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by Republic of Penguinian Astronautia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:36 pm
by Austrasien » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:17 pm
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a956443.pdf
Are any of these missile basing concepts feasible or practical? If so, in what situation? Are any superior to current basing systems?
by Spirit of Hope » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:31 pm
Austrasien wrote:Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a956443.pdf
Are any of these missile basing concepts feasible or practical? If so, in what situation? Are any superior to current basing systems?
Road and rail mobile basing have both been operationally deployed. They are considerably more difficult to attack than fixed silos.
But generally exotic basing methods are inferior to SLBMs. The US military remains committed to the triad for reasons more political than practical.
Republic of Penguinian Astronautia wrote:http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a956443.pdf
Are any of these missile basing concepts feasible or practical? If so, in what situation? Are any superior to current basing systems?
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by New Vihenia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:40 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:00 pm
by Spirit of Hope » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:19 pm
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Is Trident any less reachy than Minuteman these days?
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by The Akasha Colony » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Is Trident any less reachy than Minuteman these days?
Spirit of Hope wrote:There are still some practical reasons to keep both ground based missiles and air launched missiles.
Ground based can be less expensive, does not require advanced submarines, and allows larger missiles.
Air based allows a better flexibility of employment, and again less expensive and does not require a submarine platform for use. It also, depending on warhead used, can arguably avoid "strategic" exchanges depending on use.
Spirit of Hope wrote:From a deterrent perspective there is also an important point that it is basically impossible to strike a land based missile without a major strike on the nation. While sub based missiles could in theory be targeted without necessarily carrying out a major strike. So land based missiles will always be an option up until you are being invaded/nukes are being thrown at you while subs could be removed early in a conflict without reaching the level of pushing for a nuclear strike.
by Spirit of Hope » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:03 pm
The Akasha Colony wrote:
This is literally what the strategic bomber force was designed to do.
I find it rather difficult to believe that the Soviets would have been any more incensed by a wave of B-2s hunting SS-25s in the wilds of Siberia than they would by a couple of Seawolfs breaking into the Barents Sea naval bastion and knocking over the Delta/Typhoon fleet.
The Akasha Colony wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:There are still some practical reasons to keep both ground based missiles and air launched missiles.
Ground based can be less expensive, does not require advanced submarines, and allows larger missiles.
Air based allows a better flexibility of employment, and again less expensive and does not require a submarine platform for use. It also, depending on warhead used, can arguably avoid "strategic" exchanges depending on use.
The problem is that the triad is failing at achieving its original objectives as it shrinks. SLBMs have caught up with the ICBMs the US retains in inventory in both range and accuracy, while reductions in warhead counts due to arms control treaties has shifted an increasing proportion of the warhead count to SLBMs. Meanwhile, the Air Force is down to just two delivery methods: AGM-86 ALCM and B61/B83. And it's been having a hell of a time just keeping them refurbished.
Which means that the flexibility of the force is being lost. And that flexibility was the primary reason for its existence. This is why other countries like the UK and France moved to SLBM-only nuclear forces. If the full flexibility of a widely-varied nuclear force can no longer be afforded, then there is little reason not to simply pursue the most cost-effective and survivable option, which is an SSBN fleet.
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by Nipumal » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:26 am
by Crookfur » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:39 pm
Nipumal wrote:Anyone have recommendations for a class of river patrol boat, with main considerations being fuel efficiency and moderate operating cost? Timeline is present day, but of course I'm willing to consider options that came out in the previous century.
by The Akasha Colony » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:00 pm
Spirit of Hope wrote:Hence my counterpoint. Attacks on a nations nuclear arsenal are almost certainly going to generate a nuclear response, and it isn't like subs are easy enough to find and kill that you can guarantee you will get them all before some of them would be able to launch. However it is an argument I have seen scholars put forward, so I thought I would bring it up.
Spirit of Hope wrote:You aren't going to see me arguing against that. I was simply pointing out why the US tries to still have air and land missiles, and hasn't fully gone to sub launched.
by Nipumal » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:29 am
Crookfur wrote:To be honest dedicated river boats for military/law enforcement aren't really a thing these days, most folks seem to be using stuff from the smaller end of the general patrol boat spectrum so its really a case of deciding what sort of size/capability you want be it a glorified RHIB, full cabin cruiser or something in between.
