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by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:03 pm
by DrakoBlarea » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:03 pm
by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:04 pm
DrakoBlarea wrote:Well depends,I would most likely escape with my family in my village,since I am 16 but.... if the commies threatened to take power I would most likely join.
by Phocidaea » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:04 pm
by The united imperial sector » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:05 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:05 pm
by Arthurista » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:05 pm
Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?
Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution
by Olthar » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:06 pm
by Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:06 pm
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by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:07 pm
by Saint-Thor » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:11 pm
Saruhan wrote:I'd be wondering why a bunch of fat 50something Quebecois wanted to start shit with the feds
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:11 pm
Kleomentia wrote:
Well, the whole thing could have been avoided. And Germany never had to invade Yugoslavia, Duke Pavle who was Regent back then was negotiating with Germany, and Serbia would have even gotten some lands.
And yes, foolishly killking 10 German soldier for which 100 Serbian people will be killed is not nothing, it is pure stupidity. Partisans did more harm than good. It would be better if they just butted out and waited for the allies to liberate us.
by Dyakovo » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:14 pm
Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?
Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution
by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:15 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Kleomentia wrote:Well, the whole thing could have been avoided. And Germany never had to invade Yugoslavia, Duke Pavle who was Regent back then was negotiating with Germany, and Serbia would have even gotten some lands.
And yes, foolishly killking 10 German soldier for which 100 Serbian people will be killed is not nothing, it is pure stupidity. Partisans did more harm than good. It would be better if they just butted out and waited for the allies to liberate us.
Yes it could have been avoided, but in the end, Hitler would not be satisfied until he took it all. Also plenty of Serbs, Bosnians and others where dieing anyway with the partisans, as most of them were seen as inferior to the germans, being south slavs and all that. If the partisans had not acted many more would have died, they saved thousands upon thousands of lives. And in the end had they not done what they had done, more would die, and it would not have been the allies who liberated you, the "Liberation" would have been at the hands of the Red Army, and would you have rather had Yugoslavia as a Soviet Puppet for half a century?
by Saruhan » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:15 pm
Saint-Thor wrote:Saruhan wrote:I'd be wondering why a bunch of fat 50something Quebecois wanted to start shit with the feds
Hey?! Why fat? We're the less fat people of all Canada. Newfoundland, on the other hand...
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by Camicon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:17 pm
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?
Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution
I'd be wondering how the fuck Quebec got so many violent separatists. Because that's the only way I can imagine a revolution going on here.
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by Arthurista » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:21 pm
Kleomentia wrote:
Well, the whole thing could have been avoided. And Germany never had to invade Yugoslavia, Duke Pavle who was Regent back then was negotiating with Germany, and Serbia would have even gotten some lands.
And yes, foolishly killking 10 German soldier for which 100 Serbian people will be killed is not nothing, it is pure stupidity. Partisans did more harm than good. It would be better if they just butted out and waited for the allies to liberate us.
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:23 pm
Kleomentia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yes it could have been avoided, but in the end, Hitler would not be satisfied until he took it all. Also plenty of Serbs, Bosnians and others where dieing anyway with the partisans, as most of them were seen as inferior to the germans, being south slavs and all that. If the partisans had not acted many more would have died, they saved thousands upon thousands of lives. And in the end had they not done what they had done, more would die, and it would not have been the allies who liberated you, the "Liberation" would have been at the hands of the Red Army, and would you have rather had Yugoslavia as a Soviet Puppet for half a century?
You really wanna go with that? Because of Tito's brilliant tactits hundreds of thousands of Serbian soldiers died. Partisans were also bandits who stole from their own people and raped women when they were drunk. While if a German soldier stole a chicken from a Yugoslav he would have been shot on the spot. The partisans also played the "who has the biggest dick?" game and had a couple of battles with them and when the communists took over they killed and outcasted them. Sounds really lovely, doesn't it?
by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:23 pm
Arthurista wrote:Kleomentia wrote:Well, the whole thing could have been avoided. And Germany never had to invade Yugoslavia, Duke Pavle who was Regent back then was negotiating with Germany, and Serbia would have even gotten some lands.
And yes, foolishly killking 10 German soldier for which 100 Serbian people will be killed is not nothing, it is pure stupidity. Partisans did more harm than good. It would be better if they just butted out and waited for the allies to liberate us.
Yep, sit it out and wait for Stalin. Great idea.
Tito was a dictator, but way lesser of two evils. At least Yugoslavia didn't end up as a Soviet puppet.
by Kleomentia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:25 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Kleomentia wrote:You really wanna go with that? Because of Tito's brilliant tactits hundreds of thousands of Serbian soldiers died. Partisans were also bandits who stole from their own people and raped women when they were drunk. While if a German soldier stole a chicken from a Yugoslav he would have been shot on the spot. The partisans also played the "who has the biggest dick?" game and had a couple of battles with them and when the communists took over they killed and outcasted them. Sounds really lovely, doesn't it?
Did i say that? i dont recall saying that, but i apparently did. How silly of me not to realize.
The Partisans lost between 250,000 to 350,000 thousand, many of them were not Serbs by the way. Couple of battles? The partisans liberated near the entire country, the only country in the war to do so, the rest was taken back by them and the Red army. And do you really think a german soldier would have been killed for taking a chicken? from people the nazis saw as inferior? who they killed in droves, in the thousands? tens of Thousands, nay millions of French, dutch, Belgian, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, Norwegian, Danish and others civilians died due to partisan actions, but i guess they should not have bothered then eh? Its not like they helped win the war or nothing and prevented millions of more deaths.
And while i dont like killing in general, the ones who were killed by Tito and his men after the war, where largely (but not all) the ones who helped the Germans, who assisted in the attempted Genocide of an entire race for their own benefit.
by Arthurista » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:26 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:43 pm
Kleomentia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Did i say that? i dont recall saying that, but i apparently did. How silly of me not to realize.
The Partisans lost between 250,000 to 350,000 thousand, many of them were not Serbs by the way. Couple of battles? The partisans liberated near the entire country, the only country in the war to do so, the rest was taken back by them and the Red army. And do you really think a german soldier would have been killed for taking a chicken? from people the nazis saw as inferior? who they killed in droves, in the thousands? tens of Thousands, nay millions of French, dutch, Belgian, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, Norwegian, Danish and others civilians died due to partisan actions, but i guess they should not have bothered then eh? Its not like they helped win the war or nothing and prevented millions of more deaths.
And while i dont like killing in general, the ones who were killed by Tito and his men after the war, where largely (but not all) the ones who helped the Germans, who assisted in the attempted Genocide of an entire race for their own benefit.
Well, i highly doubt that a story from my great grandfather who didn't like the germans wouldn't be true since he was telling how great their organization was. A german officer was about to shoot a german soldier who stole a chicken from my great grandfather, however my great grandfather managed to talk him out of it.
Yeah sure, blame the King's guard for genocide. Communist propaganda and bullshit.
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:49 pm
by Saint-Thor » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:05 pm
Camicon wrote:Tlaceceyaya wrote:I'd be wondering how the fuck Quebec got so many violent separatists. Because that's the only way I can imagine a revolution going on here.
I'd be wondering why they didn't give up in a week. They are French-Canadians, after all.
I kid, I kid. Violent separatists aren't entirely unknown to Canada, however. Most recently, the October Crisis. Historically, we have the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion, and the North-West Rebellion.
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