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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:30 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Because they aren't taking it from legitimate business owners. The legitimate business owners are claiming what is rightfully theirs.

Clarify for me. I'm literally confused.


The workers are the true business owners, not the CEOs, or some such.

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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:32 am

Mishmahig wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Clarify for me. I'm literally confused.


The workers are the true business owners, not the CEOs, or some such.

Not really. A business is the property of whoever owns it. In other words, the founder of the business and anyone who he sold shares to. A worker can buy his own share if he so wishes to own. CEOs don't always own shares in businesses by the way; they are technically workers, not owners.
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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:32 am

Debate out of the chamber, please.
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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:35 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
The workers are the true business owners, not the CEOs, or some such.

Not really. A business is the property of whoever owns it. In other words, the founder of the business and anyone who he sold shares to. A worker can buy his own share if he so wishes to own. CEOs don't always own shares in businesses by the way; they are technically workers, not owners.


I don't agree with it, good sir/madam. I was simply rephrasing what I'm relatively sure their reasoning is.

Either way, updated vote count:


VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 61
Against: 29
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 74
Against: 16
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 67
Against: 25
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 44
Against: 48
Abstain: 5

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Ceni
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Limiting Legislation Act: Aye
Secular State Act: Aye
International Law Act: Aye
Worker Empowerment Act: Aye
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Free South Califas
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Postby Free South Califas » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:31 am

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Secular State Act: FOR
International Law Act: FOR
Worker Empowerment Act: FOR
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Las Brisas
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Postby Las Brisas » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:45 am

Limiting Legislation Act: AYE
Secular State Act: AYE
International Law Act: AYE
Worker Empowerment Act: AYE
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Postby Namor » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:37 pm

LLA: FOR
SSA: FOR
ILA: FOR
WEA: AGAINST

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Postby The IASM » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:40 pm

LLA: Nay
SSA: Nay
ILA: Nay
WEA: Nay
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Postby LiamHerndon » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:20 pm

LLA: Against
SSA: For
ILA: For
WEA: For
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Postby Fulflood » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:32 pm

VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 64
Against: 32
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 79
Against: 17
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 72
Against: 26
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 48
Against: 50
Abstain: 5
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:09 pm

I would like to change my aye vote to a NAY on the Worker Empowerment Act.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:11 pm

VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 64
Against: 32
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 79
Against: 17
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 72
Against: 26
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 47
Against: 51
Abstain: 5
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Billtropolis
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Postby Billtropolis » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:17 pm

Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
Secular State Act: Yes
International Law Act: Yes
Worker Empowerment Act: No

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Bleckonia
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Postby Bleckonia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:17 pm

VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 65
Against: 32
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 80
Against: 17
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 73
Against: 26
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 47
Against: 52
Abstain: 5
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Central Africa
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Postby Central Africa » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:26 pm

I do hereby cast the following votes~

Limiting Legislation Act: FOR
Secular State Act:FOR
International Law Act: FOR
Worker Empowerment Act: FOR
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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:44 pm

I'd like to add this to the queue.

Food Vendor Act


Drafted by: Liberated Counties [CFE]
Sponsored By: Byzantium Imperial [NIFP] Polvia [RG] Potenco [RG] Ainin [TRP] Divair [CSP] Pyreneesia

RECOGNISING The fact that people often find themselves desiring a snack when away from home.

NOTING Restaurants are sometimes too expensive to always eat at when away from home.

HEREBY Allows citizens to apply for permits to sell food on public premises.

DEFINES A Food Vendor as a person who sells food, however not inside a Cafè, Restaurant or store.

Section 1: Permits

Permits will be necessary for a self-employed citizen to sell food in a certian location. Local authorities, at their own discretion, are responsible for providing small tracts of public area to acquire permits for, providing the citizen applying for the permit is adequately qualified to be handling uncooked or pre-cooked foodstuffs. A permit is free, however a 3% profit tax will be charged to the vendor at the end of each month. In the event that all the permits are taken, the applicant can be put on a waiting list.

Section 2: Food Quality

A vendor selling food is completly liable for any illnesses or adverse effects their food may cause, however in the event of an allergy being triggered neither buyer or vendor are liable if the vendor provided adequate allergy warnings. Local authorities are to be responsible for making sure Food Vendors follow health and safety guidelines.


