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Postby Katganistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:10 am

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American Pere Housh wrote:-shakes head at the pure stupidity of this women.-
As they always say, you can't cure stupid.

I love how obsessed right-wingers are with calling her stupid.

One should proofread before calling someone else stupid.

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Postby Katganistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:16 am

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Liriena wrote:Counterpoint: Ocasio-Cortez has shown multiple times that she is not just smart, but also willing to keep learning and show the receipts. Trump has repeatedly shown that he doesn't understand anything other than showmanship and has no curiosity to learn. But sure, it's the demsucc who tweets about medicare-for-all and how maybe we shouldn't boil our own planet that's stupid.


The New Green Deal is quite possibly one of the absolute stupidest bills that ever could have been proposed to the United States Congress. Don’t defend it, the flaws have been pointed out hundreds of times.

She doesn’t realize, at the same time, that “healthcare for all” is a reality we will not live. Get over it. We don’t need to pay exorbitant amounts of money, money that we don’t need to spend there and could use for much better things, for something that most people won’t use and don’t need.

Funny how the UK has it, their population is cared for cradle to grave, don't pay out of pocket for it, and are not left to die because they can't afford drugs or treatment.

I mean, who would want THAT?

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:44 am

Katganistan wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
The New Green Deal is quite possibly one of the absolute stupidest bills that ever could have been proposed to the United States Congress. Don’t defend it, the flaws have been pointed out hundreds of times.

She doesn’t realize, at the same time, that “healthcare for all” is a reality we will not live. Get over it. We don’t need to pay exorbitant amounts of money, money that we don’t need to spend there and could use for much better things, for something that most people won’t use and don’t need.

Funny how the UK has it, their population is cared for cradle to grave, don't pay out of pocket for it, and are not left to die because they can't afford drugs or treatment.

I mean, who would want THAT?


And for a per capita price far lower than what the US currently spends on healthcare.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:48 am

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Katganistan wrote:Funny how the UK has it, their population is cared for cradle to grave, don't pay out of pocket for it, and are not left to die because they can't afford drugs or treatment.

I mean, who would want THAT?


And for a per capita price far lower than what the US currently spends on healthcare.


Well yeah, Americans are horrifically unhealthy.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:53 am

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And for a per capita price far lower than what the US currently spends on healthcare.


Well yeah, Americans are horrifically unhealthy.


Is it that? Or is it because healthcare providers routinely price-gouge to hell and back?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:57 am

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Well yeah, Americans are horrifically unhealthy.


Is it that? Or is it because healthcare providers routinely price-gouge to hell and back?


While yeah some healthcare providers are greedy like that a lot of it really comes down to we're just a horribly unhealthy nation.

American healthcare is always gonna break someones bank because so few people try to take care of themselves and we do so much unhealthy shit.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:06 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Is it that? Or is it because healthcare providers routinely price-gouge to hell and back?


While yeah some healthcare providers are greedy like that a lot of it really comes down to we're just a horribly unhealthy nation.

American healthcare is always gonna break someones bank because so few people try to take care of themselves and we do so much unhealthy shit.


I mean, here in Canada, even with our public healthcare system, many people simply choose to avoid the hospital altogether unless they are literally fucking dying or in severe pain because the wait times are utterly unbearable, and can cost days out from your work.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:09 am

Yusseria wrote:
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Sanders is a bigger threat than she is.

Sanders is a meme and will never be president.

AOC keeps getting publicity because she somehow just can't stop herself from saying stupid things. But that does probably tend to happen when one is just naturally stupid.

AOC has fooled Fox News into giving her hours and hours of free promotion. That kind of thing gets a person high office in the US. See: Donald Trump.


Vassenor wrote:NBC: Fact check: Did Ocasio-Cortez and her team break campaign finance law?

Short answer: Probably not.

Campaign finance experts, meanwhile, told NBC News that while the structure of her campaign and its vendors might be confusing, there's no evidence of some kind of million-dollar scam as has been alleged in news reports.


Close the thread down, we're done here.

Too late, the narrative's been established.


Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is it that? Or is it because healthcare providers routinely price-gouge to hell and back?


While yeah some healthcare providers are greedy like that a lot of it really comes down to we're just a horribly unhealthy nation.

American healthcare is always gonna break someones bank because so few people try to take care of themselves and we do so much unhealthy shit.

Maybe you wouldn't be such an unhealthy nation if you could go to the doctor without needing to take out a second mortgage.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:10 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
While yeah some healthcare providers are greedy like that a lot of it really comes down to we're just a horribly unhealthy nation.

American healthcare is always gonna break someones bank because so few people try to take care of themselves and we do so much unhealthy shit.


I mean, here in Canada, even with our public healthcare system, many people simply choose to avoid the hospital altogether unless they are literally fucking dying or in severe pain because the wait times are utterly unbearable, and can cost days out from your work.


I used to be pretty good friends with a guy from Saskatchewan and we talked about that a lot actually. His opinion pretty much boiled down to "yeah our healthcare is free but you can go in, see a doctor, get referred and have surgery before I've even seen a doctor".

I'll take breaking the bank over long waits tbh. Even simple shit sometimes took him months to get in for.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 am

I dont get all the hate thrown at AOC by Republicans and moderate dems. Shes just another DemSocialist. Not really anything special. She may be a sign the party is moving left, but shes one representative wanting to start a war in her party to drag them to the left. Let her do it. The dems need to become the workers parties the Republicans once were 100, 150 years ago.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:13 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:I dont get all the hate thrown at AOC by Republicans and moderate dems. Shes just another DemSocialist. Not really anything special. She may be a sign the party is moving left, but shes one representative wanting to start a war in her party to drag them to the left. Let her do it. The dems need to become the workers parties the Republicans once were 100, 150 years ago.

