Do women ever see this as sexism?

[Fortitudinem]

Dude what women can't fit in their pockets they put in those things that 're hangin usually over their shoulders. You know.....their enormous gucci/prada/ whatever bags.

On the contrary, I can see as sexism towards dudes that new lame-ass fashion that hears in the name man-bags. Wtf. Men don't need handbags, just more pockets.

I can't see myself carrying a laptop in a pocket. Or the up to 20 notebooks I need in a day. And a bunch of books. And having your arms occupied makes it inconvenient when walking with your special someone because then you can't put your arm around her. (And therefore make her happier, in the case of she and I)

Yeah, I'm not a fan of shorts either. And yeah, it seems girls who want to be modest would have to put in extra effort :/

Yeah, I've observed this effort, as most of my friends are female, they have to do stuff like double-layering and wearing hoodies because the lack of modest clothing on the market.

[Fortitudinem]

To add to that, you guys (and yes, I am speaking to the men and teenage boys here) should keep in mind that women aren't generally dressing for you. They're dressing for themselves. So if a woman likes the way she feels in some skinny jeans, you should top acting like she's trying to be sexy for you or for anyone other than herself.


Seriously dudes, the world does not revolve around you.

I already know this.

[Fireye]

Granted, the bigger frustration (for me, anyway) is the tiny-ass pockets we get stuck with. Like, I have jeans with pockets that can't fit a few bills reliably, despite being a person who will shop for a while in an attempt to get pants with pockets. Sometimes they just don't exist.

This drives my girlfriend crazy as well.

One of the common curses in our apartment is "stupid girl pockets."

[Haktiva]

I'd say just don't buy them, choose another retailer or make your own, or learn how to if you're like me and don't know how to spin thread.

The market is susceptible to the demands of the person with money. Money talks.

[Ifreann]

I'd say just don't buy them, choose another retailer or make your own, or learn how to if you're like me and don't know how to spin thread.

The market is susceptible to the demands of the person with money. Money talks.

Very large amounts of money talks. What one woman has in her purse(or tiny jeans pockets, or bra) mumbles at a concert.

[Haktiva]

I'd say just don't buy them, choose another retailer or make your own, or learn how to if you're like me and don't know how to spin thread.

The market is susceptible to the demands of the person with money. Money talks.

Very large amounts of money talks. What one woman has in her purse(or tiny jeans pockets, or bra) mumbles at a concert.

women in large numbers can cause a hell of a ruckus(like cackling harpies except this is more legit). get enough of them behind it and let's see what happens.

[Ifreann]

Very large amounts of money talks. What one woman has in her purse(or tiny jeans pockets, or bra) mumbles at a concert.

women in large numbers can cause a hell of a ruckus(like cackling harpies except this is more legit). get enough of them behind it and let's see what happens.

If I were in a position to organise large numbers of women like that I'd probably do something else with them. Flash mob, maybe.

[Haktiva]

women in large numbers can cause a hell of a ruckus(like cackling harpies except this is more legit). get enough of them behind it and let's see what happens.

If I were in a position to organise large numbers of women like that I'd probably do something else with them. Flash mob, maybe.

yeah that would probably get more of them off the couch than anything, who doesn't love attention?

[Shakal]

The considerably poorer quality of women's clothing at the same price point of men's is pretty sexist. If anything, we should be paying less for the same quality because women are generally smaller (thus requiring less fabric) instead of paying the same or more for shittier stuff.


Granted, the bigger frustration (for me, anyway) is the tiny-ass pockets we get stuck with. Like, I have jeans with pockets that can't fit a few bills reliably, despite being a person who will shop for a while in an attempt to get pants with pockets. Sometimes they just don't exist.

True.
as for see through, I don't see much here, but then again I live in Canada...Iced over for 1/3 of the year. The only really gender based clothing I see that kind of bugs me is most Women's jackets have Fur, While mens has Wool or Cotton...

I agree. For NORMAL clothes the discrepency is minimal. Of course for the hippie filled area I live many people simply remake clothes or buy them from specialty shops. Its not really sexist at all.

For you females I give you all my feels. Some of my lady friends have purses that weigh 20lbs full off stuff they need to carry. I honestly dont understand why womens clothes have such small pockets

[Shnercropolis]

i have no problem finding clothing that isn't see-through. i think it is more sexist that men don't have the choice of wearing colorful, patterned clothing that is soft, flowing or see-through.

fashion is a thing of its own that uses sex role stereotypes to manipulate consumers into buying more and paying more than they need.

I tricked them. I wear exclusively old t-shirts and cargo shorts.

[Pan Asian Amercian Coalition]

The considerably poorer quality of women's clothing at the same price point of men's is pretty sexist. If anything, we should be paying less for the same quality because women are generally smaller (thus requiring less fabric) instead of paying the same or more for shittier stuff.


