Ostroeuropa wrote:Ailiailia wrote:
This "pledge" is complete bullshit, with or without God in it. No-one should be required to take a pledge (least of all children who are legally incapable of making any binding pledge), and in the rare circumstances where a pledge may be neccessary the wording should be as simple as possible. Eg, "I promise to tell the truth" or "without any intent of deception or evasion, I declare ..."
No-one should be required to swear in words, allegiance or loyalty to "this flag". It's just plain stupid.
No! Keep the wording "under God" right there in the pledge. It's deadweight which will help to sink the pledge itself. Down with the pledge!
I disagree. I think soldiers should have to take the pledge, other than that though i'm incredibly skeptical of the process.
There is no need for soldiers, Marines, airmen or sailors to do the pledge of allegiance. They already have the oath of enlistment.
Oath of Enlistment wrote:I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
The "So help me God" needs to be removed from that as well.