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Blood Wine
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foe evasion

Postby Blood Wine » Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:44 am

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Postby Blood Wine » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:33 am

This seems to have been missed, bump?
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Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.

[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus

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Servilis
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Postby Servilis » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:51 am

Why would someone evade foedom?
It's not like it's gonna hurt you.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:32 pm

Blood Wine wrote:This seems to have been missed, bump?

Making puppets is not illegal, nor is using them to evade being on someone's Foe List. Though like Servilis, who did break a rule by posting in an obvious report thread despite not being involved and despite offering only an opinion, like they said, it's not like Foe Lists do much of anything.
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Capitalizt

Postby Kyrusia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:14 pm

After some discussion, there appears to have been a bit of a behind-the-scenes mix-up. For transparency:
Katganistan wrote:As a general reminder: If a player makes it clear they want nothing to do with you, repeatedly seeking them out in an attempt to provoke a response qualifies as harassment - whether they have you formally blocked is irrelevant. Having a player blocked, either on the forums or telegrams, does not suddenly mean they can continue with harassment. Of course, if you suspect someone is evading a block, report them as well.

(Un)fortunately (???), this sort of report does not frequently arise, so the exact nature of the policy, in turn, doesn't get brought up often. That said, this was addressed already.

To clarify: we do, in fact, ding for evading the Foe List in the event such arises. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. In this case, however, it appears this was actually addressed, and just not cleared here. If there are incidents beyond the above reprimand by Reploid, I may have missed it, and please feel free to bring it to my attention if such is the case.
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Blood Wine
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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:05 am

Yeah, that's what i remembered as it being as well, was scratching my head about that one finding where it was said, thanks for the clarification
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Formerly known as Port Blood
Current foreign Minister of gay
Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.

[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus

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Gormwood
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:10 pm

In that case, something needs to be done about this guy.

NS Miami wrote:Who the heck has 500 names, I said I have over 151 nations on nation states which is true.
Most of them are dead asleep till awaken again. It is easy to update, you update a certain number each day in exact order. I have the list, I just need to find it. I also have parts of it on my notebook posts on my computer.

In fact I am going to look for it right now.

Thank you all for motivating me to do so.

Claiming to have 151 accounts, plus he uses multiple accounts to post in the same threads quite often, especially the latest MAGAthread. I have him on block but it gets annoying having to put more of his accounts on the Foe list when he uses them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to block him.
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NS Miami
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Postby NS Miami » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:08 am

Gormwood wrote:In that case, something needs to be done about this guy.

NS Miami wrote:Who the heck has 500 names, I said I have over 151 nations on nation states which is true.
Most of them are dead asleep till awaken again. It is easy to update, you update a certain number each day in exact order. I have the list, I just need to find it. I also have parts of it on my notebook posts on my computer.

In fact I am going to look for it right now.

Thank you all for motivating me to do so.

Claiming to have 151 accounts, plus he uses multiple accounts to post in the same threads quite often, especially the latest MAGAthread. I have him on block but it gets annoying having to put more of his accounts on the Foe list when he uses them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to block him.

To The Moderator:

I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.
I have not tried to get around any bans from any nation on nation states. That would be very stupid of me to do and get me banned from nation states which we all love

I have not done anything wrong.
I cant believe any nation like Gormwood in this case is reporting me or complaining about my post above. But they have a right too. I have asked them several times to put me on their foe list, on their ignore list.

I am not trying to avoid the foe list. If the Moderators wish I only post with one of my Miami Shores nations on the Trump Maga Threads I will do so. Gormwood claims he has me blocked, but he sees my Miami nations, and makes fun of my support of President Trump in his posts to me and on his posts to other nations, which he is allowed to do so. Gormwood knows very well those are my Miami nations.

As well as all of them who might be trying to block me keep doing. Quoting me on those Miami nations they know are my nations, and making fun of my support for President Trump which they are allowed to do.

Gormwood Posting to San Lumen - I am sure he is allowed to make this comment. I am sure he did no wrong on the post below. But it proves he sees my Miami Shores nation and knowns it is my Miami Shores nation and NS Miami:

Why do you keep trying to debate him and subject the rest of us to actually seeing his posts? I would have thought seeing him unironically wanting to sign up for a premium class at Trump You would have driven the point home to you that he shrugs off anything that says bad things about Donnie including facts and observations like Superman shrugs off bullets.
viewtopic.php?p=36413569#p36413569

Gormwood is allowed to not like me or hate me for defending President Trump, I am sure he did no wrong on the post above. But it proves he sees my Miami Shores nation and knows it is my Miami Shores nation and NS Miami. This so called problem with Gormwood and the others only happens on the Trump maga threads and posts. Funny how it only happens on the Trump maga threads and posts. Funny is a figure of speech.

