NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 3

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

FBA: NAY
EDA: AYE
CBOA: AYE
ARSP-2013: NAY
RMCMA: AYE
MPA: AYE
RWA: NAY
RGA: AYE
NTA: AYE
PWCA: AYE
FEISM: AYE
PRFA: AYE
PCSA: AYE
FVA: ABSTAIN

[Finium]

RCMA Nay
FBA Yea
MPA Nay
PRFA Yea
EDA Nay
PCSA Nay
FEISM Nay
CBOA Nay
PWCA Nay
NTA Yea
RWA Yea
FVA Yea
RGA Yea
Budget Yea

[Yanalia]

RMCMA
16 for
7 against
4 abstain

FBA
12 for
13 against
2 abstain

MPA
21 for
4 against
2 abstain

PFRFA
18 for
3 against
3 abstain

EDA
12 for
14 against
1 abstain

PCSA
8 for
5 against
10 abstain

FEISMA
18 for
2 against
4 abstain

CBOA
18 for
6 against
3 abstain

PWCA
16 for
5 against
3 abstain

NTA
12 for
12 against
1 abstain

RWA
8 for
17 against
1 abstain

FVA
13 for
5 against
6 abstain

RGA
20 for
3 against
4 abstain

ARSP
10 for
15 against
2 abstain

[Royalsoldiers]

Deputy Minister Nicholas James Alford of the Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise votes as follows:

• RMCMA-Nay
• FBA-Yay
• MPA-Abstain
• PFRFA-Yay
• EDA-Nay
• PCSA-Nay
• FEISMA-Nay [Nothing is Free]
• CBOA-Nay
• PWCA-Nay
• NTA-Nay
• RWA-Yay
• FVA-Yay
• RGA-Yay
• ARSP of 2013-Yay [I worked on that]

[Free South Califas]

I am also voting for Battlion in this vote:

[snip]

OOC:
Voting began at 2:15 PM Sun Aug 04, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles); in the quoted post.

Voting will last 48 hours and end at 2:15 PM Mon Aug 06, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles). http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=137

If anyone wants to post an IC timer, it should be in CET (Brussels time).

[Prussia-Steinbach]

RCMA Nay
FBA Yea
MPA Nay
PRFA Yea
EDA Nay
PCSA Nay
FEISM Nay
CBOA Nay
PWCA Nay
NTA Yea
RWA Yea
FVA Yea
RGA Yea

[Chelta]

RMCMA: Nay
FBA: AYE
MPA: AYE
PFRFA: AYE
EDA: NAY
PCSA: NAY
FEISMA: NAY
CBOA: NAY
PWCA: NAY
NTA: NAY
RWA: AYE
FVA: NAY
RGA: AYE
ARSP: AYE

[Free South Califas]

OOC:
Voting began at 2:15 PM Sun Aug 04, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles); in the quoted post.

Voting will last 48 hours and end at 2:15 PM Mon Aug 06, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles). http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=137

If anyone wants to post an IC timer, it should be in CET (Brussels time).

IC: Vote count is current up to Chelta

RMCMA
17 for - one more than Yanalia's count
10 against
4 abstain

FBA
15 for
13 against
2 abstain

MPA
22 for
5 against
3 abstain

PFRFA
21 for
3 against
3 abstain

EDA
12 for
17 against
1 abstain

PCSA
8 for
8 against
10 abstain

FEISMA
19 for
4 against
4 abstain

CBOA
19 for - 1 more than Yanalia's count
9 against
3 abstain

PWCA
16 for
8 against
3 abstain

NTA
13 for
14 against
1 abstain

RWA
12 for - one more than Yanalia's count
17 against
1 abstain

FVA
15 for
6 against
6 abstain

RGA
22 for
3 against
4 abstain

ARSP
12 for
14 against
2 abstain

My count was different up to Yanalia's. We will have to see if that makes a difference in the results.

[Free South Califas]

FBA: Against
EDA: For
CBOA: For
RWA: Nay
ARSP-2013: Nay
RMCMA: For
MPA: For
RGA: For

I think that's all of them.

There's also PFRFA, PCSA, FEISMA, PWCA, NTA, FVA. It's a boatload of bills for sure. See the first page of the thread; Business & Finance omnibus, highlighted in blue.

