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Edmund Burke
63
15%
William F. Buckley
39
9%
Dostoevsky
34
8%
Evola
41
10%
De Maistre
15
4%
Disraeli
39
9%
Other
187
45%
 
Total votes : 418

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Boltainia
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Posts: 14
Founded: Jan 18, 2015
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Postby Boltainia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:03 am

My Views

Social:
Pro-Gay Rights (High Priority)
Pro-Gay Marriage (Low Priority)
Pro-Choice (Women should have to have full consent of the baby's father to get an abortion except in rape)
Anti-Marijuana (Medicinal and Recreational)
Anti-Gun Control (Hopeful Member of the NRA)
Anti-Illegal Immigration (Attempt to rehabilitate them and teach them the way of American Life)
Pro-War (Will try to stay out but will go in to protect citizens, allies, or resources)
Police Brutality is Fake (Most of the Time)
No Palestine (I am Jewish)

Fiscal:
Lower Taxes (~10%)
Flat Tax (Unless you are Bankrupt)
Privatize Industry (Healthcare, Water, Electricity, Plumbing, Education)
Leave Some for the Government (Prison, Military, Space Program)

As I have mentioned, I am Jewish. Besides Ben Bernanke, Harvey Milk, Michael Bloomberg, and Barry Goldwater, I am the only Jewish Republican in the U.S.

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Pulau Singapura
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Postby Pulau Singapura » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:08 am

Oooh now that someone posted something similar, here are my views:

Pro:
Gun control
Right wing (of course)
Authoritarianism
Conservatism
Russia
Assad's regime
Palestine
Compulsory voting every election
Fascism
Religion
Pluralism
Multiculturalism
Transgender rights
Feminism

Neutral:
Socialism
Centrism
Gay union

Anti:
Liberalism
Communism
Anarchism
Optional voting every election
Gun nuts
Drugs
Marijuana
Nuclear Weapons
Nuclear energy
Bigots/Racists
"Destroy the seed of evil, or it will grow up to your ruin."

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The Grey Wolf
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:17 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Pulau Singapura wrote:As a conservative myself, I am pro-race mixing, pluralism, and multiculturalism.

Then you need to quit claiming to be a fascist.


"Hitlerism is acquiring renewed vigor because of its myth of blood purity... If Spain one day decides to institute a Fiesta de la Raza, it will be precisely in the opposite sense of the German idea. We deny the purity of our race, admitting that the foundation of our genius is the fusion of races." - Ernesto Giménez Caballero, Falangist propagandist
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Northern Davincia
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Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:33 am

Kauthar wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Then you need to quit claiming to be a fascist.

If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.
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Kauthar
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:53 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Kauthar wrote:If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.

By native american do you mean proper native american or are you like a white SJW who says "I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN!! I'M 1/256TH CHEROKEE!!!" ?
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Kelinfort
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:58 am

Kauthar wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.

By native american do you mean proper native american or are you like a white SJW who says "I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN!! I'M 1/256TH CHEROKEE!!!" ?

The SJW's actually hate when people do that. Usually it's white upper middle class people who frequent Whole Foods.

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Kelinfort
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Founded: Nov 10, 2013
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:00 am

Kauthar wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Then you need to quit claiming to be a fascist.

If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

Fuck "race".

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The Grey Wolf
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Founded: May 19, 2013
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:00 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Kauthar wrote:If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.


Here I thought there was more genetic variation within races than outside them.
Kauthar wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.

By native american do you mean proper native american or are you like a white SJW who says "I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN!! I'M 1/256TH CHEROKEE!!!" ?


Most of the people I've met say that aren't SJW's, in fact most of them have been old, white, religious conservatives. Claiming descent from American Indians has been going on ever since the 1800's.

