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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 4:47 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.

He's not an official queue maker, he can stop doing the queue whenever he wants or he can do whatever he wants with it.

As can anybody else - because there isn't an official queue maker. That said, I think the senate should decide the order of the queue. We've missed a significant number of resolutions in the past because somebody either purposefully or accidentally neglected to add them to the queue.

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Postby Othelos » Tue May 21, 2013 4:47 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?


Just add it to the queue. My patience is growing thin. Do your damned job or you will face action.

If I were you, I'd add them myself, since he's being obnoxious.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:47 pm

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The Treorai wrote:Ohhhh! So he is allowed to imply that I am gay, but I can't say that I despise him? This makes perfect sense! Thank you, always so dependable administrative staff.

That's why I said "both of you".

Two wrongs don't make a right, and seriously, you both need to calm down.


Um, I was just having a bill I co-drafted added to the queue. He is refusing because he dislikes me. I don't see how I'm inflaming the situation here by insisting that the bill (which I have had motioned and passed and made multiple requests to be added to the queue) should be added in line with all the other non-heretic-drafted legislation.

Really is a simple request. I'm not trying to make an argument out of it.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:He's not an official queue maker, he can stop doing the queue whenever he wants or he can do whatever he wants with it.


And therefore, that gives him a carte blanche to do whatever he wants to people based on personal bias?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue May 21, 2013 4:48 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:That's why I said "both of you".

Two wrongs don't make a right, and seriously, you both need to calm down.


Um, I was just having a bill I co-drafted added to the queue. He is refusing because he dislikes me. I don't see how I'm inflaming the situation here by insisting that the bill (which I have had motioned and passed and made multiple requests to be added to the queue) should be added in line with all the other non-heretic-drafted legislation.

I was referring to you calling him homosexual on the Lobby thread. That's not acceptable, and his response isn't acceptable either.
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:48 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:That's why I said "both of you".

Two wrongs don't make a right, and seriously, you both need to calm down.


Um, I was just having a bill I co-drafted added to the queue. He is refusing because he dislikes me. I don't see how I'm inflaming the situation here by insisting that the bill (which I have had motioned and passed and made multiple requests to be added to the queue) should be added in line with all the other non-heretic-drafted legislation.

Really is a simple request. I'm not trying to make an argument out of it.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:He's not an official queue maker, he can stop doing the queue whenever he wants or he can do whatever he wants with it.


And therefore, that gives him a carte blanche to do whatever he wants to people based on personal bias?

Then you do it then. Or, someone else could give me the link. I refuse to touch anything you have copy pasted with my cursor!
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:49 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I was referring to you calling him homosexual on the Lobby thread. That's not acceptable, and his response isn't acceptable either.


This isn't the lobby. Personal bias should be put aside.
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:50 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I was referring to you calling him homosexual on the Lobby thread. That's not acceptable, and his response isn't acceptable either.


This isn't the lobby. Personal bias should be put aside.

*Snorts*
That's rich from the guy who, just a few minutes ago, expressed his hope that I get shoveled out of here like rubbish.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

The Treorai wrote:Then you do it then. Or, someone else could give me the link. I refuse to touch anything you have copy pasted with my cursor!


You've done it for me. Thank you, senator.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
This isn't the lobby. Personal bias should be put aside.

*Snorts*
That's rich from the guy who, just a few minutes ago, expressed his hope that I get shoveled out of here like rubbish.

Seriously, stop it. Now.
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Postby Othelos » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

Take the personal dispute elsewhere, this thread should only be used for the purpose of voting on the SLA. Thank you.

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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Treorai wrote:*Snorts*
That's rich from the guy who, just a few minutes ago, expressed his hope that I get shoveled out of here like rubbish.

Seriously, stop it. Now.

It's funny because the bill has been in queue for, like, ten minutes while he sat there demanding it was put in.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Othelos » Tue May 21, 2013 4:52 pm

Current Vote Tally of the SLA:

Yea: 1 (4%)
Nay: 24 (96%)

Total votes: 25

6 Abstentions registered


The voting period will end May 23 at 12:32 PM EDT.
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Provisional Criminal Code

Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 4:54 pm

I'm adding this resolution to the queue since it appears that the government has yet to address the problem of murder.

