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[Quebecshire]

No Fly Zone Declared Over Warzone Airspace

Warzone Airspace is now a no fly zone and invading forces will be shot down via banhammer if this is violated. Last night, The North Pacific Army went on a series of Warzone operations before parking in Warzone Airspace for a hold. Piling up to 11 endorsements from their initial successful 8, Sulenia and I quickly got to work assembling a six-region liberating force of over 30 people (thank you to everyone who participated <3). Running from four separate servers, our taskforce succeeded in having 29 nations update in the region, completely obliterating the pile present. Crisisies will be returned to the delegacy for major. I'd also like to give a huge shoutout to The Tirol Region who backup triggered in the LDF operations channels for the first time today and did absolutely perfectly! I'll keep the agendaposts concise for this one.

• Warzones are regions like any other. In case it wasn't clear already (1) (2), the LDF will enforce their legitimacy with force as necessary.
• When the region you're invading has "We have retaken the region with help from friends in Warzone Sandbox and The League. We are grateful to them!" plastered on the WFE, assume we will take liberating it personally because I'm petty as fuck.

Anyway, GGs to the NPA, they definitely seemed to have a solid one-org turnout for their initial hit.

LDF Participants

Consul Quebecshire (LDF trigger)
Colonel DinoNet
Sergeant Iandrul
Sergeant Paleocacher
Sergeant Zjaum
Private Preskovia
Private Ajakanistan
Reservist Komsomolotis
Reservist Kyrvon
Reservist The Tirol Region (LDF backup trigger)
Conscript Pasadamia

Participating Militaries

The League's Defense Forces
Thaempirial Army
The Free Nations Defense Association
The Union of Democratic States Armed Forces
The Ten-thousand Islands Treaty Organization
Legio Pacifica

[Madjack]

When the region you're invading has "We have retaken the region with help from friends in Warzone Sandbox and The League. We are grateful to them!" plastered on the WFE, assume we will take liberating it personally because I'm petty as fuck.

We knew you would - nice turnout and organisation.

Anyway, GGs to the NPA, they definitely seemed to have a solid one-org turnout for their initial hit.

Thank you! Tis just the beginning. Hoping to bring double figures at least to every op going forward.

[Affray]

Another excellent post! Glad to be friends with you all.

[Layem]

Another excellent post! Glad to be friends with you all.

I agree. Glad to see Sanctum and The League working together behind the scenes. Love to see UCR cooperation across the board. This is a huge win for Sanctum AND The League. Congrats!

[Venico]

Are...defenders getting moralistic about Warzones? The battlefields that the game created with the explicit intent of them being used for gameplay?

Holy hell, Marty what kind of future did you guys bring me to?

[Aurum Raider]

Are...defenders getting moralistic about Warzones

Just wait, I'm sure they'll start encouraging the warzones to work together and establish a defending league any day now.

[RiderSyl]

Are...defenders getting moralistic about Warzones

Just wait, I'm sure they'll start encouraging the warzones to work together and establish a defending league any day now.

"Warzone Defenderation"

[Mallorea and Riva]

Another excellent post! Glad to be friends with you all.

Another excellent post! Glad to be friends with you all.

I agree. Glad to see Sanctum and The League working together behind the scenes. Love to see UCR cooperation across the board. This is a huge win for Sanctum AND The League. Congrats!

So happy to see the league back in action! Much Love from Layem! Good luck! #bashthefash

Both of you can take a *** One Day Ban *** for the poorly disguised trolling/spamcruitment™ throughout that thread. Neither of you is fairing well from a moderation perspective, and going out of your way to pointlessly troll other players isn't doing much to help that - clean things up before the bans escalate to harsher punishments.

[Domais]

As a native of Warzone Airspace, I would like to thank you for liberating Warzone Airspace.

[Venico]

As a native of Warzone Airspace, I would like to thank you for liberating Warzone Airspace.

You wouldn't need to be thankful as often if you didn't set up your house on the gameplay equivalent of a weapons testing site. Overseer find you friend...

[Quebecshire]

We knew you would - nice turnout and organisation.

Thank you ~ Sulenia deserves just as much credit as I do, though! Great stuff all around, even if I lost a bunch of sleep for it.

Are...defenders getting moralistic about Warzones? The battlefields that the game created with the explicit intent of them being used for gameplay?

Holy hell, Marty what kind of future did you guys bring me to?

In the spirit of a genuine explanation instead of me just agendaposting and being snarky,

The answer, like most things, is "it's complicated". To answer for the LDF, yes. Our policy is to treat Warzones as any other region, generally speaking. Naturally organizations like Thaecia and Legio Pacific are not moralist towards Warzones (or defender to begin with) but we were happy to have their help, ideological barriers to working together for the good of the cause are cringe.

The new attitude towards Warzones has been the effective work of months, starting with the FNDA and LDF led a liberation of Warzone Europe in early November which was reported here. Then, during the sieges of Trovons a week or so later, when defenders were heading into the fourth siege and on our back foot, we kicked outreach up a notch. I went to the Warzones asking for help and they sent multiple liberators, and Warzone Sandbox in particular put in a lot of effort for it and we won the fourth siege.

