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United States of Americanas
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Postby United States of Americanas » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:54 am

Doesn’t this constitute a change in gameplay / increased obligation for WA leaders and therefore an illegal proposal under WA protocols?

I’m voting against this, unless Max himself starts handing out awards then even more WA badge hunting is not going to be accepted in my book.

Fat nope from me.
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Postby Indianaspratha » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:08 am

Tinhampton wrote:
GO AND VOTE
This proposal has been filed to the General Assembly Global Disarmament Board.
NOTE: at 0028 BST on the 27th of July 2021, this proposal reached quorum with The Chuck's approval, the 53rd all told.
NOTE 2: at 1837 BST on the 6th of August 2021, this proposal won its 106th approval - double the number required for quorum - from Tomisburg.

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Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: Eighteen Terran years ago, "United Nations Peace Prize" by Pax Romantica was defeated after receiving 5,672 votes in favour and 8,542 votes against - almost 40% support. Sixteen Terran years ago, "UN Peace prize" by the Republic of Freedonia was defeated after receiving 8,063 votes in favour to 8,811 votes against - almost 48% support. Thirteen Terran years ago, the World Assembly was created and no such proposal has had its day at vote since. Our delegation believes a resolution to ensure that those who have contributed greatly to intermultiversal peace are rewarded is long overdue.
Lydia Anderson, Assistant to the Delegate-Ambassador: I was told that the General Accounting Office could not afford anything more expensive than silver.

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World Assembly Peace Prize
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.
Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

Whereas all sapient rights are put in danger wherever unnecessary armed conflict occurs, the General Assembly hereby:
  1. establishes the World Assembly Peace Prize, hereinafter the Prize,
  2. tasks the WA Commission on Human Rights with:
    1. receiving nominations for the Prize from anyone who works as a head of state or government, legislator, or professor in any member state, in addition to any leaders of member state delegations to the World Assembly; and disregarding nominations with the effect of such individuals nominating themselves, their co-workers or their employer for the Prize,
    2. awarding the Prize each year to that person or group of people resident in any member state who has been nominated in accordance with Article b(i),
    3. basing its decision to award the Prize to any given person or group solely on whether, in its view, they have demonstrably contributed more than any other such person or group in the previous year to the resolution, without violence and with respect for all sapient rights protected by international law, of major conflicts between and within nations which involved or could have realistically involved large-scale acts of violence, and
    4. rewarding (each of) the winner(s) of the Prize in each year with a medallion containing one ounce of 99.9% pure silver and of one-and-a-half inch diameter, which shall have on its obverse the words "WA PEACE PRIZE - WITH PEACE COMES FREEDOM" surrounding the logo of the World Assembly, and on its reverse nothing,
  3. forbids members from confiscating any rewards bestowed upon Prize winners under Article b(iv) for any reason not enshrined by prior and standing international law, and
  4. encourages all members to refrain from organised armed conflict which is not necessary to prevent practices (such as terrorism, genocide, and other crimes against humanity) that threaten the achievement of all sapient rights.

Never this is madness I am against it

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Postby Sylh Alanor » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:27 am

Indianaspratha wrote:Never this is madness I am against it

"What, precisely, is madness about it?"
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Postby Reich Hungary » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:45 am

I ask him to remove the madman from the World Assembly of the country that makes this law, we will not agree to take our freedom to stop the discrimination in the World Assebly. And this is what I write about the law here, I will not link here what law gives the chosen law:

(1)
Declares its unwavering support for the LGBTQ community and the ideals of personal pride, celebrating diversity and individuality, as well as freedom of sexuality that it stands for, and promises to uphold and protect those principles to the best of this international body's ability


(2) The failure of the definition of “the accused”, resulting in all clauses regarding the accused to apply to acquitted individuals, due to the past tense of the clause possibly meaning “any person who has been charged in the past with a crime”

(3) Congratulates authors', and thanks voting states', improving quality of resolutions,

(4) Defines "honor-based violence" as an act of violence perpetrated against an individual by or at the direction of a relative or any other member of a community, due to the perception that the individual has brought shame or dishonor upon their family or community, or has otherwise violated an honor code !!!!

