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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:55 pm

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You just did that congrats, and you still didn't answer Gallo's question or mine.

No, it's you who just did that.

The question was answered. You have been shown irrefutable, solid, and conclusive evidence that religion causes harm from as early as childhood. And you choose to bury your head in the sand in response to it.

Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds
Religious belief appears to have negative influence on children’s altruism and judgments of others’ actions even as parents see them as ‘more empathetic’


There must be a conspiracy all the researchers are in on. Reality must be in on a conspiracy to show how dangerous religion is.

No what you did was repeat the same study to showd us earlier. I asked for you to explain why correlation magically does man causality where religion studies are concerned. You haven't answered that. Even if we were to accept this study you showed us, which has had doubt cast on it since others posted counters, that still does not explain the leap from correlation to causality.
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Postby The Prosperous Peoples » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:57 pm

For some reason I feel like this was made as a joke, but regardless I'll give it a serious answer:
No.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:59 pm

The Prosperous Peoples wrote:For some reason I feel like this was made as a joke, but regardless I'll give it a serious answer:
No.

We've all since given up the hope that Kefka and his puppets did these as jokes.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:00 pm

Let's even grant you that religion can cause harm. That still isn't grounds to deprive someone's rights from them. We can have harms from many things around us. Bans certainly don't prevent the harms and in many cases help exacerbate them.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:02 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:Let's even grant you that religion can cause harm. That still isn't grounds to deprive someone's rights from them. We can have harms from many things around us. Bans certainly don't prevent the harms and in many cases help exacerbate them.

Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,
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The Archregimancy wrote:
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Postby Jedi8246 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:04 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Let's even grant you that religion can cause harm. That still isn't grounds to deprive someone's rights from them. We can have harms from many things around us. Bans certainly don't prevent the harms and in many cases help exacerbate them.

Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

The idea of a gang selling Santa merchandise is actually funny enough that I'd want to see this ban in action. The Santa Mafia!
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Postby The Prosperous Peoples » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:06 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

The idea of a gang selling Santa merchandise is actually funny enough that I'd want to see this ban in action. The Santa Mafia!

Imagine all of the gangs breaking into houses just to return to other houses with gifts from Santa
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:06 pm

The Prosperous Peoples wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:The idea of a gang selling Santa merchandise is actually funny enough that I'd want to see this ban in action. The Santa Mafia!

Imagine all of the gangs breaking into houses just to return to other houses with gifts from Santa

The Christmas Bandits?
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The Archregimancy wrote:
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I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Prosperous Peoples » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:09 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The Prosperous Peoples wrote:Imagine all of the gangs breaking into houses just to return to other houses with gifts from Santa

The Christmas Bandits?

Sure, why not?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:12 pm

The Prosperous Peoples wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:The Christmas Bandits?

Sure, why not?

And like that we've turned santa from a jolly old fat man traditionalits love into an edgy symbol of counter culture rebellion.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
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Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Ugatoo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:34 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Let's even grant you that religion can cause harm. That still isn't grounds to deprive someone's rights from them. We can have harms from many things around us. Bans certainly don't prevent the harms and in many cases help exacerbate them.

Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.
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Postby Korhal IVV » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:51 pm

Ugatoo wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.

Go to Africa and Asia, people are craving for religion.
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Postby Xarchia (Ancient) » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:04 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:
Ugatoo wrote:There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.

Go to Africa and Asia, people are craving for religion.


Also Russia and South America.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:06 pm

Ugatoo wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.

Actually, the unaffiliated are projected to fall in terms of the share of the global population.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:10 pm

The Prosperous Peoples wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:The Christmas Bandits?

Sure, why not?


Make them a bunch of lovable ragamuffins only stealing from snooty rich folks and their spoiled brats in order to redistribute the excess to kindly poor people in their neighborhood, and you've got yourself a mid-70s Disney classic.

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Postby Jedi8246 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:53 pm

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Ugatoo wrote:There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.