I only post on the Trump maga threads with several of my Miami Shores Nations. I posted a list to them with all my Miami and La Habana Cuba nations for their benefit, and they saw it and thanked me for it. It will take me time to find and post the link to you of that list post. The Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States thanked me for it.

I just found the link, I don't post with all these Miami Nations on the Trump Maga thread but I have posted with a few of them, and they know very well they are my nations. They keep quoting me and making fun of my support for President Trump which they are allowed to do. Notice I use the word Hell because The Rich Port used the word Hell:
viewtopic.php?p=36394678#p36394678

The Great Confederacy of Common Wealth States thanked me for it:
But the list has been really helpful in expanding my foe list, though.
viewtopic.php?p=36394695&sid=8517317d1772a4f7fdd57c8d0e6db714#p36394695

I spend time on all these nations and I switch nations. My posting style is the same and they all know it. Gomwood and the others know very well who I am. I have never made any secret of it. At times I even post Miami Shores Alberto. They have even posted back to me you don't have to sign your other nation name, we know who you are, on the Trump maga threads.

I have asked them many times if they don't like me to put me on ignore and I posted the list of all my Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba nations for their benefit and they thanked me for it.

I do have over 151 nations on nation states, most of them are dead and I have revived many of them from time to time over and over again. Many are real world and regional world named nations and many are made up nation named nations. I hardly ever post with and usually post on the RP threads, not on the Trump maga threads.

I hope I have explained my side of it well.

I have questions on how the foe list or the ignore list as I call it works. I will wait until after you make your decisions on this case to ask those questions with a new post just on those questions. Thank you.

NS Miami - Alberto
Last edited by NS Miami on Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:34 pm, edited 70 times in total.
I will only Post from one nation per thread. Alberto, I am Greater Miami Shores NS Miami NS Miami Shores Miami Shores Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores N so. La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and so. I am not trying to evade any foe list or ignore list as I call it. I am not trying to Puppet Wank Anything. I Post to all Nations if Allowed to do so. If I see them and they see my Posts. Should mean I am not being ignore listed. Greater Miami Shores Alberto.

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Postby Conquerus » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:29 am

I will just say that I had no idea what on earth a foe list was until I was warned
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:09 am

Said poster knows I have them on my foe list and yet they are blatantly attempting to go around it viewtopic.php?p=36409139#p36409139
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby NS Miami » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:41 am

Thermodolia wrote:Said poster knows I have them on my foe list and yet they are blatantly attempting to go around it viewtopic.php?p=36409139#p36409139

To the Moderator:
Thermodolia - Thermy for short as he likes to be called.

I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.

I have not tried to get around any bans from any nation on nation states. It would be very stupid of me to do and get me banned from nation states which we all love

The Post Thermy links to is an old post. He has never told me not to post to him or quote him with any of my nations and he knows my nations well, they are very obvious.

I have not posted or quoted Thermy since after he so called blocked me, How can I post or quote him after he so called blocked me. I see his posts and he sees my posts.

He could have the decency to send me a TG asking me to not post or quote him with any of my nations on all general and RP threads I would honor his wishes, that is what I would have done, to force himself to do so if necessary, this is what I would have done, but this is me.

He once sent me a TG saying don't send me anymore TGs and I have honored his wishes. But he has not indicated to me I any way not to post or quote his nation. After that we have posted and quoted each others nations with no problems, this only happens when it is on the Trump maga threads with any of them.

I will somehow if possible request with a general post for any nation to tell me if they want to block me. Perhaps I can quote certain nations and on the post say do you want to block me if so I understand and respect your wishes and decision?

I have questions on how the foe list or the ignore list as I call it works. I will wait until after you make your decisions on this case to ask those questions with a new post just on those questions.

I hope I have explained my side of it well.

Thank you.

NS Miami - Alberto
Last edited by NS Miami on Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:05 am, edited 19 times in total.
I will only Post from one nation per thread. Alberto, I am Greater Miami Shores NS Miami NS Miami Shores Miami Shores Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores N so. La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and so. I am not trying to evade any foe list or ignore list as I call it. I am not trying to Puppet Wank Anything. I Post to all Nations if Allowed to do so. If I see them and they see my Posts. Should mean I am not being ignore listed. Greater Miami Shores Alberto.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:24 am

NS Miami wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Said poster knows I have them on my foe list and yet they are blatantly attempting to go around it viewtopic.php?p=36409139#p36409139

To the Moderator:
Thermodolia - Thermy for short as he likes to be called.