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Kelinfort
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Founded: Nov 10, 2013
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:14 am

Social:
-Abolition of government surveillance
-LGBTQ Rights
-Legalisation of Marijuana
-Eventual Legalisation of all controlled substances
-Gun Rights
-Abortion Rights
-Increasing freedom of movement
-Religious Freedom
-Secularism
-Free Speech without Hate Speech laws of any kind
-End to the Death Penalty

Economic:
(Here divided into Right Wing and Left Wing stances)

Left:
-Paid Family Leave
-Lowering cost of higher education
-Supportive of (private sector) Unions

Right:
-Lowering taxes
-Lowering Corporate Taxes dramatically
-Deregulating most industries
-Eventual abolition of the minimum wage
-School Choice (vouchers)
-Health Care tax credits and vouchers
-Balancing Budgets
-Ending Subsidies for agribusiness
-Absolute Freedom of Trade
-Negative Income Tax replaces SNAP, TANF, Medicare, and Medicaid
-Raising Social Security retirement age

Libertarian:
-Ending Corporatism
-Cutting Defence Spending


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Kelinfort
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Posts: 16394
Founded: Nov 10, 2013
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:31 am

Conscentia wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Social:
-Abolition of government surveillance [...]

Even CCTV?

Hopefully. I'm a bit more pragmatic when it comes to CCTV, so if its benefits can be proven, I would only restrict its use.

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Shan Yue
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 496
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
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Postby Shan Yue » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:41 am

Pro: order, objectivity, life, secularism, self-determination, privatization, legal equality, first amendment, flat tax, capitalism, zero sum balance, production state, Israel

Anti: chaos, subjectivity, death penalty, state atheism, victimhood, subsidized cronyism, affirmative action, hate speech/crime, graduated tax, socialism, debt, consumer state, Iran

The pros/antis correlate with each other to better give a concise picture of my pov.
"My doctor says I have a malformed public duty gland, and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving universes." - Ford Prefect

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Conscentia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26681
Founded: Feb 04, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Conscentia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:49 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Even CCTV?

Hopefully. I'm a bit more pragmatic when it comes to CCTV, so if its benefits can be proven, I would only restrict its use.

Hopefully? Why? It's not like CCTV is invasive. If you're in public, you're already out in the open for everyone to see. Or do you also want to ban people from going outside without wearing a blindfold?

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Kelinfort
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Founded: Nov 10, 2013
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:53 am

Conscentia wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Hopefully. I'm a bit more pragmatic when it comes to CCTV, so if its benefits can be proven, I would only restrict its use.

Hopefully? Why? It's not like CCTV is invasive. If you're in public, you're already out in the open for everyone to see. Or do you also want to ban people from going outside without wearing a blindfold?

If it provides a benefit, it can be kept. If it doesn't, they're a waste of money.

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Northern Davincia
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Posts: 11490
Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:59 am

Kauthar wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Betraying my race? As a Native American, I find this deeply intriguing. That being said, I don't think my race could be betrayed any more than it already is, whatever that means. Genetic diversity ain't a bad thing.

By native american do you mean proper native american or are you like a white SJW who says "I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN!! I'M 1/256TH CHEROKEE!!!" ?

Mostly Oneida and Onondaga. However, I think our loathing of SJW's is mutual.
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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Founded: Nov 06, 2015
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Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:08 am

Kauthar wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Then you need to quit claiming to be a fascist.

If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

The Party of Lincoln;invented to stop racism and no Racism is a key property of it.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:16 am

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
Kauthar wrote:If you aren't aware already, Fascism isn't focused on race like National Socialism. But never the less, race mixing isn't a good idea, it's betraying your race.

The Party of Lincoln;invented to stop racism and no Racism is a key property of it.

Is Kauthar a Republican?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Wesigaard
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Founded: Dec 14, 2015
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Postby Wesigaard » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:32 am

Pro:
- Abolition of the modern, democratic state
- Establishment of decentralized, local monarchies along ethnic and cultural lines
- Submission to local monarchs in exchange for protection
- Voting rights for property owners (while we still live under a democratic system)
- Legalization of controlled substances
- Absolute right to gun ownership
- Absolute free speech
- Religion
- Death penalty
- Merchant capitalism
- Non-Interventionism
- Abolition of income taxation
- Abolition of corporate taxes
- Deregulation

Anti:
- Liberalism
- Universal Suffrage
- Democracy
- Redistribution of wealth
- Illegal Immigration
- Multiculturalism
- Israel
- Palestine
- Secularism

Because everyone else is doing it.
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Kauthar
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Postby Kauthar » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:37 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:The Party of Lincoln;invented to stop racism and no Racism is a key property of it.