Actually, the unaffiliated are projected to fall in terms of the share of the global population.

I don't understand where this whole "religion is dying" myth comes from. I suppose other atheists interact with other atheists so much that they have a skewed perspective about it. Granted, the amount of so-called Christians in the world that actually adhere to their faith would be an interesting study to do. Nevertheless, the idea that religion is dying is so grossly wrong it me wonder where it came from.
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Postby Nerotysia » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:29 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:I don't understand where this whole "religion is dying" myth comes from. I suppose other atheists interact with other atheists so much that they have a skewed perspective about it. Granted, the amount of so-called Christians in the world that actually adhere to their faith would be an interesting study to do. Nevertheless, the idea that religion is dying is so grossly wrong it me wonder where it came from.

This is off-topic, but I imagine it's because religion is on the decline, but only in the western, developed world. It can be easy to forget the world outside of the west when you're within it.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:36 am

Ugatoo wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Look at what happened with alcohol, hell I go to a dry campus...which is probably wetter than any other in the country,

There is no supply and demand for religion. It's slowly dying out anyways, I say we put it out of it's misery.

Cause that worked out well when the Soviets and Chinese did it.
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The Archregimancy wrote:
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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

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Postby Pulau Singapura » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:41 am

........not sure if serious or....?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:50 am

Just watching at the last page makes me wonder:

Is there any benefit towards banning the practice of Santa Claus and other common traditions with fictional figureheads? I mean, I get people are arguing against religion saying it makes you mentally ill (lel) but honestly, is there really? Because, as far as I am aware, this is a choice people have made to use Santa as a fictional figurehead.

I learned it was not Santa Claus when I was 7, and since then my parents didn't use the "Santa" shit anymore with me, because they knew I know it was them buying the gifts and everything. So is it really needed to ban it? Or is this just an argument to say religious people are retarded?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:53 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:Just watching at the last page makes me wonder:

Is there any benefit towards banning the practice of Santa Claus and other common traditions with fictional figureheads? I mean, I get people are arguing against religion saying it makes you mentally ill (lel) but honestly, is there really? Because, as far as I am aware, this is a choice people have made to use Santa as a fictional figurehead.

I learned it was not Santa Claus when I was 7, and since then my parents didn't use the "Santa" shit anymore with me, because they knew I know it was them buying the gifts and everything. So is it really needed to ban it? Or is this just an argument to say religious people are retarded?

When does it ever NOT devolve into that? Like seriously the longer a thread goes on NSG the more the likelihood of it being mentioned reaches one.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:53 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
The Prosperous Peoples wrote:For some reason I feel like this was made as a joke, but regardless I'll give it a serious answer:
No.

We've all since given up the hope that Kefka and his puppets did these as jokes.


I haven't. I think these threads lately are jokes.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:55 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:We've all since given up the hope that Kefka and his puppets did these as jokes.


I haven't. I think these threads lately are jokes.

Well not disagreeing with you there. The question was though, does OP think they're jokes.
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The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:56 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Just watching at the last page makes me wonder:

Is there any benefit towards banning the practice of Santa Claus and other common traditions with fictional figureheads? I mean, I get people are arguing against religion saying it makes you mentally ill (lel) but honestly, is there really? Because, as far as I am aware, this is a choice people have made to use Santa as a fictional figurehead.

I learned it was not Santa Claus when I was 7, and since then my parents didn't use the "Santa" shit anymore with me, because they knew I know it was them buying the gifts and everything. So is it really needed to ban it? Or is this just an argument to say religious people are retarded?

When does it ever NOT devolve into that? Like seriously the longer a thread goes on NSG the more the likelihood of it being mentioned reaches one.


I hereby dub this "A Godlose". To complement the "Godwin".
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:56 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:When does it ever NOT devolve into that? Like seriously the longer a thread goes on NSG the more the likelihood of it being mentioned reaches one.


I hereby dub this "A Godlose". To complement the "Godwin".

Someone gets it.
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You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

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The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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