I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.

I have not tried to get around any bans from any nation on nation states. That would be very stupid of me to do and get me banned from nation states which we all love

The Post Thermy links to is an old post. He has never told me not to post to him or quote him with any of my nations and he knows my nations well, they are very obvious.

I have not posted or quoted Thermy since after he so called blocked me, How can I post or quote him after he so called blocked me. I see his posts and he sees my posts.

He could have the decency to send me a TG asking me to not post or quote him with any of my nations on all general and RP threads I would honor his wishes, that is what I would have done, to force himself to do so if necessary, this is what I would have done, but this is me.

He once sent me a TG saying don't send me anymore TGs and I have honored his wishes. But he has not indicated to me I any way not to post or quote his nation. After that we have posted and quoted each others nations with no problems, this only happens when it is on the Trump maga threads with any of them.

I will somehow if possible request with a general post for any nation to tell me if they want to block me. Perhaps I can quote certain nations and on the post say do you want to block me if so I understand and respect your wishes and decision?

I have questions on how the foe list or the ignore list as I call it works. I will wait until after you make your decisions on this case to ask those questions with a new post just on those questions.

I hope I have explained my side of it well.

Thank you.

NS Miami - Alberto

Dude I told people to put you on ignore several times before that post so don’t pull the “I didn’t know” bullshit. Second never call me “thermy” it’s Therm or Thermodolia.

Here’s a post from October showing that I use the ignore feature: viewtopic.php?p=36387331#p36387331 for said poster
And here’s a post from beginning of November showing the same: viewtopic.php?p=36398298#p36398298
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby NS Miami » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:31 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NS Miami wrote:To the Moderator:
Thermodolia - Thermy for short as he likes to be called.

I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.

I have not tried to get around any bans from any nation on nation states. That would be very stupid of me to do and get me banned from nation states which we all love

The Post Thermy links to is an old post. He has never told me not to post to him or quote him with any of my nations and he knows my nations well, they are very obvious.

I have not posted or quoted Thermy since after he so called blocked me, How can I post or quote him after he so called blocked me. I see his posts and he sees my posts.

He could have the decency to send me a TG asking me to not post or quote him with any of my nations on all general and RP threads I would honor his wishes, that is what I would have done, to force himself to do so if necessary, this is what I would have done, but this is me.

He once sent me a TG saying don't send me anymore TGs and I have honored his wishes. But he has not indicated to me I any way not to post or quote his nation. After that we have posted and quoted each others nations with no problems, this only happens when it is on the Trump maga threads with any of them.

I will somehow if possible request with a general post for any nation to tell me if they want to block me. Perhaps I can quote certain nations and on the post say do you want to block me if so I understand and respect your wishes and decision?

I have questions on how the foe list or the ignore list as I call it works. I will wait until after you make your decisions on this case to ask those questions with a new post just on those questions.

I hope I have explained my side of it well.

Thank you.

NS Miami - Alberto

Dude I told people to put you on ignore several times before that post so don’t pull the “I didn’t know” bullshit. Second never call me “thermy” it’s Therm or Thermodolia.

Here’s a post from October showing that I use the ignore feature: viewtopic.php?p=36387331#p36387331 for said poster
And here’s a post from beginning of November showing the same: viewtopic.php?p=36398298#p36398298

Ok I now call you Therm. Yes you told other nations to put me on ignore, but you never told me you would put me on ignore. You never told me not to post to you or quote you. Thank you for telling me officially right now not to post to you or quote to you. I will honor your wishes and your decision.

I am not trying to evade any foe list or ignore list with any nations. I am not trying to pull anything here. It would be very stupid of me to do so with any nation and get me banned from nation states which we all love.

But I guess this will be the last time, since you wish no communications with me on TGs General and RP Threads.

As I said I have questions for the moderator on how the foe list or ignore list as I call it works. I will wait for your decision and posted my questions on here on a separate post, so it is separate from this mess and incident.

I hope I have explained my side of it well.

Thank You. NS Miami Alberto.
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I will only Post from one nation per thread. Alberto, I am Greater Miami Shores NS Miami NS Miami Shores Miami Shores Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores N so. La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and so. I am not trying to evade any foe list or ignore list as I call it. I am not trying to Puppet Wank Anything. I Post to all Nations if Allowed to do so. If I see them and they see my Posts. Should mean I am not being ignore listed. Greater Miami Shores Alberto.

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Postby Aeisonia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:38 am

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:10 pm

I've brought this up with the rest of the Moderation Team. I post in the MAGAThread and the Elections thread, so I'm not going to rule. Please be patient.

