Look, I'm not normally the type to report shit, but...

[The Parkus Empire]

This was posted in the thread on porn.

not immoral in the least. 2/3rds tasteless though, and the good stuff is mostly illegal because fanatics demand too young to sag is too young to show off.

[Transnapastain]

Posting to state I've noticed this report and it's being looked at.

[Transnapastain]

There is absolutely no evidence, that I am aware of, to implicate that Cameroi specifically meant "underage" when he posted. If there are other posts by this user that you, or anyone else, feels should be examined, I encourage you to link them here.

My belief is that "old enough to sag" does not necessarily equate to a person under the age of 18. I can see where the initial reaction, and thus the report, came from, but what we have here is a chain of implications from "The good stuff is illegal" to "I like child porn" to "I watch child porn". Those implications do not necessarily pan out and convicting on implication alone is wrong.

Regardless of intent, the subject of child pornography, including a users opinion of its legality or quality, does not really belong on NS in any fashion. As most users are aware, discussion thereof has caused trouble in the past, and we seek to never repeat that trouble. Given that we have a high school aged user base, and classroom interactions, posters should refrain from discussion such sexual topics on the forum, especially those which are illegal where the majority of our user base reside.

[The Parkus Empire]

How does a kind of porn being illegal due to the youth of those involved, not specifically indicate underage?

[Transnapastain]

How does a kind of porn being illegal due to the youth of those involved, not specifically indicate underage?

I see how it's possible to misinterpret my post. Even still, the existence of one post, and the implications it assumes, is not a damming enough offense to earn the user a treatment reserved for more obvious offenders.

Further action may be taken after discussions conclude, but I did not want this to sit long, and thought an initial statement covering "implication =/= guilt" and more importantly "How about we don't talk about such things" be made as soon as possible.

[The Parkus Empire]

Okay, gotcha. I appreciate it.

[Dyakovo]

That's how I read it as well.

any rational definition of PHYSICAL "childhood", ends at puberty.
spiritual/moral/intellectual/emotional/maturity/responsibility, can be achieved or fail to be, at ANY age.
it has absolutely nothing to do with chronological age.
it can be gained and lost and gained again.
one can be born with it. one can go entirely through life never attaining it.
while those born mature are extremely rare, those who die, never having attained it, are all too damnably common,
as exemplified by every from of fanaticism and prejudice. including those who demand the rest of us pretend maturity is in any way tied to chronological age.
the only thing anyone has more of after ANY arbitrary designated chronological age, besides the grace of governments and law, is more accumulated raw data, upon which to base, more or less 'informed' conclusions.

Confirmation that he(she?) was talking about child porn.

[The Blaatschapen]

any rational definition of PHYSICAL "childhood", ends at puberty.
spiritual/moral/intellectual/emotional/maturity/responsibility, can be achieved or fail to be, at ANY age.
it has absolutely nothing to do with chronological age.
it can be gained and lost and gained again.
one can be born with it. one can go entirely through life never attaining it.
while those born mature are extremely rare, those who die, never having attained it, are all too damnably common,
as exemplified by every from of fanaticism and prejudice. including those who demand the rest of us pretend maturity is in any way tied to chronological age.
the only thing anyone has more of after ANY arbitrary designated chronological age, besides the grace of governments and law, is more accumulated raw data, upon which to base, more or less 'informed' conclusions.

Confirmation that he(she?) was talking about child porn.

Thank you for this Dyakovo, I've reported it back to the rest of us in the treehouse.

[Dyakovo]

Something for the mod team to consider: Since NS is used in schools, it probably is not in the site's best interest to be giving the impression that you condone child porn/molestation, Hebephilia or Ephebophilia, which is exactly the impression that will be presented if nothing is done about this. Especially after the ZS debacle.

[Euroslavia]

Something for the mod team to consider: Since NS is used in schools, it probably is not in the site's best interest to be giving the impression that you condone child porn/molestation, Hebephilia or Ephebophilia, which is exactly the impression that will be presented if nothing is done about this. Especially after the ZS debacle.

Which is why we're currently discussing this. Please, be patient.

[The Parkus Empire]

Has anything been done here?

[The Blaatschapen]

Has anything been done here?

Which is why we're currently discussing this. Please, be patient.

[The Parkus Empire]

Okay, thanks. Just making sure.

[Dyakovo]

Any decision yet?

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

As an update, there is not a final decision yet as we have not received all the information we're attempting to gather prior to bringing it to a conclusion. I for one would prefer we're thorough rather than make any off-the-cuff calls. Hope that answers for now, and hope we'll have a definitive answer soon. Thank you for your patience.

[Dyakovo]

As an update, there is not a final decision yet as we have not received all the information we're attempting to gather prior to bringing it to a conclusion. I for one would prefer we're thorough rather than make any off-the-cuff calls. Hope that answers for now, and hope we'll have a definitive answer soon. Thank you for your patience.