I voting AGAINST !
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Postby Kurogasa » Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:47 pm

Waldenes wrote:“Ambassadors I find the vote to be very disappointing thus far. This may seem frivolous at first but any incentive to encourage peace is just fine by us. Glorify peace over war. I think it is a good trend.”


Then make the Waldenes' peace prize, and have your government hand it out to nations. this should not be something the GA pays for.

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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:08 pm

United States of Americanas wrote:Doesn’t this constitute a change in gameplay / increased obligation for WA leaders and therefore an illegal proposal under WA protocols?

I’m voting against this, unless Max himself starts handing out awards then even more WA badge hunting is not going to be accepted in my book.

Fat nope from me.

What game changes does this introduce?
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:25 pm

Waldenes wrote:“Ambassadors I find the vote to be very disappointing thus far. This may seem frivolous at first but any incentive to encourage peace is just fine by us. Glorify peace over war. I think it is a good trend.”



"If it encouraged peace, that would be one thing. It does not encourage peace, it encourages the cessation of war. But in order to stop a war, you first have to start one. Any bloodthirsty bastard who gets tired of fighting is therefore eligible for this prize, no matter what tangential or collateral suffering he's caused. This is therefore worse than useless: it's a feel-good piece of smarm that doesn't incentivize true peace, nor disincentivize open warfare. We remain opposed, even in the face of more naive delegations' earnest and shrill pleas in favor."

See Tinfect's post in this thread, and my previous one: "that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag"1 Henry Kissinger won the RL Nobel Peace Prize, and that shit takes the cake. There appears to be no safeguard whatsoever against precisely that sort of thing happening here.

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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:04 pm

"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.

For: 5,748: Amerion (666), The Atlae Isles (546), Agalaesia (206), Duby (167), Thaelle (129), Lesser Velutaria (117), You Should See Me in a Crown (111), TESDAI (103), Bearded Dragones (88), The Salaxalans (68), New Scottsville (64), Enlais (64), Sylh Alanor (60), Brys questions (46), South Boston Irishmen (46), Dabberwocky (38), Hindu Puri (36), Noble Titans (30), Karteria (30), Yodle (29), Floyssauu (28), Lamerdon (28), Sanctaria (27), Orioni 2 (26), Sjevre (25), New Legland (24), NewTexas (24), Tinhampton (21), Castle Federation (20), Ioavollr (18), Oi Barbaroi (17), Nagistan (17), Fachumonn (16), Lunar Martian Alliance (15), Sirian (15), Ecclestia (15), Greater Cuba (14), Baloo Kingdom (13), J-O-E (12), The Hard Part (11), Conflagration City 5 (11), Ko-oren (10), The Free Northern Isles (10), Seludong (10), Taki Calxur (10), March of Maedhros (9), Federal republic of Socialsts (9), TheRuhr (9), Echidona (8), Olde Towne (7), The Traditional States (7), Orennica (7), Catrabania (7), Libertarian Communist Planets (6), Imperialist Bonaparte (6), Krovnik (6), Wagastan (6), The Scottish Republic (6), The Soviet state of Svalbard (6), Malgax (5), Krovx Luxembourg (5), Calamari Lands (5), Hetairaea (5), Wadelhelpia (5), Eastern Carpathian Free States (5), San Lumen (5), Crawlaysia (5), Omniabstracta (5), Hax Baba (5), Tianjastan (5), King Rankmore (5), Smiley Bob (4), Sunixia Catinia (4), San Teodoro de Haro (4), Socialist Amogus (4), Socruell (4), Terminum (4), Zhong-guo (4), Willtechia (4), Sweet Azure Skies (4), Reultan (4), Koxor (4), Jacobopolus (3), Dellettia (3), Fritzentein (3), Atcquatica (3), Baskya (3), The United Provinces of North America (3), The Soviet Union Republics (3), Montquebec (3), Islae (3), Kingdom of Derita (3), Pastries (3), Rokdoverstan (3), Fooger Booger (3), Ethwelistan (3), Chemung (3), Chiarje (3), Sandy gr (2), Zarnicovia nova (2), Heromerland (2), Antelen (2), Estamonia (2), Saganye (2), Kinben-ism (2), Italian Community (2), Zachtia (2), United Dependencies (2), The Ancient World (2), Misted Lake (2), Ashaie (2), Greater Eireann (2), Ravenstan (2), Suvmia (2), Nisasia (2), Sedgistan (2), Whitemore (2), Swideri (2), Eotheood (2), Agife (2), ErykCarrillo (2), Islands Of Ventro (2), The Eurasian SFSR (2), Raccquesi (2), Molopovia (2), New Deathland (2), Il Osoris (2), SindriaII (2), Pokegoblin78000 (2), President Pro Tempore (2), The Islands of Europe and the Americas (2), Horse Mythology (2), Funktropolis (2), Mittlemazigste (2), The Penguarians (2), Etoile Arcture (2), Tirnot (2), The Pirates of the West (2), Wakanda Reborn (2), Arkti (2), CrithDung (2), Ibarkla (2), Codainia (2), The Isles of Bermuda (2), Opalium (2), Duhhhmurica (2), Tomisburg (2), Hongli (2), Mrhallia (2), Chartania (2), Calcaterra (2), Neim (2), Erloane (2), Silver-Tree (2), Dracolia (2), Adinesi (2), Real Gamers (2), and (2,298) individual member nations.