She’s not even a democratic socialist at all.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:14 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:I dont get all the hate thrown at AOC by Republicans and moderate dems. Shes just another DemSocialist. Not really anything special. She may be a sign the party is moving left, but shes one representative wanting to start a war in her party to drag them to the left. Let her do it. The dems need to become the workers parties the Republicans once were 100, 150 years ago.

She’s not even a democratic socialist at all.

She’s more of a social democrat
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Postby Sicaris » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:15 am

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:She’s not even a democratic socialist at all.

She’s more of a social democrat


She’s more of an idiot, but Social Democrat works, I guess.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:16 am

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:She’s not even a democratic socialist at all.

She’s more of a social democrat


One with no fucking clue about careful planning and gradual process, but one nonetheless.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:16 am

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:She’s not even a democratic socialist at all.

She’s more of a social democrat

She's actually a mega-communist. She is as communist as a million Karl Marxes.
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Ifreann wrote:She's actually a mega-communist. She is as communist as a million Karl Marxes.

Communism literally invented carl marxs and she wants to kill everyone.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:20 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:She’s more of a social democrat


One with no fucking clue about careful planning and gradual process, but one nonetheless.

If people wanted a gradual process, we should have started twenty years ago.

But then people said that there was no hurry.

So now we are here.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:26 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
One with no fucking clue about careful planning and gradual process, but one nonetheless.

If people wanted a gradual process, we should have started twenty years ago.

But then people said that there was no hurry.

So now we are here.


Yes, as we all know, Thanos is going to show up in exactly twelve years with his Infinity Gauntlet and snap us.

Spare me the "We’re all gonna die!" story, it’s not by flushing the economy down the fucking drain that we’re gonna be saving the Earth.

Also, still no mention of space colonization, thus she has no sense of the far future as well.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:35 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:If people wanted a gradual process, we should have started twenty years ago.

But then people said that there was no hurry.

So now we are here.


Yes, as we all know, Thanos is going to show up in exactly twelve years with his Infinity Gauntlet and snap us.

Spare me the "We’re all gonna die!" story, it’s not by flushing the economy down the fucking drain that we’re gonna be saving the Earth.

Also, still no mention of space colonization, thus she has no sense of the far future as well.


We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...
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Postby Sicaris » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:39 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Yes, as we all know, Thanos is going to show up in exactly twelve years with his Infinity Gauntlet and snap us.

Spare me the "We’re all gonna die!" story, it’s not by flushing the economy down the fucking drain that we’re gonna be saving the Earth.

Also, still no mention of space colonization, thus she has no sense of the far future as well.


We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...


So what you’re saying is the capitalist boogeyman is going to kill the human race?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:41 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Yes, as we all know, Thanos is going to show up in exactly twelve years with his Infinity Gauntlet and snap us.

Spare me the "We’re all gonna die!" story, it’s not by flushing the economy down the fucking drain that we’re gonna be saving the Earth.

Also, still no mention of space colonization, thus she has no sense of the far future as well.


We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...


A man of science also does not believe that humanity will collapse of angry Mother Earth in a mere twelve years, that’s a slow and gradual torture that stretches for decades, if not a couple of centuries before hitting its peak.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:45 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...


A man of science also does not believe that humanity will collapse of angry Mother Earth in a mere twelve years, that’s a slow and gradual torture that stretches for decades, if not a couple of centuries before hitting its peak.

Climate change has been in the making for about 200 years, ever since humans started burning fossil fuels in large quantities. We are not hitting the peak, but the adverse effects are undeniable.

Humanity will not collapse of 'angry mother earth'. It will collapse due to water shortages, food shortages, violent storms, increased wildfires and increased flooding.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:46 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Yes, as we all know, Thanos is going to show up in exactly twelve years with his Infinity Gauntlet and snap us.

Spare me the "We’re all gonna die!" story, it’s not by flushing the economy down the fucking drain that we’re gonna be saving the Earth.

Also, still no mention of space colonization, thus she has no sense of the far future as well.


We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:53 am

Sicaris wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
We're not all going to die. Just very, very many of us.

The environment is a system with a lot of inertia. Every punch we give now we will get back, just ten years down the line. Even if we stopped with all carbon emissions right now, the environment would continue to worsen over the next decades, if not the next hundred years. Bangladesh is already flooding regularly, causing mountains of destruction. Whole island nations are disappearing beneath the waves. California and Iberia are burning. Snowy winters are getting shorter and farther between. Whole species are already being eradicated, and hunger in Africa has sparked a huge refugee crisis. But sure, the environment is not literally going to come by your door and shoot you, if that's what you were expecting. Your argument is absolute shit, is what I'm trying to say. If the economy isn't going to hand something in soon, then it will be destroyed by the results of climate change. See if Wall Street is happy when Manhattan floods.

I really thought you were a man of science...


So what you’re saying is the capitalist boogeyman is going to kill the human race?

Don't be silly. We'll kill the boogeyman before he gets us all.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sicaris wrote:
So what you’re saying is the capitalist boogeyman is going to kill the human race?

Don't be silly. We'll kill the boogeyman before he gets us all.

Destruction of the boogeyman's natural habitats has caused severe population decline. Without proper conservation attempts, we expect the boogeyman to go completely extinct in the next 5-10 years.

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