[Yanalia]

Glad to see you don't trust my count.

I'll go re-check it.

[Yanalia]

I recounted those three acts since your last count, and I think my count was correct.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I recounted those three acts since your last count, and I think my count was correct.

VOTER FRAUD

THANKS OBAMA

IT'S ACORN ALL OVER AGAIN

[Free South Califas]

I recounted those three acts since your last count, and I think my count was correct.

Fair enough, the next count should subtract one from each of the bills where my count says it has one more than yours. Nothing personal, sorry, surely you've noticed I can be a touch obsessive and detached

ETA - OOC - Just so you know what my process was, I didn't discover your votes and then re-count; I counted up from the first unread post. I must have counted them wrong earlier, though.

[Yanalia]

I recounted those three acts since your last count, and I think my count was correct.

Fair enough, the next count should subtract one from each of the bills where my count says it has one more than yours. Nothing personal, sorry, surely you've noticed I can be a touch obsessive and detached

Sure, none taken.

[The Nihilistic view]

OOC:
Voting began at 2:15 PM Sun Aug 04, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles); in the quoted post.

Voting will last 48 hours and end at 2:15 PM Mon Aug 06, 2013; PDT (Los Angeles). http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=137

Pretty sure 48 hours from 2:15 pm Sunday makes the vote over on Tuesday mate. Not Monday. Unless this is a metaphor?

[The IASM]

- Repeal Most of the Commerce Ministry Act: Nay
-Fair Business Act: Aye
- Military Pensions Act: Aye
- Protection from Religious Fraud Act: Abstain
- Economic Democratisation Act: Nay
- Participatory Consumption Systems Act: Aye
- Free Education for Innovative Self-Management: Abstain
- Collective Benefit Option Act: Nay
- Public Work Centre Act: Aye
- National Tariff: Aye
- Reasonable Wage Act: Nay
- Food Vendor Act: Aye
- Responsible Government Act: Aye
- Aurentine Revenue and Spending Plans for 2013: Aye

[Malgrave]

- Repeal Most of the Commerce Ministry Act: Aye
-Fair Business Act: Nay (It's language is offensive)
- Military Pensions Act: Aye
- Protection from Religious Fraud Act: Abstain
- Economic Democratisation Act: Aye
- Participatory Consumption Systems Act: Aye
- Free Education for Innovative Self-Management: Aye (incredible bill FSC)
- Collective Benefit Option Act: Abstain
- Public Work Centre Act: Aye
- National Tariff: Aye
- Reasonable Wage Act: Nay
- Food Vendor Act: Abstain
- Responsible Government Act: Aye
- Aurentine Revenue and Spending Plans for 2013: Nay

[Beta Test]

Alright, enough about deportations. The following bills are at debate, either for 53 minutes or, if the current motion gains 4 more Senators, 24 hours and 53 minutes.

Business & Finance
To deal with issues pertinent to the Work, Commerce, and Treasury ministries
CURRENTLY AT DEBATE

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- Repeal Most of the Commerce Ministry Act
-Fair Business Act
- Military Pensions Act
- Protection from Religious Fraud Act
- Economic Democratisation Act
- Participatory Consumption Systems Act
- Free Education for Innovative Self-Management
- Collective Benefit Option Act
- Public Work Centre Act
- National Tariff
- Reasonable Wage Act
- Food Vendor Act
- Responsible Government Act
- Aurentine Revenue and Spending Plans for 2013

I'm quoting this because it has a list. So many bills.

RMCMA: Aye
FBA:Aye
MPA:Aye
PFRFA:Aye
EDA:Nay
PCSA:Aye
FEISM:Aye
CBOA:Aye
PWCA:Aye
NT:Aye
RWA:Nay
FVA:Aye
RGA:Aye
Budget:Aye

[Zokoria]

Repeal Most of CMA: ABSTAIN
FBA: NAY
MPA: AYE
PRFA: AYE
EDA: NAY
PCSA: ABSTAIN
FEISM: AYE
CBOA: AYE
PWCA: AYE
NTA: NAY
RWA: NAY
FVA: AYE
RGA: AYE
ARSP-2013: NAY