Against: 6,733: Francois Isidore (937), Dilber (504), Imperium Anglorum (393), Wischland (322), North East Somerset (241), Luna State (173), Ruinenlust (119), Brototh (100), ShrewLlamaLand (94), Josephtan (62), The Glorious Hypetrain (60), Vancouvia (56), Nulkia (55), Mikeswill (45), Boris Cult (36), Candensia (35), Particle (33), Roma Sparta (32), Tostandia (26), Logar (23), Hulldom (21), Bassiliya (19), Calnodia (18), Suter (18), German Federal Reich (17), Martinilinian (16), Sheepiania (16), Cruciland (15), Ecolaria (12), Isaris (12), Zamastan (12), Azgoghk (11), Hajirah (11), Gatchina (11), Yafetistan (11), Aftenheim (10), Halcyon Nova (10), Candanadium (10), Otaku Stratus (9), Chodean Kal (9), Almerdonia (9), Princess Luna (9), Orca and Narwhal (9), The Voltarum (9), Vegaga (9), The Lonely Peak of a Forgotten Mountain (9), Lurusitania (8), The Reich of my People (8), Thee Imperium 0f Man (8), One Small Island (8), Golanchia (8), Axorian (8), GoodKingWenceslas (7), OmegaShenron (7), Norvew (7), Brocklandia (7), Killzone35 (7), El Varctica (7), The Regalian Underland (7), Pinochet Executionists (7), Aelythium (6), Lithuanian Ireland (6), Rogue River (6), Kustonia (6), Angry Saffron (6), Lost Village Mayohiga (6), Of The Glorious Soviet Onion (6), Voxija (5), The Sovereign Kingdom of Immobilia (5), ColdHeartedBastards (5), New Ziah (5), FORKTASTICSTAN (5), Lamoni (5), Minlask (5), New Delfos (5), Republic of Dixie (5), Ench Table (5), Yaxopsville (4), Frontier Isles (4), Andia Calla (4), Chap Ven (4), Wabacha (4), Barak Khalad (4), Greater Zhanland (4), Demokratische Volksrepublik Ozeanien (4), The Giantik (4), Eemeria (4), Cantabury (4), East overworld (4), Pharoahs Haven (4), SFR Philippines (4), Conservativealia (4), The Palentine (4), Dragons of Power (3), Loovo (3), Becciland (3), Flor-Fina (3), TexJeeps (3), Sietsk (3), Haruhi Japan (3), Dagnia (3), Matonis (3), Robotox Empire (3), Zombiedolphins (3), Ben Kenobi (3), Madrocea (3), Republic of Washinton (3), Talyang (3), Talthesia (3), Coronational Chechyans and affiliates (3), North Mack (3), The Neolithic German Empire (3), LeoBelgikus (3), IstanbulHasAids (3), Tsaivao (3), South Abrada (3), Chuliu Emperor (3), Herby (3), Rexcaeli (3), Nekomimea (3), Conollyland (2), United Lammunist Republic (2), Lacmhacarh (2), Nataanland (2), Union of Noovistian (2), The Awesome Niko islands (2), Oppy Gasai (2), Lehqhbraot (2), Sovyanka (2), Fsdh E (2), Greenkeep (2), Jarnvilja (2), South Otselic (2), Hometania (2), Zfhmpnaf (2), The Hazar Amisnery (2), Vipathe (2), Hakuri (2), Gonzlandia (2), Jennyvania (2), Hixoelop (2), Unified Democratic Europe (2), Romulus III (2), Beazlend (2), Playball758 (2), The Hermetic Order of The Baal (2), Nopengie (2), ANTRUN (2), Serene Peninsular Workers Republic (2), Knootoss (2), Santa Monica Order (2), North-West Commland (2), Central Protectorate of Alkoholi (2), Adeiatic (2), Tarlag (2), Wolflandil (2), Great Primrosia (2), Republic of Blank (2), The Anarchist Federation of Spain (2), Some People on Planet Arcadia (2), The Republic of Abe (2), Uralom (2), Yufjanciegglandraxei (2), Copristan (2), Scakulever (2), The Pop Punk Union (2), Lower Slobbovia (2), Imperiya Snezhnaya (2), Glorious Turkiye (2), Shnrubton (2), Snowy Town Island (2), Seramesh (2), Imperioa (2), SEAL-Team-6 (2), Arcerar (2), Melanocytes (2), Greater Lusong (2), Consigahria (2), Spaviland (2), Imperial Felchah (2), Erianu (2), Azbeksia (2), and (2,600) individual member nations.
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Postby Wayneactia » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:10 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.