I'm aware of the concerns about the actual importance to this act. However this act was drafted with the goal of providing a substantial amount of jobs to low-skilled citizens who are otherwise unable to find other forms of employment.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:46 pm

Liberated Counties wrote:I'd like to add this to the queue.

Food Vendor Act


Drafted by: Liberated Counties [CFE]
Sponsored By: Byzantium Imperial [NIFP] Polvia [RG] Potenco [RG] Ainin [TRP] Divair [CSP] Pyreneesia

RECOGNISING The fact that people often find themselves desiring a snack when away from home.

NOTING Resteraunts are sometimes too expensive to always eat at when away from home.

HEREBY Allows citizens to apply for permits to sell food on public premises.

DEFINES A Food Vendor as a person who sells food, however not inside a Cafè, Resteraunt or store.

Section 1: Permits

Permits will be necessary for a self-employed citizen to sell food in a certian location. Local authorities, at their own discretion, are responsible for providing small tracts of public area to acquire permits for, providing the citizen applying for the permit is adequately qualified to be handling uncooked or pre-cooked foodstuffs. A permit is free, however a 3% profit tax will be charged to the vendor at the end of each month. In the event that all the permits are taken, the applicant can be put on a waiting list.

Section 2: Food Quality

A vendor selling food is completly liable for any illnesses or adverse effects their food may cause, however in the event of an allergy being triggered neither buyer or vendor are liable if the vendor provided adequate allergy warnings. Local authorities are to be responsible for making sure Food Vendors follow health and safety guidelines.


I'm aware of the concerns about the actual importance to this act. However this act was drafted with the goal of providing a substantial amount of jobs to low-skilled citizens who are otherwise unable to find other forms of employment.

You misspelled restaurant.
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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:50 pm

Ainin wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:I'd like to add this to the queue.

Food Vendor Act


Drafted by: Liberated Counties [CFE]
Sponsored By: Byzantium Imperial [NIFP] Polvia [RG] Potenco [RG] Ainin [TRP] Divair [CSP] Pyreneesia

RECOGNISING The fact that people often find themselves desiring a snack when away from home.

NOTING Resteraunts are sometimes too expensive to always eat at when away from home.

HEREBY Allows citizens to apply for permits to sell food on public premises.

DEFINES A Food Vendor as a person who sells food, however not inside a Cafè, Resteraunt or store.

Section 1: Permits

Permits will be necessary for a self-employed citizen to sell food in a certian location. Local authorities, at their own discretion, are responsible for providing small tracts of public area to acquire permits for, providing the citizen applying for the permit is adequately qualified to be handling uncooked or pre-cooked foodstuffs. A permit is free, however a 3% profit tax will be charged to the vendor at the end of each month. In the event that all the permits are taken, the applicant can be put on a waiting list.

Section 2: Food Quality

A vendor selling food is completly liable for any illnesses or adverse effects their food may cause, however in the event of an allergy being triggered neither buyer or vendor are liable if the vendor provided adequate allergy warnings. Local authorities are to be responsible for making sure Food Vendors follow health and safety guidelines.


I'm aware of the concerns about the actual importance to this act. However this act was drafted with the goal of providing a substantial amount of jobs to low-skilled citizens who are otherwise unable to find other forms of employment.

You misspelled restaurant.


Noted + Fixed
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Postby Ainin » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:51 pm

Liberated Counties wrote:
Ainin wrote:You misspelled restaurant.


Noted + Fixed

Oh, and it's supposed to be in the plural form, because it refers to restaurants as a group.

Sorry for the grammar Nazism.
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Postby Liberated Counties » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:54 pm

Ainin wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
Noted + Fixed

Oh, and it's supposed to be in the plural form, because it refers to restaurants as a group.

Sorry for the grammar Nazism.


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Postby Strykla » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:57 pm

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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:00 pm

VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 66
Against: 32
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 81
Against: 17
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 74
Against: 26
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 48
Against: 53
Abstain: 5
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:20 pm

Limiting Legislation Act: Aye

Secular State Act: Aye

International Law Act: Nay

Worker Empowerment Act: NAY!!!


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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:21 pm

VOTE COUNT
Voting ends 2013/06/08 at 04:15 UTC (24 hour time format guys)

Limiting Legislation Act
For: 66
Against: 32
Abstain: 3


Secular State Act
For: 81
Against: 17
Abstain: 4


International Law Act
For: 74
Against: 27
Abstain: 2


Worker Empowerment Act
For: 48
Against: 54
Abstain: 5
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