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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:30 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Ainin wrote:Here you go:


There's nothing in the spoiler.

It screwed up. I have no idea what happened...
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:31 pm

Ainin wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
There's nothing in the spoiler.

It screwed up. I have no idea what happened...

It doesn't seem like anything was typed in the spoiler. That's the problem.
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Postby Aeken » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:32 pm

Honorable Senators, it was my honor serving with you, and more importantly for the people of our grand nation. But it pains me to say that due to these turbulent circumstances, I hesitantly resign from office. I now appoint President Wolfmanne as the president of our nation. I wish you all the best in the future. I will return when I can.

- Former President Cornelius Aeken

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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:32 pm

A reminder to all of you to keep the discussion civil, especially those of you that have a history within this Senate's disciplinary system. Nothing actionable yet, but I see a possible derailment if things don't shape up.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:34 pm

Geilinor wrote:Aye: Limiting Legislation Act
Aye: Secular State Act
Aye: International Law Act
Nay: Worker Empowerment Act

Voting hasn't started yet.

And my LLA amendment still needs two more seconds.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:34 pm

How many seconds are needed for amendments? 5 or 7?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:39 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:How many seconds are needed for amendments? 5 or 7?

What is your motion?
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:39 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:How many seconds are needed for amendments? 5 or 7?

7. Also sent you a TG, please read.

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Postby Othelos » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:40 pm

Aeken wrote:Honorable Senators, it was my honor serving with you, and more importantly for the people of our grand nation. But it pains me to say that due to these turbulent circumstances, I hesitantly resign from office. I now appoint President Wolfmanne as the president of our nation. I wish you all the best in the future. I will return when I can.

- Former President Cornelius Aeken

Wait, what circumstances?

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Postby Ainin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:44 pm

Othelos wrote:
Aeken wrote:Honorable Senators, it was my honor serving with you, and more importantly for the people of our grand nation. But it pains me to say that due to these turbulent circumstances, I hesitantly resign from office. I now appoint President Wolfmanne as the president of our nation. I wish you all the best in the future. I will return when I can.

- Former President Cornelius Aeken

Wait, what circumstances?

Bomb?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:45 pm

Othelos wrote:
Aeken wrote:Honorable Senators, it was my honor serving with you, and more importantly for the people of our grand nation. But it pains me to say that due to these turbulent circumstances, I hesitantly resign from office. I now appoint President Wolfmanne as the president of our nation. I wish you all the best in the future. I will return when I can.

- Former President Cornelius Aeken

Wait, what circumstances?

Real life if i had to guess
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:45 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:How many seconds are needed for amendments? 5 or 7?

What is your motion?

Remove the list of firearms restrictions from the LLA to be dealt with in future bills. It has been fifthed and needs two more.
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Postby Ainin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:46 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ainin wrote:It screwed up. I have no idea what happened...

It doesn't seem like anything was typed in the spoiler. That's the problem.

I know. I typed stuff but it apparently didn't save any of it...
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:46 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:What is your motion?

Remove the list of firearms restrictions from the LLA to be dealt with in future bills. It has been fifthed and needs two more.

Sixthed
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:47 pm

Othelos wrote:
Aeken wrote:Honorable Senators, it was my honor serving with you, and more importantly for the people of our grand nation. But it pains me to say that due to these turbulent circumstances, I hesitantly resign from office. I now appoint President Wolfmanne as the president of our nation. I wish you all the best in the future. I will return when I can.

- Former President Cornelius Aeken

Wait, what circumstances?

OOC circumstances.

Also, the administration team is in OOC discussion about how to proceed, as well as IC discussion with President Aeken to have things go clearly. We'd like to ask you at this time to not speculate, guess, or worry about what will happen, because the administration is on top of this and will find you a solution shortly.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:50 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Remove the list of firearms restrictions from the LLA to be dealt with in future bills. It has been fifthed and needs two more.

Sixthed

Just one more to go!
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:53 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Sixthed

Just one more to go!

seventhed!
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Postby Torsiedelle » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:54 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Sixthed

Just one more to go!


I'll seventh it. Seven IS the lucky number!

I'm rambling.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:54 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Just one more to go!

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
seventhed!

Okay. Amendment motion passed. Give me a minute while I edit the LLA and post it here, then I'll motion to close debate if no one else has anything they want done first.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:57 pm

Anyone got a link to the most recent version of the LLA?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:05 pm

Here is the updated version of the LLA, edited to reflect the amendment:

Limiting Legislation Act
Urgency: Utmost


Drafted By: The Treorai
Sponsor(s): Hathradic States, Beta Test.



BELIEVING That in a democratic society, Basic Human Rights should be defended,

APPALLED At the fact that some politicians would seek to violate the basic human rights of the citizens of our nation,

DEFINES A "Citizen" as any registered member of our nation.

FURTHER DEFINES Basic Human Rights As;

(1) The right for all born humans to live,

(2) The right to free speech,

(3) The right to free thought,

(4) The right to actively participate in government

(5) The right to free expression,

(6) Freedom of and from Religion,

(7) The right to own, trade, and produce firearms and ammunition, as well as use them in situations deemed as necessary self defense, in recreational practice against inanimate objects, and when hunting wild animals for game, food or sport,
(a) Allows this senate to place reasonable restrictions on firearms


(8) The right to a fair and balanced trial,

(9) The right to a paid or court appointed attorney in the court of law,

(11) No one can be deprived of property, unless demanded by public necessity, legally constituted, and under the condition of a just and prior compensation,

(12) Freedom from unjustified search and seizure of private property,

FURTHER BELIEVES That the Senate has no place violating these aforementioned rights of our citizens,

PREVENTS Legislation changing, suppressing, or otherwise tampering with these human rights,

DENIES Rights (4) and (7) to those who have been previously incarcerated,

DICTATES No Person is above the law, and all people must adhere to it,

FURTHER DICTATES Speech and Written Material harmful in nature are not protected by this act,

ALSO DEFINES "Harmful in nature" as slander, personal information not belonging to they who utter the information, sensitive information, open threats against another person, and threats of open rebellion, or terrorism against our nation.

ALSO DICTATES This act does not protect those using other people's work without permission of the owner,

BANS Slavery, and other forms of non-paid labor, such as Child Labor, and the owning of human beings,

ESTABLISHES This as the official Bill of Rights of our Nation.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:06 pm

I move to end debate and begin the voting period.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:16 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I move to end debate and begin the voting period.

Anyone?
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Postby Gothmogs » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:23 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I move to end debate and begin the voting period.

Anyone?

I second this motion.
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Postby Maryginia » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:27 pm

Gothmogs wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Anyone?

I second this motion.

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