If it didn't pass this time, what the hell makes you think it would pass on another try?
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Postby Tinfect » Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:49 pm

Wayneactia wrote:If it didn't pass this time, what the hell makes you think it would pass on another try?


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Presumably the fact that it garnered no small number of odd lemming votes and the simple fact that Tinhampton cannot simply let a bad idea die.
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Postby Kurogasa » Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:56 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.

If it didn't pass this time, what the hell makes you think it would pass on another try?


Probably hoping that now he will have more lobbying power to make delegates vote his way based on friendships instead of making a good proposal.

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Postby The Python » Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:20 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.

For: 5,748: Amerion (666), The Atlae Isles (546), Agalaesia (206), Duby (167), Thaelle (129), Lesser Velutaria (117), You Should See Me in a Crown (111), TESDAI (103), Bearded Dragones (88), The Salaxalans (68), New Scottsville (64), Enlais (64), Sylh Alanor (60), Brys questions (46), South Boston Irishmen (46), Dabberwocky (38), Hindu Puri (36), Noble Titans (30), Karteria (30), Yodle (29), Floyssauu (28), Lamerdon (28), Sanctaria (27), Orioni 2 (26), Sjevre (25), New Legland (24), NewTexas (24), Tinhampton (21), Castle Federation (20), Ioavollr (18), Oi Barbaroi (17), Nagistan (17), Fachumonn (16), Lunar Martian Alliance (15), Sirian (15), Ecclestia (15), Greater Cuba (14), Baloo Kingdom (13), J-O-E (12), The Hard Part (11), Conflagration City 5 (11), Ko-oren (10), The Free Northern Isles (10), Seludong (10), Taki Calxur (10), March of Maedhros (9), Federal republic of Socialsts (9), TheRuhr (9), Echidona (8), Olde Towne (7), The Traditional States (7), Orennica (7), Catrabania (7), Libertarian Communist Planets (6), Imperialist Bonaparte (6), Krovnik (6), Wagastan (6), The Scottish Republic (6), The Soviet state of Svalbard (6), Malgax (5), Krovx Luxembourg (5), Calamari Lands (5), Hetairaea (5), Wadelhelpia (5), Eastern Carpathian Free States (5), San Lumen (5), Crawlaysia (5), Omniabstracta (5), Hax Baba (5), Tianjastan (5), King Rankmore (5), Smiley Bob (4), Sunixia Catinia (4), San Teodoro de Haro (4), Socialist Amogus (4), Socruell (4), Terminum (4), Zhong-guo (4), Willtechia (4), Sweet Azure Skies (4), Reultan (4), Koxor (4), Jacobopolus (3), Dellettia (3), Fritzentein (3), Atcquatica (3), Baskya (3), The United Provinces of North America (3), The Soviet Union Republics (3), Montquebec (3), Islae (3), Kingdom of Derita (3), Pastries (3), Rokdoverstan (3), Fooger Booger (3), Ethwelistan (3), Chemung (3), Chiarje (3), Sandy gr (2), Zarnicovia nova (2), Heromerland (2), Antelen (2), Estamonia (2), Saganye (2), Kinben-ism (2), Italian Community (2), Zachtia (2), United Dependencies (2), The Ancient World (2), Misted Lake (2), Ashaie (2), Greater Eireann (2), Ravenstan (2), Suvmia (2), Nisasia (2), Sedgistan (2), Whitemore (2), Swideri (2), Eotheood (2), Agife (2), ErykCarrillo (2), Islands Of Ventro (2), The Eurasian SFSR (2), Raccquesi (2), Molopovia (2), New Deathland (2), Il Osoris (2), SindriaII (2), Pokegoblin78000 (2), President Pro Tempore (2), The Islands of Europe and the Americas (2), Horse Mythology (2), Funktropolis (2), Mittlemazigste (2), The Penguarians (2), Etoile Arcture (2), Tirnot (2), The Pirates of the West (2), Wakanda Reborn (2), Arkti (2), CrithDung (2), Ibarkla (2), Codainia (2), The Isles of Bermuda (2), Opalium (2), Duhhhmurica (2), Tomisburg (2), Hongli (2), Mrhallia (2), Chartania (2), Calcaterra (2), Neim (2), Erloane (2), Silver-Tree (2), Dracolia (2), Adinesi (2), Real Gamers (2), and (2,298) individual member nations.

