it does not really makes sense for everyone to quarantine themselves is the point.
Just the high risk people.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97841
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
New York Times Democracy

Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:In what world does the government expect over 70s to stay at home for months? Is isolation and loneliness in that community not enough of a problem as is?


The threat to them is higher. I read an article where it seems the boomers and the millennials are going out.

You are right though; they need support. Some are providing it as I mentioned elsewhere my local store said if you are over 60 and need help call them with a list and they will shop and deliver it.

Now even they can't go out as everything is shut down

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:13 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I mean physically getting hold of food.

Charities around here are making deliveries.

I think just going to Tesco is a bit easier, don't you? My grandma loves her trips around the supermarkets, it's a bit of an obsession for her for some reason. She's also a supported living provider, so how is she supposed to buy food for the people with learning difficulties living in her house?
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 138142
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:13 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
We could build a strong social safety net to make sure that they have enough income to feed themselves....

I mean physically getting hold of food.

Delivery, curbside pickup.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

User avatar
Novus America
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38385
Founded: Jun 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Novus America » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:14 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Charities around here are making deliveries.

I think just going to Tesco is a bit easier, don't you? My grandma loves her trips around the supermarkets, it's a bit of an obsession for her for some reason. She's also a supported living provider, so how is she supposed to buy food for the people with learning difficulties living in her house?


Delivery.
___|_|___ _|__*__|_

Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:14 am

Novus America wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
Welcome to pandemics I'm afraid. Bad things happen in them. :/

Mental health won't be pretty that's for sure. Feelings of loneliness and isolation are sure to skyrocket in the coming months as everyone quarantines themselves from the contagion.


But it does not really makes sense for everyone to quarantine themselves is the point.
Just the high risk people.

I'm kind of worried my mental health will struggle to survive it. I only just got into a better place mentally and now the stability has all fallen away.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
San Lumen
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 97841
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
New York Times Democracy

Postby San Lumen » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Novus America wrote:
But it does not really makes sense for everyone to quarantine themselves is the point.
Just the high risk people.

I'm kind of worried my mental health will struggle to survive it. I only just got into a better place mentally and now the stability has all fallen away.

Same with me

User avatar
The New California Republic
Post Czar
 
Posts: 35507
Founded: Jun 06, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Charities around here are making deliveries.

I think just going to Tesco is a bit easier, don't you? My grandma loves her trips around the supermarkets, it's a bit of an obsession for her for some reason. She's also a supported living provider, so how is she supposed to buy food for the people with learning difficulties living in her house?

The alternative is going out and getting it and at her age being at increased risk of death. Charities and companies deliver food, she and her associates won't starve.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

User avatar
Kindjal
Secretary
 
Posts: 35
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kindjal » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 am

https://rmc.bfmtv.com/emission/des-jeunes-de-30-ans-sont-en-reanimation-et-sont-intubes-des-leur-arrivee-un-medecin-alerte-sur-la-dangerosite-du-virus-1875701.html

French doctor about french 30 years old in ICU (in french too sorry).
He says that between 30 years old and elderly people in ICU, doctors will have to make a choice.
I heard that they had the same dilemma in Italy, not having the workforce and material means to save everyone that could otherwise be saved.

User avatar
Greater vakolicci haven
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18668
Founded: May 09, 2014
Anarchy

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 am

Novus America wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I think just going to Tesco is a bit easier, don't you? My grandma loves her trips around the supermarkets, it's a bit of an obsession for her for some reason. She's also a supported living provider, so how is she supposed to buy food for the people with learning difficulties living in her house?


Delivery.

My job then. Computers are the great satan for her.
Join the rejected realms and never fear rejection again
NSG virtual happy hour this Saturday: join us on zoom, what could possibly go wrong?
“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement." - C.J. Redwine
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

User avatar
Lost Memories
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1949
Founded: Nov 29, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lost Memories » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:That must have been a translation error from the french media.
The first italian to die from sars2 was an elderly of 74 years, if i remember right.
The 38 years old, was the first infected of the lombardy cluster. He progressed all the way to the severe stage of the disease, and started to recover only few days ago.


That was a mistranslation? He didnt die?

The 38 years old, healthy and athletic, fits the description of the first case in lombardy, which i'm not aware of him dying.
Regardless if he died (hope not) he wasn't the first death in italy.

You can read a summary of it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coro ... c_in_Italy
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/222881/

hmag

pagan american empireLiberalism is a LieWhat is Hell

"The whole is something else than the sum of its parts" -Kurt Koffka

A fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine, but was unable to.
As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet!'
As such are people who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain.
-The Fox and the Grapes

"Dictionaries don't decide what words mean. Prescriptivism is the ultimate form of elitism." -United Muscovite Nations
or subtle illiteracy, or lazy sidetracking. Just fucking follow the context. And ask when in doubt.

Not-asimov

We're all a bit stupid and ignorant, just be humble about it.

User avatar
Mirial Magna
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 434
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Mirial Magna » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:16 am

How much toilet paper do I need to make a hazmat suit?
Abril 8, 4020: The Republic has tracked General Grievous to Utapau! Perhaps this terrible clone war is finally coming to an end, even if we are on the losing side.

We do not use NS stats, but we do use the outcome of events.
❂Put this in your sig if you don't trust China on account of them being asshoe.❂
------------ Me and the boys sneaking into this signature.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: -Saiwania-, Cabestan, Fartsniffage, Gran Patria de las Antillas, Great Britain-and Northern Ireland, Greater Guantanamo, Imperial Cecilia, Islas Malvinas y Antartida Argentina, Lusitanic, Maraganta, Marxist-Leninist-Maoist China, Omerta, Revived Unclear, Rusozak, Shrillland, Slembana, TheHouseOfSilly, Valyxias

Advertisement

Remove ads