Aeisonia wrote:*quietly puts all the mods on my foe list*


im kidding pls no punish ;-;

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:01 pm

NS Miami wrote:My posting style is the same and they all know it.

This is the fundamental problem with this issue. There is zero requirement for anyone else to be aware of your other nations. They don't "all know it", nor do they need to. Most people (in NS General, at least) post with a single nation. This is the recommended practice, as it allows players a chance to hide posts (via the Foe List) from any single player they don't with to interact with.

NS Miami wrote:Who the heck has 500 names, I said I have over 151 nations on nation states which is true.

Lots of players have puppets, but they don't usually post with them. What you are in essence saying is that anyone who wants to block you needs to add 151 nations to their foe list. That's not fair to the other players. You need to pick a "main nation" for forum posting, and stick with that. If you want a different nation for roleplaying, or posting in F7, that's also fine. When you post in General, pick just one and stick to it.

NS Miami wrote:I hope I have explained my side of it well.

We don't need massive posts explaining things. All you managed to do was dig the hole even deeper.

NS Miami wrote:I will wait for your decision and posted my questions on here on a separate post,

Please don't. Pick a nation and use that for your forum posting. End of discussion.

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Postby NS Miami » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:43 pm

Thank you Frisbeeteria and for your Rulling. I will use only one nation to post from now on. My main concern is to keep my clean record clean of which I am very Proud of and wish to keep clean. By this rulling my record keeps clean, thank you.

I have never had any intentions of using any of my 151 Plus nations to evade a foe list or ignore ban list as I call it. I have posted many times before this unfortunate incident I have over 100 nations. No matter what my statement sounded like. I would be very stupid to try it and get banned from nation states which we all love. I hate any fellow nations getting banned from nations states which we all love. I wish we could all be NS Friends despite our Politics even despite President Trump.

I wish we could all be NS Friends despite our Politics even despite President Trump, and RP with each other.

I have a clean record I am very Proud of and wish to keep clean. I Plan to be on NS for the rest of my life and from beyond the grave.

I Plan to RP all current and future US Presidents with their own nations. Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Socialists, whatever's and even communists if they let us lol. But I hope President Trump is reelected in 2020 and I will not have to create my next US President nation till 2025 and I hope it is Republican President Mike Pence and his Vice President to be named. I have a Republican President Ronald Reagan nation and First Lady Nancy Reagan who loved him dearly and he loved her dearly. Wearing her favorite color Republican Red. Dancing cheek to Cheek to My Lady In Red.

President Ronald Reagan the Greatest American President ever and the original Make America Great Again President, of The United States of America - The USA.

President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan any more.

President Trump is no gentleman. But he is the Second Greatest American President ever of The United States of America - The USA.

Granted they have very different styles.

President Trumps style lol have mercy.

I am a Proud Conservative Republican supporter of President Donald J Trump of The United States of America - The USA. Native Cuban and American citizen. I know I can speak for my Cuban American Family and Friends who feel the same way. I am a Proud Hispanic Latino USA American.

MY Miami Shores nations are RP.

I will never try to get a fellow nations general or RP threads locked for any reasons, as has been done to me before and other nations, how dare I. Not even the RPs are safe anymore on NS. It is sad, it is very sad.

I hold no grudges against at least 18 nations who don't like me or who hate me because I strongly defend Republican President Donald J Trump of The United States of America - The USA.

I say they hate me for strongly defending President Trump. As Proven by their Posts to me, like Gormwoods post to me I Posted on this thread. Their making fun of my support for President Trump. They have lightly harassed me over and over again. As their Posts to me Prove, but not actionable. I admit I consider myself and am President Trump's strongest supporter and defender on nation states on NS.

I still think I should have won both Prior cases I presented, but at least I won the second one. I was hoping that would ease the light and hard harassment's and Flame against me.

I Plan to ask the Moderator questions on this Thread on how the Foe list ban or ignore ban list as I call it works. I am not sure yet all the questions I have and how to phrase them. When I do I will Post on this thread those questions.

I know many nations read our Posts this is Part of the reasons I Post this Post, but not all of the reasons.

I thank Frisbeeteria, Farnhamia and the Moderators Team that discussed and Reviewed my Case. The case against me.