Against: 6,733: Francois Isidore (937), Dilber (504), Imperium Anglorum (393), Wischland (322), North East Somerset (241), Luna State (173), Ruinenlust (119), Brototh (100), ShrewLlamaLand (94), Josephtan (62), The Glorious Hypetrain (60), Vancouvia (56), Nulkia (55), Mikeswill (45), Boris Cult (36), Candensia (35), Particle (33), Roma Sparta (32), Tostandia (26), Logar (23), Hulldom (21), Bassiliya (19), Calnodia (18), Suter (18), German Federal Reich (17), Martinilinian (16), Sheepiania (16), Cruciland (15), Ecolaria (12), Isaris (12), Zamastan (12), Azgoghk (11), Hajirah (11), Gatchina (11), Yafetistan (11), Aftenheim (10), Halcyon Nova (10), Candanadium (10), Otaku Stratus (9), Chodean Kal (9), Almerdonia (9), Princess Luna (9), Orca and Narwhal (9), The Voltarum (9), Vegaga (9), The Lonely Peak of a Forgotten Mountain (9), Lurusitania (8), The Reich of my People (8), Thee Imperium 0f Man (8), One Small Island (8), Golanchia (8), Axorian (8), GoodKingWenceslas (7), OmegaShenron (7), Norvew (7), Brocklandia (7), Killzone35 (7), El Varctica (7), The Regalian Underland (7), Pinochet Executionists (7), Aelythium (6), Lithuanian Ireland (6), Rogue River (6), Kustonia (6), Angry Saffron (6), Lost Village Mayohiga (6), Of The Glorious Soviet Onion (6), Voxija (5), The Sovereign Kingdom of Immobilia (5), ColdHeartedBastards (5), New Ziah (5), FORKTASTICSTAN (5), Lamoni (5), Minlask (5), New Delfos (5), Republic of Dixie (5), Ench Table (5), Yaxopsville (4), Frontier Isles (4), Andia Calla (4), Chap Ven (4), Wabacha (4), Barak Khalad (4), Greater Zhanland (4), Demokratische Volksrepublik Ozeanien (4), The Giantik (4), Eemeria (4), Cantabury (4), East overworld (4), Pharoahs Haven (4), SFR Philippines (4), Conservativealia (4), The Palentine (4), Dragons of Power (3), Loovo (3), Becciland (3), Flor-Fina (3), TexJeeps (3), Sietsk (3), Haruhi Japan (3), Dagnia (3), Matonis (3), Robotox Empire (3), Zombiedolphins (3), Ben Kenobi (3), Madrocea (3), Republic of Washinton (3), Talyang (3), Talthesia (3), Coronational Chechyans and affiliates (3), North Mack (3), The Neolithic German Empire (3), LeoBelgikus (3), IstanbulHasAids (3), Tsaivao (3), South Abrada (3), Chuliu Emperor (3), Herby (3), Rexcaeli (3), Nekomimea (3), Conollyland (2), United Lammunist Republic (2), Lacmhacarh (2), Nataanland (2), Union of Noovistian (2), The Awesome Niko islands (2), Oppy Gasai (2), Lehqhbraot (2), Sovyanka (2), Fsdh E (2), Greenkeep (2), Jarnvilja (2), South Otselic (2), Hometania (2), Zfhmpnaf (2), The Hazar Amisnery (2), Vipathe (2), Hakuri (2), Gonzlandia (2), Jennyvania (2), Hixoelop (2), Unified Democratic Europe (2), Romulus III (2), Beazlend (2), Playball758 (2), The Hermetic Order of The Baal (2), Nopengie (2), ANTRUN (2), Serene Peninsular Workers Republic (2), Knootoss (2), Santa Monica Order (2), North-West Commland (2), Central Protectorate of Alkoholi (2), Adeiatic (2), Tarlag (2), Wolflandil (2), Great Primrosia (2), Republic of Blank (2), The Anarchist Federation of Spain (2), Some People on Planet Arcadia (2), The Republic of Abe (2), Uralom (2), Yufjanciegglandraxei (2), Copristan (2), Scakulever (2), The Pop Punk Union (2), Lower Slobbovia (2), Imperiya Snezhnaya (2), Glorious Turkiye (2), Shnrubton (2), Snowy Town Island (2), Seramesh (2), Imperioa (2), SEAL-Team-6 (2), Arcerar (2), Melanocytes (2), Greater Lusong (2), Consigahria (2), Spaviland (2), Imperial Felchah (2), Erianu (2), Azbeksia (2), and (2,600) individual member nations.

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Postby Cappedore » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:33 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.


"You're joking... not ANOTHER ONE!? Oh I can't stand this, there is too much politics going on at the moment."

OOC: In all seriousness (and if you didn't get that reference), there's no point in trying again. 54%-46% feels like a pretty clear margin to me; there's no point in wasting more of the GA's time. Redraft all you want, but in all honesty I fail to see how this can be changed to a point where it is worthy of re-submission.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:55 pm

Cappedore wrote:54%-46% feels like a pretty clear margin to me

On 19th December 2004, Repeal "The 40 Hour Workweek" by Leg-ends (an ACCEL nation) was defeated with 45.5% support. This was its full text:
Individuals should have the right to choose how many hours a week they want to work without interference from the United Nations.

The consequences of Resolution #59 are the opposite of the aims. The resolution actually increases income inequality as it is often the typically low paid poor who work longer hours to make up for the gap in income with the higher paid workers and thus has further consequences of decreasing basic welfare.

On 9th July 2006, Repeal "The 40 Hour Workweek" by Leg-ends was passed with 71.1% support; its full text can be found here.

You will note that the 2006 repeal makes the same basic point as the 2004 repeal, namely that individuals should be allowed to work as long as they want without Regulatory Superstate interference, but its other arguments run more along the lines of "the UN WA should butt out of private contracts where it has incomplete information" than "this doesn't fit the category description."

Similarly, while WAPP 2 will continue to push the point that "all sapient rights are put in danger wherever unnecessary armed conflict occurs," it will pivot on pre-emptive (if not practical) conflict reduction recommendations while retaining the Peace Prize in a less central role.

