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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:14 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:It is? And we should legalize plural marriages next?

I don't see what you're arguing.

NO it should all be done at the exact same time.
Legalized that is.


There are certain issues that need to be worked out for when a person is married to many people that do not need to be worked out for same sex couples. Once those issues are solved, I'm all for it.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:14 pm

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Lessnt wrote:NO it should all be done at the exact same time.
Legalized that is.

All or nothing, eh? No, thanks.

Shit, I'm probably the loudest activist for poly marriage on the forum, and one of two resident tax professionals, and even I realize poly marriage needs some planning behind it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:15 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:All or nothing, eh? No, thanks.

Shit, I'm probably the loudest activist for poly marriage on the forum, and one of two resident tax professionals, and even I realize poly marriage needs some planning behind it.

Just a little, yeah.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:17 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Shit, I'm probably the loudest activist for poly marriage on the forum, and one of two resident tax professionals, and even I realize poly marriage needs some planning behind it.

Just a little, yeah.

Heh, before we can even discuss the ins and outs, we have to decide if we're planning hub and spoke marriage or block marriage.
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Postby Lessnt » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:30 pm

What problems are there with a poly marriage?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:33 pm

Lessnt wrote:What problems are there with a poly marriage?

Whether to create hub and spoke marriage or block marriage, Equitable taxation, next of kin determination/rights, divorce, inheritance, child custody... for starters.
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Postby Lessnt » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lessnt wrote:What problems are there with a poly marriage?

Whether to create hub and spoke marriage or block marriage, Equitable taxation, next of kin determination/rights, divorce, inheritance, child custody... for starters.

That is all decided in the contract.
AKA it can all be improvised.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:39 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Galloism wrote:Whether to create hub and spoke marriage or block marriage, Equitable taxation, next of kin determination/rights, divorce, inheritance, child custody... for starters.

That is all decided in the contract.
AKA it can all be improvised.

Not really. Keep in mind poly marriage may not take place all at one time.

Members could join or leave.

A legal framework, much like current marriage laws, must be in play.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Just a little, yeah.

Heh, before we can even discuss the ins and outs, we have to decide if we're planning hub and spoke marriage or block marriage.

Or line marriages?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Heh, before we can even discuss the ins and outs, we have to decide if we're planning hub and spoke marriage or block marriage.

Or line marriages?

Entirely possible with block marriages. Hub and spoke, however, would see the death of the hub eventually.

I don't think it's likely to occur often, if at all, though.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Eldarion Telcontar » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:47 pm

Svizzra wrote:NOBODY

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Postby Lessnt » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:48 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lessnt wrote:That is all decided in the contract.
AKA it can all be improvised.

Not really. Keep in mind poly marriage may not take place all at one time.

Members could join or leave.

A legal framework, much like current marriage laws, must be in play.

Why?
You can always say it has to take place all at one time.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:50 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not really. Keep in mind poly marriage may not take place all at one time.

Members could join or leave.

A legal framework, much like current marriage laws, must be in play.

Why?
You can always say it has to take place all at one time.

And you can always say that it doesn't.
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Postby Defensor » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:50 pm

Donald Draper wrote:Although I am against homosexuality, I don't see any harm being emitted if homosexual marriages were legalized. Its more of a subjective issue than a general, objective one, if you ask me.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:50 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not really. Keep in mind poly marriage may not take place all at one time.

Members could join or leave.

A legal framework, much like current marriage laws, must be in play.

Why?
You can always say it has to take place all at one time.

Practicality.

Divorces are messy, and costly (doubly so if the case is Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson). Requiring a divorce and seperation of all marital assets each time a member joined or left would be administratively ridiculous.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Why?
You can always say it has to take place all at one time.

Practicality.

Divorces are messy, and costly (doubly so if the case is Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson). Requiring a divorce and seperation of all marital assets each time a member joined or left would be administratively ridiculous.

But lawyerly lucrative.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Practicality.

Divorces are messy, and costly (doubly so if the case is Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson). Requiring a divorce and seperation of all marital assets each time a member joined or left would be administratively ridiculous.

But lawyerly lucrative.


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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:53 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:But lawyerly lucrative.

Yes, but we don't care about lawyers. :p

Only until they sue us. :P
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:54 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Yes, but we don't care about lawyers. :p

Only until they sue us. :P


Yes, but... but... wait... Ok, you're right. I can't debate that. :p
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Practicality.

Divorces are messy, and costly (doubly so if the case is Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson v. Wilson). Requiring a divorce and seperation of all marital assets each time a member joined or left would be administratively ridiculous.

But lawyerly lucrative.

Most congressmen are lawyers.

We simply title it the "Attorney Reinvestment Act". They won't read it closely.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Emporer Pudu » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:56 pm

I live above a chapel that marries gays and whenever they ring the bells I get a nosebleed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:57 pm

Emporer Pudu wrote:I live above a chapel that marries gays and whenever they ring the bells I get a nosebleed.

So move to a state where that can't happen. :p
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:57 pm

Emporer Pudu wrote:I live above a chapel that marries gays and whenever they ring the bells I get a nosebleed.

Living in the bell was probably a poor choice.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Sondaria » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:01 pm

Galloism wrote:
Emporer Pudu wrote:I live above a chapel that marries gays and whenever they ring the bells I get a nosebleed.

Living in the bell was probably a poor choice.

Quite.
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Postby Emperor Pudu » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:02 pm

Galloism wrote:
Emporer Pudu wrote:I live above a chapel that marries gays and whenever they ring the bells I get a nosebleed.

Living in the bell was probably a poor choice.


No security deposit and I needed a landlord that was cool with my pigeons, what am I supposed to do?
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