Thank You Frisbeeteria.
Last edited by NS Miami on Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:30 pm, edited 9 times in total.
I will only Post from one nation per thread. Alberto, I am Greater Miami Shores NS Miami NS Miami Shores Miami Shores Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and Miami Shores N so. La Habana Cuba Greater La Habana Cuba and so. I am not trying to evade any foe list or ignore list as I call it. I am not trying to Puppet Wank Anything. I Post to all Nations if Allowed to do so. If I see them and they see my Posts. Should mean I am not being ignore listed. Greater Miami Shores Alberto.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 pm

He's posting with alternate accounts again.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I read the whole context, I am still certain that you do not know what it means, hence me asking you what you think it means.

I am sorry but I think I made my point clear. This whole thing started because a certain nation I cant even remember the name of and I would have to check back the posts, claimed that I worship Trump and the Republicans. So I posted that Republicans support Republicans, and Democrats support democrats. they both have their hard core base of worshipers.

Making fun of my support for President Trump by a few nation just a few minutes ago, granted it is allowed and not actionable. Honestly I cant understand why you guys don't notice it. Any thing I post with comments, links and videos get dismissed as wrong , and anything they post they defend as right. Then if I defend my posts they make fun of my posts and statements to me and each other, the evidence is very clear, reflected in their posts to me, granted it is allowed and not actionable.

If I try to do the same or similar in my defense of my posts and statements, they say I am wrong and they are right, then they make fun of my posts and comments to me and each other. I cant win one according to them. Granted they have not done anything actionable against me.

I give up. I surrender they are all correct and I wrong every time. I think that is what they want me to admit. Sorry for this rant this post has turned into. I cant argue anything without being wrong according to them. I give up.

Whataboutism:
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.Also called whataboutery.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=whatabout ... =0&PC=MSE1

False Equivalence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
"the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"

Equivlance - I could not find a true equivalence definition.
1. The state or condition of being equivalent; equality. 2. Mathematics An equivalence relation. 3. Logic The relationship that holds for two propositions that are either both true or both false, so that the affirmation of one and the denial of the other results in contradiction.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/equivalence
I am finally correct on something on this thread, I am correct on this one.

I rest my case again.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Gormwood wrote:He's posting with alternate accounts again.

Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba wrote:I am sorry but I think I made my point clear. This whole thing started because a certain nation I cant even remember the name of and I would have to check back the posts, claimed that I worship Trump and the Republicans. So I posted that Republicans support Republicans, and Democrats support democrats. they both have their hard core base of worshipers.

Making fun of my support for President Trump by a few nation just a few minutes ago, granted it is allowed and not actionable. Honestly I cant understand why you guys don't notice it. Any thing I post with comments, links and videos get dismissed as wrong , and anything they post they defend as right. Then if I defend my posts they make fun of my posts and statements to me and each other, the evidence is very clear, reflected in their posts to me, granted it is allowed and not actionable.

If I try to do the same or similar in my defense of my posts and statements, they say I am wrong and they are right, then they make fun of my posts and comments to me and each other. I cant win one according to them. Granted they have not done anything actionable against me.

I give up. I surrender they are all correct and I wrong every time. I think that is what they want me to admit. Sorry for this rant this post has turned into. I cant argue anything without being wrong according to them. I give up.

Whataboutism:
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.Also called whataboutery.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=whatabout ... =0&PC=MSE1

False Equivalence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
"the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"

Equivlance - I could not find a true equivalence definition.
1. The state or condition of being equivalent; equality. 2. Mathematics An equivalence relation. 3. Logic The relationship that holds for two propositions that are either both true or both false, so that the affirmation of one and the denial of the other results in contradiction.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/equivalence
I am finally correct on something on this thread, I am correct on this one.

I rest my case again.

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I Posted this Post to Farnhamia - Please Note it is on my Cuba Embargo Thread from my Nation of NS Miami:
I will use only this nation( of NS Miami ) to post on my Cuba thread.
viewtopic.php?p=36415726#p36415726

Please Note this Post To Farnhamia is on the Trump Mega Threads - From my Nation of Greater Miami Shores:
Farnhamia I have chosen this Nation to Post on all Trump Megathreads. I have Posed before from this Nation on this Thread. I can see all 18 or more nations that might have a Problem with me Posting to them from all my main nations. quoting and Linking to them. They have not Put any of my main Nations they know very well on the ignore list.
I will Post on my New UN Cuban Embargo Thread from my NS Miami Nation of which I am the OP.
viewtopic.php?p=36415979#p36415979

I would very stupid do to it on purpose and get banned from NS which we all love, or ruin my clean record I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.