Addendum: Most resolutions are decided by more than eight percentage points (or a thousand votes, spin it how you will). World Assembly Peace Prize was the closest GA resolution of 2021 so far; the last resolution that had a narrower margin either in terms of percentage or absolute votes was Land Reclamation Regulation, which was defeated by 324 votes after getting 48.97% FOR and was passed in a different form three months later anyway.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:53 pm

Cappedore wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.


"You're joking... not ANOTHER ONE!? Oh I can't stand this, there is too much politics going on at the moment."

OOC: In all seriousness (and if you didn't get that reference), there's no point in trying again. 54%-46% feels like a pretty clear margin to me; there's no point in wasting more of the GA's time. Redraft all you want, but in all honesty I fail to see how this can be changed to a point where it is worthy of re-submission.

That is an incredibly tight margin by WA standards.
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Postby Jedinsto » Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:59 pm

To me anything under 2/3rds majority is a tight margin (at least in the WA).
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Postby Cappedore » Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:15 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Cappedore wrote:
"You're joking... not ANOTHER ONE!? Oh I can't stand this, there is too much politics going on at the moment."

OOC: In all seriousness (and if you didn't get that reference), there's no point in trying again. 54%-46% feels like a pretty clear margin to me; there's no point in wasting more of the GA's time. Redraft all you want, but in all honesty I fail to see how this can be changed to a point where it is worthy of re-submission.

That is an incredibly tight margin by WA standards.

Either way, I still don't feel like it warrants a redrafting. As much as I like what the proposal does, I just don't feel as if it's popular enough.
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Postby Sylh Alanor » Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:35 pm

Cappedore wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That is an incredibly tight margin by WA standards.

Either way, I still don't feel like it warrants a redrafting. As much as I like what the proposal does, I just don't feel as if it's popular enough.

It is certainly your right to not draft it yourself then.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:58 pm

I wish this passed, it's such a great proposal! Original and creative, a WA Peace Prize, that's unique!

Great run, Tinhampton!
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:19 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:I wish this passed, it's such a great proposal! Original and creative, a WA Peace Prize, that's unique!

Great run, Tinhampton!

OOC: a Peace Prize awarded by an NPC committee whose deliberations and decisions we would never see, consequently a Prize that could easily be subject to competing claims about who had received it with no way for any player to prove or disprove any of those claims...
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Postby Doge Land » Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:22 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
"World Assembly Peace Prize" was defeated 6,733 votes to 5,748. (46.05% support)

A redraft which will contain more substantiative provisions, while retaining the World Assembly Peace Prize itself, will be published in the coming days. I am pleased to have worked with several highly-esteemed General Assembly authors on the upcoming new proposal.


Can't wait to see this new waste of the WA's time. Good luck i guess.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:19 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Queen Yuno wrote:I wish this passed, it's such a great proposal! Original and creative, a WA Peace Prize, that's unique!

Great run, Tinhampton!

OOC: a Peace Prize awarded by an NPC committee whose deliberations and decisions we would never see, consequently a Prize that could easily be subject to competing claims about who had received it with no way for any player to prove or disprove any of those claims...
:roll:

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Postby Kurogasa » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:30 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:OOC: a Peace Prize awarded by an NPC committee whose deliberations and decisions we would never see, consequently a Prize that could easily be subject to competing claims about who had received it with no way for any player to prove or disprove any of those claims...
:roll:

Mr. Ogenbond was, in fact, looking forward to being himself a nominee. How dare you scatter his dreams.


Honestly I heard from good sources that people from Kurogasa will win it every year, specially the generals.

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Postby Tinfect » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:27 am

Kurogasa wrote:Honestly I heard from good sources that people from Kurogasa will win it every year, specially the generals.


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Postby Cappedore » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:10 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Queen Yuno wrote:I wish this passed, it's such a great proposal! Original and creative, a WA Peace Prize, that's unique!

Great run, Tinhampton!

OOC: a Peace Prize awarded by an NPC committee whose deliberations and decisions we would never see, consequently a Prize that could easily be subject to competing claims about who had received it with no way for any player to prove or disprove any of those claims...
:roll:

Still not bad for a roleplay proposal.
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