Is Kauthar a Republican?

I'm a bionationalist and economically I'd say I'm mixed.
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MERIZoC
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:15 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Kauthar wrote:By native american do you mean proper native american or are you like a white SJW who says "I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN!! I'M 1/256TH CHEROKEE!!!" ?

The SJW's actually hate when people do that. Usually it's white upper middle class people who frequent Whole Foods.

Can confirm. :p
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The Grey Wolf
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:19 am

Kelinfort wrote:-Ending Corporatism


As a real, actual corporatist, it's insanely frustrating when people misuse that word to refer to crony capitalism.

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Kelinfort
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:55 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:-Ending Corporatism


As a real, actual corporatist, it's insanely frustrating when people misuse that word to refer to crony capitalism.

Corporatism, also known as corporativism, is the sociopolitical organization of a society by major interest groups, or corporate groups, such as agricultural, business, ethnic, labour, military, patronage, or scientific affiliations, on the basis of common interests.


I oppose both nor am I using corporatism to describe corruption.

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Jochistan
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Founded: Nov 02, 2014
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Postby Jochistan » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:16 pm

Kauthar wrote:
Jochistan wrote:Several, several people here seem to be in favor of it. Not just here. Practically everywhere. Disagreeing with them gets you labeled a "cuck" or a "progressive" or something.

I just got it. You met a closet homo on twitter who had AltRight and 14/88 in his bio. That or you watched a Ramzpaul or Common Filth video and read the comments

The thing is, I dont have to lurk /pol/ or Stormfront or the comments of an Angelo John Gage or Common Filth video to see hordes of natsocs and "Alternative Rightists".

I just have to go on NSG or pretty much any other forum now.

Also, how do you think you differ from a natsoc on twitter who describes himself as altright and rambles on about race mixing and foreign hordes? Do you even think you differ?

Natsocs are just giving rightists a bad name and dedicating their time to annoying everyone outside their fringe hugbox.
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Pro: Moral Conservatism, Nationalism, Rationalism, Theocracy, Traditionalism, Golden Age of Islam, Corporal and Capital Punishment, Ethnic Mixing, Integration, Stranka Demokratske Akcije, Kosovo, Tibet, Ichkeria, el Sisi.
Anti: Salafism, Khomeinism, Racial Ultranationalism, Xenophobic Populism, Progressivism, Communism, Hedonism, Pacifism, Multiculturalism, Nihilism, Israel, Hamas, Serbia and friends, China.
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The Kievan People
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Posts: 11387
Founded: Jul 02, 2004
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:42 pm

Ooooohhhh looks fun

Pro:
- Parliamentary democracy
- Popular sovereignty
- Nation
- Heimat
- Retributive justice
- Atlanticism
- Catholicism
- Judaism
- Zionism + Israel
- Economic equality
- Homogeneity
- Assimilation
- Death penalty
- Protectionism
- NATO
- American hegemony
- Public education
- Public healthcare
- Western civilization
- Japan & Taiwan
- Nuclear deterrence
- Western energy independence
- Binary gender

Anti:
- Cosmopolitanism
- Islam
- The Islamic world
- Free movement of people/capital/goods (internationally)
- Constitutionalism
- Judicialization
- Refugees
- Foreign aid
- Elitism
- The rich
- Aristocracy
- Consumerism
- International law
- The UN
- Nuclear disarmament
- Saudi oil
- Russian gas
- Chinese manufacturing
- Outsourcing
- Economic convergence
- Restorative justice
- Abortion
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Literallystalin
Spokesperson
 
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Founded: Jun 02, 2012
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Postby Literallystalin » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:43 pm

Pro-American hegemony, anti-American policy. Makes sense...?

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