But an honest accident happened, that I did not realize I had posted with the wrong nation of Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba. I Posted by accident with Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba to Nuetraligion. Neutraligion was just asking me a question he thinks I did not understand, he was not warning me, or reprimanding me in any way as our communication shows.
From Neutraligion To Greater Miami Shores:
viewtopic.php?p=36418309#p36418309

From Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba to Neutraligion:
viewtopic.php?p=36418408#p36418408

My Evidence and apology Post to the Moderators, I thought they would see on the thread, when I realized my honest error and accident. To the Moderators sorry I posted from the wrong nation it was an accident since I spend time on all my nations and I switch back and forth between them. I will be careful in the future. I will now switch back to Greater Miami Shores.
But I am very serious about the Maga Thread names suggestions above to Nakena and the Moderators.
From Greater Miami Shores Apologizing to the Moderators:
viewtopic.php?p=36418575#p36418575
Granted I should have posted directly to Neutraligion - but I did not think of it at the moment.

From Greater Miami Shores to Farnhamia:
viewtopic.php?p=36418856#p36418856

Thank You:

Greater Miami Shores Alberto.

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No I am not Gormwood it was an honest accident. I explained and apologized to the Moderators with my posts.
The Post above was between me and Neutraligion, notice I posted to neutraligion with the wrong nation by accident not intent. Neutraligion was just asking me a question he thinks I did not understand, he was not warning me, or repremending me in any way as our communication shows.

I will edit this page with my evidence that it was an honest accident and I apologized and explained it to the Moderators. I would very stupid do to it on purpose and get banned from NS which we all love, or ruin my clean record I am very proud of and wish to keep clean.

The Post above was between me and Neutraligion.

Thank you.

Greater Miami Shores Alberto.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:02 am

Gormwood wrote:He's posting with alternate accounts again.


No rules have been broken in the quoted exchange.

Regardless of Frisbeeteria's strong recommendation that Miami choose one account and stick with it, there is no evidence that Miami was using an alternate to bypass a foe list.

This appears to have been foolishness, not rule-breaking.

That said, Miami (and I'm calling you 'Miami' as shorthand since that's the common denominator in your nation names), please be much more careful about this. If this happens a couple of more times, we might have to reconsider giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Espero que todo es claro, si?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:41 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Gormwood wrote:He's posting with alternate accounts again.


No rules have been broken in the quoted exchange.

Regardless of Frisbeeteria's strong recommendation that Miami choose one account and stick with it, there is no evidence that Miami was using an alternate to bypass a foe list.

This appears to have been foolishness, not rule-breaking.

That said, Miami (and I'm calling you 'Miami' as shorthand since that's the common denominator in your nation names), please be much more careful about this. If this happens a couple of more times, we might have to reconsider giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Espero que todo es claro, si?

I have a clean record that I am very proud of and wish to keep clean, as I love NS Nation States. I Plan to be on NS for the rest of my life and from beyond the grave if possible.

Yes I never intended to evade the foe list or the ignore list as I call it, before or after this second incident happened, in the second incident just now, it was an accident on my part. I apologized to the Moderators on the Thread.

Yes it was an accident on my part that I posted with another nation on the Trump Mega Threads after the incident that happened to me.

Yes for the record of this thread and post, since the first incident that happened to me, and Frisbeeteria's strong recommendation that I choose one nation and stick with it.

I indicated and apologized to Farnhamia that I would post with only one nation on the Cuban embargo thread and one other nation explained below on the Trump Mega Threads.

I have chosen NS Miami as my nation to post on my New UN Cuban Embargo vote thread.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores as my nation to post on the 2019 Miscellaneous election thread, the Democrats Primary thread and the Trump Mega Threads.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba as my nation to post on the Hong Kong Thread and the Hitting the Mark Thread. I like this nation on these threads because it relates to Cuba my nation of origin. I am a native Cuban and American citizen. I happen to have a girl cousin of Cuban, Spaniard, Chinese descent. I happen to have a Cuban Chinese friend in Miami that has a Chinese Cousin in Hong Kong.

I will make a note on the first post on these threads from these nations on my first post from this moment on.

I know and I understand If this happens a couple of more times, I will have to face the consequences for it.

I will be very careful where I post and from what nations I post from on the threads.

I will always post from one nation per thread.

Thank you The Archregimancy, Gracias Por Todo.