Crookfur wrote:On the most up to date full military side of things you might be looking at something like a CB-90 or the US Navy's Mark VI patrol boat.
for a more general starting point looking at the website of a manufacturer who makes a range of such boats such as here will give you a rough idea of what sort of thing you would be getting in the various size classes.
by The Technocratic Syndicalists » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:53 pm
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by Greater Kazar » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:45 am
The Technocratic Syndicalists wrote:Arcaenian Panzer Brigade:
Panzer Pioneer Battalion
- HQ
- Panzer Pioneer Company (x3)
- Panzer Pioneer Platoon: 4x IFV
- Panzer Pioneer Platoon: 4x IFV
- Panzer Pioneer Platoon: 4x IFV
- Panzer Assault & Obstacle Platoon:
- Obstacle Section: 2x VOLCANO
- Assault Section: 2x AVLB, 2X CMV, 2x ABV
- Assault Section: 2x AVLB, 2X CMV, 2x ABV
- Forward support company
Panzer Recon Battalion
- HQ
- UAS Platoon: 4x UAS
- SIGINT/HUMINT Platoon
- Sniper Platoon
- Medical Platoon
- Panzer Recon Troop (x3):
- HQ: 2x MBT, 1x IFV
- Panzer platoon: 4x MBT
- Panzer platoon: 4x MBT
- Scout platoon: 6x RSV
- Scout platoon: 6x RSV
- Flakpanzer battery: 4x SPAAG
- LRATGM battery: 4x NLOS-LS
- Forward support company
Panzer Battalion (x3)
- HQ
- Recon Platoon: 6x RSV
- Sniper Platoon
- Medical Platoon
- Panzer Troop (x3):
- HQ: 2x MBT, 1x IFV
- Panzer platoon: 4x MBT
- Panzer platoon: 4x MBT
- Panzergrenadier platoon: 4x IFV
- Panzergrenadier platoon: 4x IFV
- Mortar section: 2x 120mm SPM
- Flakpanzer battery: 4x SPAAG
- LRATGM battery: 4x NLOS-LS
- Forward support company
Panzer Artillery Battalion
- HQ
- Panzer Artillery Battery (x3)
- Fire Direction Center
- Panzer Howitzer Section: 4x 155mm SPH
- Panzer Howitzer Section: 4x 155mm SPH
- Ammunition Section
- Target acquisition platoon
- Forward support company
Brigade Support Battalion
- HQ
- Workshop Company
- Distribution Company
- Medical Company
by New Vihenia » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:02 am
by Tule » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:53 am
Im curious if we could somehow make water solid in room temperature.
Thinking about sort of survival ration but with "solidified water" included Maybe some sort of sponge or agent. you get freshwater by squeezing on it. The container is of course would be rigid so it wont get squeezed by accident. and the agent must be able to "store" like at least 3 liters of water.
I wonder if it could be made to work.
by Greater Kazar » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:56 am
by Austrasien » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:26 am
New Vihenia wrote:Im curious if we could somehow make water solid in room temperature.
Thinking about sort of survival ration but with "solidified water" included Maybe some sort of sponge or agent. you get freshwater by squeezing on it. The container is of course would be rigid so it wont get squeezed by accident. and the agent must be able to "store" like at least 3 liters of water.
I wonder if it could be made to work.
by The Corparation » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:36 am
New Vihenia wrote:Im curious if we could somehow make water solid in room temperature.
Thinking about sort of survival ration but with "solidified water" included Maybe some sort of sponge or agent. you get freshwater by squeezing on it. The container is of course would be rigid so it wont get squeezed by accident. and the agent must be able to "store" like at least 3 liters of water.
I wonder if it could be made to work.
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by The Manticoran Empire » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:07 am
Tule wrote:Im curious if we could somehow make water solid in room temperature.
Thinking about sort of survival ration but with "solidified water" included Maybe some sort of sponge or agent. you get freshwater by squeezing on it. The container is of course would be rigid so it wont get squeezed by accident. and the agent must be able to "store" like at least 3 liters of water.
I wonder if it could be made to work.
You could have some kind of compartmentalised canteen, when you want to take a sip you unscrew the lid and an internal mechanism turns and lets the water flow between compartments. I'm guessing you're concerned about leakages?
TBH I don't think it's a big issue.
Now... Onto another topic:
I have been working on a "Ranger platoon" lately. One of two branches of my army. It's a relatively elite light infantry force for my mountainous/forested areas.
3x Rifle sections
Automatic rifleman. 5.56 Bren gun
Rifleman. 5.56 rifle
Rifleman
Rifleman
Bren gunner
Rifleman
Rifleman
Rifleman
1x Weapons section
Javelin operator
Javelin loader
Mortarman 60mm knee mortar
Mortar assistant
GPMG gunner .338 Lapua MG
GPMG assistant
GPMG assistant
GPMG assistant
1x HQ team
Platoon Commander
2IC
Signaller
Medic
What I haven't decided is how to arm the Mechanized infantry. Given the fact their vehicle is armed with ATGM's and autocannons, is it safe to just go with a platoon armed with LMG's/Rifles only?
by Taihei Tengoku » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:26 am
by Tule » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:40 am
Why Bren guns?
3. With just two guys, your javelin and 60mm mortar teams will be out of ammo very quickly.
4. And that's a heavy MG for an otherwise light infantry organization.
Squads need dedicated leaders, otherwise it's workable.
by Taihei Tengoku » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:47 am
by Isilanka » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:58 am
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Part of the utility of a mortar is shooting flares and smoke.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:51 pm
Nipumal wrote:Anyone have recommendations for a class of river patrol boat, with main considerations being fuel efficiency and moderate operating cost? Timeline is present day, but of course I'm willing to consider options that came out in the previous century.
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