Granted, the bigger frustration (for me, anyway) is the tiny-ass pockets we get stuck with. Like, I have jeans with pockets that can't fit a few bills reliably, despite being a person who will shop for a while in an attempt to get pants with pockets. Sometimes they just don't exist.

Eh. If people payed less, then the manufacturers would have to charge less, simple economics. Then again, I'm a decadent American male that buys all most of his clothes at the military surplus store or at smaller retailers. Smaller retailers and off brand stuff generally strikes a good balance between cost and durability, so that's where I'd look if you want cheaper stuff, or just buy smaller men's clothes. If you can sew then you can basically do whatever you want. I

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

i have no problem finding clothing that isn't see-through. i think it is more sexist that men don't have the choice of wearing colorful, patterned clothing that is soft, flowing or see-through.

fashion is a thing of its own that uses sex role stereotypes to manipulate consumers into buying more and paying more than they need.

Eh, Ashmoria pretty much said what I was thinking.

[Katganistan]

Not if I want them to fit, no.

You see, I have hips that are shaped in a way that men's hips generally aren't...


Also, men's jeans generally have a bit extra room up front that I honestly don't need.

Don't belts compensate?

Why should it be necessary to make due with clothes that do not fit properly?

[Katganistan]

They can. They just cost a fortune.

But.... But... We just need to reach an age where clothes are completely personalized.

That age is now. If you want custom fit clothing but don't want to pay to have it made that way you have two choices:

1. Get clothes, bring to tailor to have altered.
2. Get a sewing machine, learn to make your own custom fitted clothes.

[Katganistan]

I had to get a tailored suit, how do you think my wallet feels?

Again, we need to get to a stage where clothing is more personalised.

Like... when probably your great grandmothers were raising their families?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Again, we need to get to a stage where clothing is more personalised.

Like... when probably your great grandmothers were raising their families?

Perhaps it's just me but even with mass produced clothing, you can, with the proper accessories and with your own personal style, create outfits that are highly personalized.

[Keyboard Warriors]

All clothes are just space-aged polymer that stretch and adjust to fit the wearer.

And water-proof.

Rain coats? You'd heat up so fast in a waterproof shirt and unlike a rain coat, you can't take it off to cool down if you aren't wearing anything underneath. Well you can, but most wouldn't.

But.... But... We just need to reach an age where clothes are completely personalized.

That age is now. If you want custom fit clothing but don't want to pay to have it made that way you have two choices:

1. Get clothes, bring to tailor to have altered.
2. Get a sewing machine, learn to make your own custom fitted clothes.

Basically this. Putting a tuck in your pants or taking the cuffs up is something that anybody could do, even without a sewing machine.

[Katganistan]

Like... when probably your great grandmothers were raising their families?

Perhaps it's just me but even with mass produced clothing, you can, with the proper accessories and with your own personal style, create outfits that are highly personalized.

United RussoAsia was speaking more in the context of personalized fitting, as I read it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Perhaps it's just me but even with mass produced clothing, you can, with the proper accessories and with your own personal style, create outfits that are highly personalized.

United RussoAsia was speaking more in the context of personalized fitting, as I read it.

Upon further reading into his post, I guess I see what you mean.

[Pope Joan]

Women's underwear can be like tissue. It does not hold up in the wash. I have no idea why this is true. I think the best and most durable line is Jockey for Her.

[Dakini]

What the fuck are you talking about?

The fact that they have to have allowances for the larger chest area. At least dress shirts tend to be.

They're not made of more pieces. There's typically a bit of darting, but that's additional stitches, not additional pieces.

Women's clothing also tends to be much smaller than men's clothing since women are generally smaller than men.

[Dakini]

This is a problem, yes. There's also the thing of women's cosmetic things costing more than those of men, but I don't know if that's a question of quality.
Men's jeans tend to also cost more than women's.

Since when? My partner and I bought jeans at the same place in December and we paid the same, despite his jeans using a hell of a lot more fabric than mine.

[Katganistan]

Women's underwear can be like tissue. It does not hold up in the wash. I have no idea why this is true. I think the best and most durable line is Jockey for Her.

True that! And True that, too!

[Novorobo]

Like, I don't really look around women's clothing or anything and I am not sure if it's like this here in the UAE (I'm only 16 in a quite conservative family with no older sister so little experience around for me), but I've read on the internet up and around it that female shirts are mostly really thin and they have to constantly layer it? Considering that men's clothes are always thick enough not to be see through, if I was a girl and being my modest self I'd want to sue the industry for sexism

Doesn't this imply that women prefer the thinner clothes and that men prefer the thicker clothes, then?

Granted, sometimes clothes aren't purchased by the same sex as the wearer, but I would think even then the complaints of the wearer would eventually feed back into the effects on consumer demand.

[Dakini]

Women's underwear can be like tissue. It does not hold up in the wash. I have no idea why this is true. I think the best and most durable line is Jockey for Her.

My underwear is generally fine. It wears out after several years, but that's sort of what happens.

edit: But then I don't ever put my underwear in the dryer...