Due to Warzone Sandbox's support of the liberation, my region, The League, constructed embassies with them and New Makasta and I planted nations in the region to use as border control alts. Fast forward to late December, LWU and TBH stage up about 40 people for a raid, and Makasta and I are sitting there ready on our border control nations and tank the raider points before they update, as reported on here. The following night we raid LWU's JP with some WZSB updaters as a little fun payback, shown here.

Warzone Sandbox and its affiliates have since been treaty allies to my region and major contributors to the cause. Specifically relevant to your warzone-moralism question is this announcement and its linked prohibition dispatches where my region purged (by unanimous vote on both counts) its platforms of LWU and TBH members in response to their invasion attempt. (Also not particularly relevant to the point but funny and probably crazy to you just coming back, but WZSB got runner up for GCR of the year at the 2021 GP awards).

In addition to Sandbox, some other Warzones have waded into defending, such as WZ Europe. Regrettably, that one got dunked on by TBH a bit ago, but TITO restored the native delegate and helped them back up.

One last bit of food for thought on the Warzone dynamic (and I guess raiding in general) I'll leave you with is this meme my friend Matthew the Man made,

Whew, that was a tangent.

As a native of Warzone Airspace, I would like to thank you for liberating Warzone Airspace.

No problem, all part of the job.

You wouldn't need to be thankful as often if you didn't set up your house on the gameplay equivalent of a weapons testing site. Overseer find you friend...

I bet you'd find yourself pleasantly surprised at the level of community in the Warzones! Personally, when someone is undertaking a particularly challenging task, like region building in a Warzone, I think it's pretty cool to help them out and support them rather than sit by if they get messed with, so I'm quite happy with the change in dynamic as a result of the work I and others have put in.

P.S. for some more info on Warzone regionbuilders, if you want it, check out this WA draft.

[South Asians]

Congrats on a successful op! I couldn't be there due to rl commitments but It is nice seeing another Warzone Liberated..

[Aurum Raider]

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While your genuine explanation is touching, you've built upon the assumption that you're going to receive anything but mockery regardless. The warzones are PVP zones, and you can laud the effort of those in them all you like. At the end of the day, they've built their kingdoms at the feet of active volcanoes.

Addressing the 'food for thought' you provided,
Pray tell, who is even left to be radicalized? Raiders have been nothing but "bullies kicking over sandcastles" for decades, and leaving you to have the run of the warzones is not going to make anyone like us more.

[Cristo Verde]

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While your genuine explanation is touching, you've built upon the assumption that you're going to receive anything but mockery regardless. The warzones are PVP zones, and you can laud the effort of those in them all you like. At the end of the day, they've built their kingdoms at the feet of active volcanoes.

Addressing the 'food for thought' you provided,
Pray tell, who is even left to be radicalized? Raiders have been nothing but "bullies kicking over sandcastles" for decades, and leaving you to have the run of the warzones is not going to make anyone like us more.

Not to mention how many *raiders* have a background of getting raided and saying "hm this seems fun," lol. CiC Red Back was a native who got raided!

[Quebecshire]

While your genuine explanation is touching, you've built upon the assumption that you're going to receive anything but mockery regardless. The warzones are PVP zones, and you can laud the effort of those in them all you like. At the end of the day, they've built their kingdoms at the feet of active volcanoes.

Mockery? Damn, I must be getting a lot of that and nothing else, I'm sure that's a reasonable conclusion to read from my report. I definitely haven't successfully organized two liberations of Warzones outside of Libcord (in case you're more out of touch than I thought, that's the main defender ops server), both ops including both defender and independent forces.

First thing's first. Nobody asked. I mean that sincerely, I (and probably others as well) could not care less about your opinion. Things in this game and their value are defined by the players who make use of them, not by whatever was running through admin's head in 2003.

Addressing the 'food for thought' you provided,
Pray tell, who is even left to be radicalized? Raiders have been nothing but "bullies kicking over sandcastles" for decades, and leaving you to have the run of the warzones is not going to make anyone like us more.

Do you want a list or something?

Trovons started sending whatever liberators they could first round after their raid and they founder flat out told me he'd drop his WAD spot to do it, at one vulnerable delegate has flat out told me "I don't intend to be delegate forever. I am going to step down one day; and when I do I'm going to make you teach me how to chase and defend.", and Warzone Europe send liberators after it was raided.

So yeah, the natives being turned defender are loving it here. There is example support to show that raiding creates some more defenders each go around.

[Eluvatar]

Things in this game and their value are defined by the players who make use of them, not by whatever was running through admin's head in 2003.

I'll have you know that Warzones were not running through admin's head in the halcyon days of 2003 as they were introduced in June 2004!

[Jean Rowe]

Things in this game and their value are defined by the players who make use of them, not by whatever was running through admin's head in 2003.

I'll have you know that Warzones were not running through admin's head in the halcyon days of 2003 as they were introduced in June 2004!

Actually, I'll have you know that Warzones were not introduced in June 2004 as they started being added a month earlier, on 18th May 2004!