Provisional Criminal Code


Urgency: Very High

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: Costa Alegria, The Realm of God, Othelos





The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:
Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional or impulsive killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years; additionally, this infraction shall include all sexual acts of behaviors directed towards individuals under the age of fourteen

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, defined as any images or words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they might conceivably suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through means other than guile

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's or a state's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question


MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice; as legislation is enacted to address specific infractions, portions of this resolution may be considered severable

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:56 pm

Evraim wrote:I'm adding this resolution to the queue since it appears that the government has yet to address the problem of murder.

Provisional Criminal Code


Urgency: Very High

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: TBA





The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:
Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional or impulsive killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years; additionally, this infraction shall include all sexual acts of behaviors directed towards individuals under the age of fourteen

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, defined as any images or words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they might conceivably suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through means other than guile

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's or a state's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question


MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE


Isn't it supposed to have co-sponsors?
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Postby Britcan » Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 pm

Evraim wrote:I'm adding this resolution to the queue since it appears that the government has yet to address the problem of murder.

Provisional Criminal Code


Urgency: Very High

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: TBA





The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:
Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional or impulsive killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years; additionally, this infraction shall include all sexual acts of behaviors directed towards individuals under the age of fourteen

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, defined as any images or words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they might conceivably suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through means other than guile

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's or a state's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question


MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE

I think the age of consent should be lowered from that. Other than that it looks good from my quick read through.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue May 21, 2013 4:59 pm

Britcan wrote:
Evraim wrote:I'm adding this resolution to the queue since it appears that the government has yet to address the problem of murder.

Provisional Criminal Code


Urgency: Very High

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: TBA





The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:
Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional or impulsive killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years; additionally, this infraction shall include all sexual acts of behaviors directed towards individuals under the age of fourteen

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, defined as any images or words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they might conceivably suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through means other than guile

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's or a state's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question


MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE

I think the age of consent should be lowered from that. Other than that it looks good from my quick read through.

Indefinite detention gets a no vote from me.
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Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 5:00 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Britcan wrote:I think the age of consent should be lowered from that. Other than that it looks good from my quick read through.

Indefinite detention gets a no vote from me.

Discuss this in another thread, please. This thread is supposed to focus on the queue and present legislation. Not debates on pending legislation.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue May 21, 2013 5:00 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Evraim wrote:I'm adding this resolution to the queue since it appears that the government has yet to address the problem of murder.

Provisional Criminal Code


Urgency: Very High

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: TBA





The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:
Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional or impulsive killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years; additionally, this infraction shall include all sexual acts of behaviors directed towards individuals under the age of fourteen

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, defined as any images or words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they might conceivably suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through means other than guile

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's or a state's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question


MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE


Isn't it supposed to have co-sponsors?


I was under impression it needed several to be added to line up.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Britcan wrote:I think the age of consent should be lowered from that. Other than that it looks good from my quick read through.

Indefinite detention gets a no vote from me.


As a punishment or until the accused is tried?
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 5:02 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Isn't it supposed to have co-sponsors?


I was under impression it needed several to be added to line up.


I thought so too. Five is the necessary minimum from experience. Does the senator proposing this bill have co-sponsors?
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Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 5:03 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:As a punishment or until the accused is tried?

Until trial. It's an incentive to actually create a viable justice system. I wanted to light a fire under the Senate's feet because MURDER IS STILL LEGAL.

Anyhow, back to the subject at hand.

Current Vote Tally of the SLA:

Yea: 1 (4.00%)
Nay: 24 (96.00%)

Total votes: 25

6 Abstentions registered


The voting period will end May 23 at 12:32 PM EDT.


The Treorai wrote:You forgot the dots beside the number. I was about to do that anyways. Also, The ISA was already in queue.

Fixed.
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Evraim wrote:Until trial. It's an incentive to actually create a viable justice system. I wanted to light a fire under the Senate's feet because MURDER IS STILL LEGAL.

Anyhow, back to the subject at hand.


One final question: does your bill have co-sponsors?
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Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 5:05 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Evraim wrote:Until trial. It's an incentive to actually create a viable justice system. I wanted to light a fire under the Senate's feet because MURDER IS STILL LEGAL.

Anyhow, back to the subject at hand.


One final question: does your bill have co-sponsors?

Yes. I'll need new ones though... I'll submit in the PCP thread.

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