Miami - Alberto
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I will only Post from one Nation Per Thread. I am not trying to evade Foe list Ignore list or Puppet Wank. I am the worlds greatest Insomiac, I beat the worlds record every day. Am accountant by Profession worked at US Defense Contractor Corp in Chicago. President Trump second greatest insomniac with 3 AM Tweets. President Trump is no gentle man. President Reagan gentleman no more make. I am Native Cuban and American citizen Alberto. President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President greatest American President ever. Firs lady Nancy Reagan greatest ever. Viva President Trump 2020 Keep Making America Great Again. Second greatest America President ever. Proud conservative Republican Nationalist with slight libertarian economic streak. Proud Hispanic Latino Republican.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:38 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I have chosen NS Miami as my nation to post on my New UN Cuban Embargo vote thread.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores as my nation to post on the 2019 Miscellaneous election thread, the Democrats Primary thread and the Trump Mega Threads.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba as my nation to post on the Hong Kong Thread and the Hitting the Mark Thread. I like this nation on these threads because it relates to Cuba my nation of origin. I am a native Cuban and American citizen. I happen to have a girl cousin of Cuban, Spaniard, Chinese descent. I happen to have a Cuban Chinese friend in Miami that has a Chinese Cousin in Hong Kong.

I will make a note on the first post on these threads from these nations on my first post from this moment on.


That means you're using three different nations across five different threads.

This is not what we are recommending.

While it's always very obvious that it's you - you're using the same flag and have a very distinctive posting style - it places the responsibility of working out which nation you're using in a particular thread on other NSG participants. Placing a note on your first post in a thread is not a solution; you can't expect people to go back and find your post on page 2 if the thread has reached page 54 (never mind page 454).

This will continue to leave you open to the charge of foe evasion, even if it's an accident, since not everyone who has you on an ignore list will be aware of which nation you're using on these specific threads.

And what about future threads? It's unlikely that these are the only five threads you'll ever post in. If Raul Castro dies next week, and someone starts an 'end of the Castro era' thread, I imagine you'll want to participate; likewise if there is a coup against Maduro.

So it's not just a matter of transparency.

We would strongly recommend that from this point onwards you use only one Miami nation while posting in General. This is the best way of protecting yourself.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:52 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I have chosen NS Miami as my nation to post on my New UN Cuban Embargo vote thread.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores as my nation to post on the 2019 Miscellaneous election thread, the Democrats Primary thread and the Trump Mega Threads.

I have chosen Greater Miami Shores and La Habana Cuba as my nation to post on the Hong Kong Thread and the Hitting the Mark Thread. I like this nation on these threads because it relates to Cuba my nation of origin. I am a native Cuban and American citizen. I happen to have a girl cousin of Cuban, Spaniard, Chinese descent. I happen to have a Cuban Chinese friend in Miami that has a Chinese Cousin in Hong Kong.

I will make a note on the first post on these threads from these nations on my first post from this moment on.


That means you're using three different nations across five different threads.

This is not what we are recommending.

While it's always very obvious that it's you - you're using the same flag and have a very distinctive posting style - it places the responsibility of working out which nation you're using in a particular thread on other NSG participants. Placing a note on your first post in a thread is not a solution; you can't expect people to go back and find your post on page 2 if the thread has reached page 54 (never mind page 454).

This will continue to leave you open to the charge of foe evasion, even if it's an accident, since not everyone who has you on an ignore list will be aware of which nation you're using on these specific threads.

And what about future threads? It's unlikely that these are the only five threads you'll ever post in. If Raul Castro dies next week, and someone starts an 'end of the Castro era' thread, I imagine you'll want to participate; likewise if there is a coup against Maduro.

So it's not just a matter of transparency.

We would strongly recommend that from this point onwards you use only one Miami nation while posting in General. This is the best way of protecting yourself.

To The The Archregimancy:

The moderators are right I did a foolish thing, despite me not trying to evade any foe list, ignore list or puppet wank anything the first time, the second time was an honest accident on my part. I for one don't foe list anyone or ignore list anyone. I Post to all nations and Persons.

I have added this statement to my 3 Main Nations Sigs - Signatures:
I will only Post from one Nation Per Thread. I am not trying to evade any Foe List or Ignore List as I call it. I am not trying to Puppet Wank any Threads. Many Nations on Nation States have more than one nation and use more than one nation.

These are my 3 main nations.

I understand and appreciate your concerns. I understand the consequences of what I stated above on this thread and posts. I wish to try it my way. I know and I understand the potential consequences of my actions. I strongly believe that I will be very careful where I post and from what nations I post from. I strongly believe I can do this. If it is ok with you.

These are my 3 main nations.