[Malphe II]

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While your genuine explanation is touching, you've built upon the assumption that you're going to receive anything but mockery regardless. The warzones are PVP zones, and you can laud the effort of those in them all you like. At the end of the day, they've built their kingdoms at the feet of active volcanoes.

Addressing the 'food for thought' you provided,
Pray tell, who is even left to be radicalized? Raiders have been nothing but "bullies kicking over sandcastles" for decades, and leaving you to have the run of the warzones is not going to make anyone like us more.

Odd radicalisation argument aside, honestly I'm quite liking these developments. The Warzones are designed for R/D, but there also have to be actual communities to raid & defender opposition to keep raids in check for it to feel satisfying in that capacity. This feels like the warzones are actually fulfilling their intended role for the first time since I started playing!

[Eluvatar]

I'll have you know that Warzones were not running through admin's head in the halcyon days of 2003 as they were introduced in June 2004!

Actually, I'll have you know that Warzones were not introduced in June 2004 as they started being added a month earlier, on 18th May 2004!

Close enough for government admin work.

[One Small Island]

Odd radicalisation argument aside, honestly I'm quite liking these developments. The Warzones are designed for R/D, but there also have to be actual communities to raid & defender opposition to keep raids in check for it to feel satisfying in that capacity. This feels like the warzones are actually fulfilling their intended role for the first time since I started playing!

By and large this is the same argument I use everytime someone tries to argue that Warzones can't have natives or communities. It's the natives and communities that make warzones worth fighting over.

[Les Claypool]

I think it's fine if gameplayers want to treat Warzones like regular regions and defend them. But, I do think it should be expected to have some interruptions from time to time. Given their nature it's not a big deal. What is more a travesty is when GCRs or other regions decided to occupy them as if it's theirs. Raiders won't bother to occupy them if raided, unless it's for practice or wargames. The others however would, and have done so before.

[Malphe II]

Odd radicalisation argument aside, honestly I'm quite liking these developments. The Warzones are designed for R/D, but there also have to be actual communities to raid & defender opposition to keep raids in check for it to feel satisfying in that capacity. This feels like the warzones are actually fulfilling their intended role for the first time since I started playing!

By and large this is the same argument I use everytime someone tries to argue that Warzones can't have natives or communities. It's the natives and communities that make warzones worth fighting over.

Agreed, I lowkey hadn't noticed how big & well supported all of the warzones save Africa & Europe seem to be now. I've previously put some of my time & effort into building them up, I'll be interested to see how they're developing as a unique element of the game's ecosystem.

I think it's fine if gameplayers want to treat Warzones like regular regions and defend them. But, I do think it should be expected to have some interruptions from time to time. Given their nature it's not a big deal. What is more a travesty is when GCRs or other regions decided to occupy them as if it's theirs. Raiders won't bother to occupy them if raided, unless it's for practice or wargames. The others however would, and have done so before.

That's definitely understood, Warzone communities have always thrived off fluidity & durability. Should be especially easy now that it appears at least Sandbox & Australia are cooperating closely without one of them appearing any smaller or less secure than the other + active defender support for liberations against any long term occupations.

[Glaciosia]

What I seem to be getting from this is that my position that its okay to raid warzones as long as it is funny may not hold up in the broader defender community...

[Autism Storm]

No fly zone? Lol

[The Tirol Region]

The League Monthly Foreign Report
March 2022

Produced on behalf of the Republic of The League by the Department of Foreign Affairs

General Foreign Affairs Report
Authored by The Tirol Region.

Regarding topics about foreign affairs since 1 February 2021:

Spode Humbled Minions stepped down as Director of Foreign Affairs and The Tirol Region was selected as his replacement. There have been a number of reassignments of ambassadors which may be viewed here.

The Director of Foreign Affairs at the time of this report is The Tirol Region.

The League's Defense Forces Foreign Report
Authored by Quebecshire

Throughout February/since our last report, The League's Defense Forces have continued maintaining and active presence. The most well known activity performed was our attempts in the sieges of The Mystical Council, a region which was unfortunately griefed largely by senseless invaders despite our best efforts. Despite this setback, we have had several other successful initiatives in the past month.

As discussed in an earlier report, we conducted a bilateral detagging run with The Union of Democratic States Armed Forces which was a successful operation for the both of us. Not long after, we led a liberation of Warzone Airspace with our allies from 10000 Islands, covered here

Lastly, the LDF has begun a new officer training process which will culminate in the development of a new rank in our current system, which will reported on in more depth in the future.

Consulate Foreign Report
Authored by Creeperopolis.

The second session of the XVI Council of the Republic began on 14 February.

The Tirol Region has been appointed as Director of Foreign Affair of The League, replacing Spode Humbled Minions. Spode accepted, after the fact, to be appointed to the position of “Executive Advisor” so that he can remain active in important government channels.

The Office of the Consulate at the time of this report is as follows,

Chief Consul Creeperopolis
Consul Quebecshire
Consul Paleocacher

Council Foreign Report
Due to special circumstances there is not a Council report this month, an instance which is unlikely to be repeated.