by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:59 pm
by Galloism » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Galloism wrote:I hate to be that guy, but can we get a source that's not a video?
by Vassenor » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:05 pm
Satuga wrote:So not sure if everyone knows, and there clearly isn't a discussion on here about this yet, but the general gist is the FTC is currently going to implement a system in which they can fine content creators on youtube for basically not being kid friendly, and what's even worse is their reasoning are so vague and out dated that one of their policies for being kid friendly is the use of the terms "cool" and "fun". No I'm not kidding. I'm probably not explaining it the best so here's Jim Sterling discussing if you wan't to get into it more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OBGfbSk_HE
by Holy Marsh » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:05 pm
by Galloism » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:06 pm
Satuga wrote:Galloism wrote:I hate to be that guy, but can we get a source that's not a video?
Ofc, https://nerdist.com/article/youtube-ftc-kids-content-creators-demonetize/
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/protecting-consumer-privacy-security/kids-privacy-coppa
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/09/google-youtube-will-pay-record-170-million-alleged-violations
Edit: another one for ya https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/13/20963459/youtube-google-coppa-ftc-fine-settlement-youtubers-new-rules
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:06 pm
Vassenor wrote:
Yeah you've kind of misrepresented it. Basically YouTube was informed they weren't complying with an online privacy law that predates the site by almost a decade. Rather than stop harvesting data, YouTube simply decided to pull anything that could be considered "data collection" from any content that could be aimed at children under 13, unless the content uploader tells them it's definitely not aimed at said demographic.
And for all the talk of vagueness, the FTC isn't an algorithm. They're not going to be fining people just for using "kid friendly" language in a video that blatantly isn't supposed to be.
by Vassenor » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:08 pm
Satuga wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Yeah you've kind of misrepresented it. Basically YouTube was informed they weren't complying with an online privacy law that predates the site by almost a decade. Rather than stop harvesting data, YouTube simply decided to pull anything that could be considered "data collection" from any content that could be aimed at children under 13, unless the content uploader tells them it's definitely not aimed at said demographic.
And for all the talk of vagueness, the FTC isn't an algorithm. They're not going to be fining people just for using "kid friendly" language in a video that blatantly isn't supposed to be.
They're going to have to go through millions of channels, do you really think they're not going to use an algorithm?
by Holy Marsh » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:08 pm
Satuga wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Yeah you've kind of misrepresented it. Basically YouTube was informed they weren't complying with an online privacy law that predates the site by almost a decade. Rather than stop harvesting data, YouTube simply decided to pull anything that could be considered "data collection" from any content that could be aimed at children under 13, unless the content uploader tells them it's definitely not aimed at said demographic.
And for all the talk of vagueness, the FTC isn't an algorithm. They're not going to be fining people just for using "kid friendly" language in a video that blatantly isn't supposed to be.
They're going to have to go through millions of channels, do you really think they're not going to use an algorithm?
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:09 pm
Holy Marsh wrote:OP, did you even listen to the video you linked? Because he addresses your more sensational claims.
by Holy Marsh » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:10 pm
Satuga wrote:Holy Marsh wrote:OP, did you even listen to the video you linked? Because he addresses your more sensational claims.
Actually, I didn't listen to Jim Stirling's, video I actually found out from TearOfGrace, however I do know TOG can exaggerate some so I knew Jimmy boy would be more calm and likely address some concerns yes, I will be looking at the video soon however still the discussion does apply.
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:12 pm
<---- grabbed from my phone. This is why I say they are likely going to use an algorithm.Satuga wrote:https://twitter.com/i/status/1197103979521593345
by Holy Marsh » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:13 pm
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:14 pm
Holy Marsh wrote:Satuga wrote:Actually, I didn't listen to Jim Stirling's, video I actually found out from TearOfGrace, however I do know TOG can exaggerate some so I knew Jimmy boy would be more calm and likely address some concerns yes, I will be looking at the video soon however still the discussion does apply.
Wait. So you linked a video in the OP and you didn't even watch it? You should do so soon, because he addresses your points.
by Ethel mermania » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:20 pm
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:25 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:data mining on minors is a very dark and underground issue as technically they have no ability to consent to such techniques.
by Lord Dominator » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:26 pm
by Vassenor » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
by Drongonia » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
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by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:36 pm
by Satuga » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:37 pm
Holy Marsh wrote:Satuga wrote:Actually, I didn't listen to Jim Stirling's, video I actually found out from TearOfGrace, however I do know TOG can exaggerate some so I knew Jimmy boy would be more calm and likely address some concerns yes, I will be looking at the video soon however still the discussion does apply.
Wait. So you linked a video in the OP and you didn't even watch it? You should do so soon, because he addresses your points.
by Vassenor » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:38 pm
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