Thank You - Gracias

Miami - Alberto.
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I will only Post from one Nation Per Thread. I am not trying to evade Foe list Ignore list or Puppet Wank. I am the worlds greatest Insomiac, I beat the worlds record every day. Am accountant by Profession worked at US Defense Contractor Corp in Chicago. President Trump second greatest insomniac with 3 AM Tweets. President Trump is no gentle man. President Reagan gentleman no more make. I am Native Cuban and American citizen Alberto. President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President greatest American President ever. Firs lady Nancy Reagan greatest ever. Viva President Trump 2020 Keep Making America Great Again. Second greatest America President ever. Proud conservative Republican Nationalist with slight libertarian economic streak. Proud Hispanic Latino Republican.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:06 am

Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:02 am

I have a few questions on how the foe list or ignore list as I call it works?

As I have posted on this thread to the Moderators on my post or posts above. The Moderators are right I did a dumb, stupid foolish thing, by posting on the same thread with a few of my main nations. Despite me not trying to evade a foe list or ignore list as I call it, or Puppet wank anything. My main reason were I wanted my main nations to have a connection to the thread, and it makes it harder for me to review my posts on the thread.

So it was a dumb, stupid foolish thing I did on both my reasons and the Moderators reasons. I thank all the Moderators again for seeing I did not attempt to break a rule, that would get me banned from NS which I love and we all love. or would ruin my clean record that I am very proud of and which to keep clean.

I for one don't place any nation on my foe list or ignore list as I call it, I Post to all nations and all Persons if allowed to do so.

Questions and I am being very careful who I Post to or not just in case. I am doing better than I expected with the 18 plus nations that seem to have a problem with me strongly defending President Trump. Most or some are posting to me and vice versa despite previously complaining about me. Funny but they have no problems or complaints with me on other issues and threads, including on my anti Cuban government threads and posts on Cuba, my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons. A few of them have posted on my Cuba thread and I have posted to them with no problems. From my NS Miami Nation which happens to be my OP nation on this Cuban embargo thread.

All these 18 nations or so have not placed any of my main nations on ignore I think, as I can see their posts and they can see my posts from all my main nations, and I can technically quote to them and I assume they can technically quote to me.

But Fartsniffage seems to claim or imply he has me on ignore, but I can see his posts and he can see my posts, and I can technically quote his posts. So it seems like he does not have any of my nations on ignore or does he, as he seems to claim or imply? I can see them and they can see me, how does the ignore system work?

Posted by Fartsniffage to Neutraligion - Link Provided at end of Post:
I love that you're trying to teach this guy how to debate. But he worked on the Reagan campaign ( Proudly I was a Republican Poll watcher on Republican President Ronald Reagan's awesome landslide reelection night win - Proudly not like a dog, this is an insult to all the dogs I love - I love all dogs ) What is it they say about old dogs? And every time you quote him those of us who have him on ignore have to see his posts.
viewtopic.php?p=36425454#p36425454

I have not posted to this nation Fartsniffage from any of my nations just in case.
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Question 2: I have many nations on all the feeder regions and a few private regions of nations I use to RP with.
If I join their RMBs and Discord Channels, and they are on the RMBs and Discord Channels, how is my relationship to them determined by NS if they have me on ignore and I don't know it, what can I do and what cant I do? I assume I cant quote their posts on the RMBs and discord? I cant see them anyway or can I see them and technically post to them?

If I join a region and their Discord Channels and they are members their, I can see their posts and they can see mine, If I don't know who has me on their ignore list I cant ignore them back?

I suggest to the Moderators to post the ignore rules and how it works on the NS Rules threads, I looked and I could not find anything on it, except for a reference as how it relates to the Moderators.

I suggest to the Moderators to establish a technical system or TG Telegram to let the nations know they have been placed on another nations ignore list.

Also I suggest to the Moderators to have a technical or TG Telegram system to let any nation reported on the Moderators forum know they have been reported, so they have a chance to defend themselves right or wrong. Granted they might not see the TG Telegrams but at least they have a chance.

In my case I always keep at least one of my main nations on the moderators forum when I am posting on the general and RP threads or not posting, and I check it every few minutes or so to see if anyone has reported me for anything they can think of.

Thank you for your time and your answers to my questions.

Greater Miami Shores - Alberto.
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I will only Post from one Nation Per Thread. I am not trying to evade Foe list Ignore list or Puppet Wank. I am the worlds greatest Insomiac, I beat the worlds record every day. Am accountant by Profession worked at US Defense Contractor Corp in Chicago. President Trump second greatest insomniac with 3 AM Tweets. President Trump is no gentle man. President Reagan gentleman no more make. I am Native Cuban and American citizen Alberto. President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President greatest American President ever. Firs lady Nancy Reagan greatest ever. Viva President Trump 2020 Keep Making America Great Again. Second greatest America President ever. Proud conservative Republican Nationalist with slight libertarian economic streak. Proud Hispanic Latino Republican.

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