Thanks for the update.

[Cameroi]

well my statement is certainly not an advocacy of anything other then honesty.

adolescence, is NOT childhood, and nudity, even for erotic purposes, is not an act of sexual intercourse.

and i'm sorry, but i do find the pretension of labeling adolescence as childhood OFFENSIVE TO ME.

obviously i am not advocating fertilization of persons not physically able to reproduce without surgery.

but the religions fanaticism of agism is as evil and immoral as any and every other form of prejudice.

i certainly hope this clarifies my honest position and belief on this matter.

it is also by no means any wish of mine, to increase the birthrate, in a world already burdened with an excess of humanity.

[Esternial]

These may be relevant:

viewtopic.php?p=16632484#p16632484
viewtopic.php?p=16744925#p16744925
viewtopic.php?p=16747340#p16747340
viewtopic.php?p=478021#p478021
viewtopic.php?p=1578743#p1578743
viewtopic.php?p=1578910#p1578910
viewtopic.php?p=1815096#p1815096
viewtopic.php?p=1815506#p1815506
viewtopic.php?p=146625#p146625
viewtopic.php?p=12064956#p12064956
viewtopic.php?p=12861332#p12861332

Some aren't as obvious as others, but given the context of each thread you may notice a thin red line.

EDIT(s): Some linking issues for a sec, there.

[NERVUN]

These may be relevant:

viewtopic.php?p=16632484#p16632484
viewtopic.php?p=16744925#p16744925
viewtopic.php?p=16747340#p16747340
viewtopic.php?p=478021#p478021
viewtopic.php?p=1578743#p1578743
viewtopic.php?p=1578910#p1578910
viewtopic.php?p=1815096#p1815096
viewtopic.php?p=1815506#p1815506
viewtopic.php?p=146625#p146625
viewtopic.php?p=12064956#p12064956
viewtopic.php?p=12861332#p12861332

Some aren't as obvious as others, but given the context of each thread you may notice a thin red line.

EDIT(s): Some linking issues for a sec, there.

Thanks for the list, we're adding it into the discussion

[[violet]]

Thanks for the report. We feel the post is unacceptably close to an endorsement of illegal activity, and as such are *** warning for it. *** The poster may not have meant it this way, but it's sufficiently ambiguous to allow a reasonable person to make that interpretation.

We're satisfied there is no wider behavior from this poster that would justify further action at this time.

[Fartsniffage]

Thanks for the report. We feel the post is unacceptably close to an endorsement of illegal activity, and as such are *** warning for it. *** The poster may not have meant it this way, but it's sufficiently ambiguous to allow a reasonable person to make that interpretation.

We're satisfied there is no wider behavior from this poster that would justify further action at this time.

Which post? There have been many linked to in this thread.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

The reported post. Other posts were linked to illustrate what others thought was a pattern of behavior. Those were also taken into consideration.

[Fartsniffage]

The reported post. Other posts were linked to illustrate what others thought was a pattern of behavior. Those were also taken into consideration.

While I agree with the point about the first post being ambiguous and the second post in the thread being difficult to parse, indeed I argued the same in defence of Cameroi elsewhere, I'm struggling to understand how the post in this very thread can be seen as anything other than clear support of making images of and sexual contact with minors.

Can you help me out here?

[Blasveck]

These may be relevant:

viewtopic.php?p=16632484#p16632484
viewtopic.php?p=16744925#p16744925
viewtopic.php?p=16747340#p16747340
viewtopic.php?p=478021#p478021
viewtopic.php?p=1578743#p1578743
viewtopic.php?p=1578910#p1578910
viewtopic.php?p=1815096#p1815096
viewtopic.php?p=1815506#p1815506
viewtopic.php?p=146625#p146625
viewtopic.php?p=12064956#p12064956
viewtopic.php?p=12861332#p12861332

Some aren't as obvious as others, but given the context of each thread you may notice a thin red line.

EDIT(s): Some linking issues for a sec, there.

I'd seriously like to know how all this right here isn't deserving of anything more than a little warning.

A little more clarification would be nice.

[Blazedtown]

well my statement is certainly not an advocacy of anything other then honesty.

adolescence, is NOT childhood, and nudity, even for erotic purposes, is not an act of sexual intercourse.

and i'm sorry, but i do find the pretension of labeling adolescence as childhood OFFENSIVE TO ME.

obviously i am not advocating fertilization of persons not physically able to reproduce without surgery.

but the religions fanaticism of agism is as evil and immoral as any and every other form of prejudice.

i certainly hope this clarifies my honest position and belief on this matter.

it is also by no means any wish of mine, to increase the birthrate, in a world already burdened with an excess of humanity.

You give in to a butthurt crusade over a certain Finnish American nationalist but don't see a clear cut pedophile as a problem on a forum aimed at young people.

What the hell?