[Osea 767]

- Repeal Most of the Commerce Ministry Act: Aye
- Fair Business Act: Nay
- Military Pensions Act: Aye
- Protection from Religious Fraud Act: Nay
- Economic Democratisation Act: Aye
- Participatory Consumption Systems Act: Aye
- Free Education for Innovative Self-Management: Aye
- Collective Benefit Option Act: Aye
- Public Work Centre Act: Aye
- National Tariff: Aye
- Reasonable Wage Act: Nay
- Food Vendor Act: Nay
- Responsible Government Act: Aye
- Aurentine Revenue and Spending Plans for 2013: Nay

[Glasgia]

Repeal Most of the CMA: FOR
Fair Business Act: AGAINST
Military Pensions Act: FOR
Protection From Religious Fraud Act: FOR
Economic Democratisation Act: FOR
Particapatory Consumption Systems Act: FOR
Free Education for Innovative Self-Management Act: FOR
Collective Benefit Option Act: FOR
Public Work Centre Act: FOR
National Tariff Act: AGAINST
Reasonable Wage Act: AGAINST
Food Vendors Act: FOR
Responsible Government Act: FOR
Aurentine Revenue and Spending Plans For 2013: ABSTAIN

NTA Yea

I would like to note the ignorance of our Minister of Foreign Affairs by voting for this act. Though he has stated he would support free trade with Europe and wants to co-operate economically with many nations - including India, Pakistan and Germany among others - he votes for an act that essentially outlaws the enactment of any trade agreement, with no clause exempting those who supposedly have a free trade agreement with Aurentina.

[Of the Quendi]

NAY to EDA.

[New Waterford]

RMCMA: Aye
FBA: Abstain
MPA: Aye
PRFA: Aye
EDA: Abstain
PCSA: Aye
FEISM: Aye
CBOA: Aye
PWCA: Aye
NT: Aye
RWA: Nay
FVA: Aye
RGA: Aye
ARSP '13: Aye

[Finium]

NTA Yea

I would like to note the ignorance of our Minister of Foreign Affairs by voting for this act. Though he has stated he would support free trade with Europe and wants to co-operate economically with many nations - including India, Pakistan and Germany among others - he votes for an act that essentially outlaws the enactment of any trade agreement, with no clause exempting those who supposedly have a free trade agreement with Aurentina.

I would like to note the sheer ridiculousness of this statement from the Shadow Minister of Foriegn Affairs. In order for free trade agreements to valuable, there must first be a lack thereof. As a consequence of this bill, new legislation will be introduced for each treaty ratification, this will allow the Senate proper oversight in the working of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is correct, we do wish for free trade with a select number of nations, but we do not want free trade with all nations, hence the NTA, which allows us to be selective in our partners.

Please also note that practically every nation in the world practices selective free trade rather than refusing to create protective tariffs in the name of economic cooperation with everyone. Everyone is not our ally and therefore, everyone will not be allowed to practice free trade.

[Glasgia]

I would like to note the ignorance of our Minister of Foreign Affairs by voting for this act. Though he has stated he would support free trade with Europe and wants to co-operate economically with many nations - including India, Pakistan and Germany among others - he votes for an act that essentially outlaws the enactment of any trade agreement, with no clause exempting those who supposedly have a free trade agreement with Aurentina.

I would like to note the sheer ridiculousness of this statement from the Shadow Minister of Foriegn Affairs. In order for free trade agreements to valuable, there must first be a lack thereof. As a consequence of this bill, new legislation will be introduced for each treaty ratification, this will allow the Senate proper oversight in the working of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is correct, we do wish for free trade with a select number of nations, but we do not want free trade with all nations, hence the NTA, which allows us to be selective in our partners.

Please also note that practically every nation in the world practices selective free trade rather than refusing to create protective tariffs in the name of economic cooperation with everyone. Everyone is not our ally and therefore, everyone will not be allowed to practice free trade.

No, you misunderstand me. I support the enactment of minimal tariffs in Aurentina, as to able to be selective as you say and give the Aurentine market an edge in business. However, in the act there is no exemption for those who have signed trade agreements with us. That means that if we enforce the act, then we can not truly trade freely even if we have made treaties.