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[Seperates]

Why would a non jew ever marry a jew?

And last time I checked being a 'Jew' was a religion thing not an ethnic one so.... who cares?

It is a nation, that means both Ethnical, and Cultural (That includes Religion).

"Ethnic" Judaism is kinda hard to pin down. Technically speaking it's ethnically Hebrew, but so many Jews are so far removed from being ethnically Hebrew that it doesn't really matter that much anymore.

[Ashkland]

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You can convert quite easily.

Funny story about that. I have a friend from Jordan (his name is Mohammed, surprise surprise) who spent the last 2 years studying in Israel. He speaks perfect Hebrew without any Arabic accent (good enough to get past the checkpoints without a second look). He really likes Israel because he thinks it takes the best parts of the cultures from Europe and Arabia. He is currently in the US, where he's already made friends with the local Israelis and goes by the name "Mo Ben-Haim." He wants to move back here, but you know how eager the government is to give visas to Arabs. The requirements for conversion are a minimum 18 month intensive course AND he has to live in the community for a year afterwards. Easy, huh?

He shall not come to our country.
BTW, just curious, are all of your friends Arabs?

[Seperates]

Not really, they'll chop off a piece of my body. I don't consider that 'easily'.

Circumcision when converting isn't mandatory for all sects, afaik.

Odd, considering that that was part of the orginal covanent...

[Divair]

Circumcision when converting isn't mandatory for all sects, afaik.

Odd, considering that that was part of the orginal covanent...

Religions not following their original rules to the letter? Colour me very shocked.

[Genivaria]

Odd, considering that that was part of the orginal covanent...

Religions not following their original rules to the letter? Colour me very shocked.

SHOCKED I SAY!

[Divair]

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You can convert quite easily.

Funny story about that. I have a friend from Jordan (his name is Mohammed, surprise surprise) who spent the last 2 years studying in Israel. He speaks perfect Hebrew without any Arabic accent (good enough to get past the checkpoints without a second look). He really likes Israel because he thinks it takes the best parts of the cultures from Europe and Arabia. He is currently in the US, where he's already made friends with the local Israelis and goes by the name "Mo Ben-Haim." He wants to move back here, but you know how eager the government is to give visas to Arabs. The requirements for conversion are a minimum 18 month intensive course AND he has to live in the community for a year afterwards. Easy, huh?

That's not really conversion, just persecution with regards to Arabic immigrants. If an American were to move here and convert, it'd be seriously easy.

[Risottia]

Definitely shaggable, but looks a bit too Germanic for my tastes.

It's still an above average way to die.

Yeah, I could accept that.

[Seperates]

Odd, considering that that was part of the orginal covanent...

Religions not following their original rules to the letter? Colour me very shocked.

Well, it's not even that so much as it is such an important part of the orginal covanent that I can't see what possible justification they could have for overlooking it.

[Ashkland]

Funny story about that. I have a friend from Jordan (his name is Mohammed, surprise surprise) who spent the last 2 years studying in Israel. He speaks perfect Hebrew without any Arabic accent (good enough to get past the checkpoints without a second look). He really likes Israel because he thinks it takes the best parts of the cultures from Europe and Arabia. He is currently in the US, where he's already made friends with the local Israelis and goes by the name "Mo Ben-Haim." He wants to move back here, but you know how eager the government is to give visas to Arabs. The requirements for conversion are a minimum 18 month intensive course AND he has to live in the community for a year afterwards. Easy, huh?

That's not really conversion, just persecution with regards to Arabic immigrants. If an American were to move here and convert, it'd be seriously easy.

It should not be, in fact, Halachic convertions should be not be done anymore.

[Divair]

Religions not following their original rules to the letter? Colour me very shocked.

Well, it's not even that so much as it is such an important part of the orginal covanent that I can't see what possible justification they could have for overlooking it.

Their thinking:
'converts pls'


Simple as that, really.

[Risottia]

jews have big cocks, (shrug).

Livorno has a large jewish population and they're famous for their cocks.

[Disserbia]

...aaaaaaandddd untranationalism rears it's ugly, bigoted head again. You don't preserve your culture by isolating yourself from the rest of the world and acting as if everyone is trying to destroy you, if you don't adapt you will be forgotten.

Unfortunately, ultranationalism has got nothing to do with races or eugenics. You can have latter without the former.

That doesn't change the basis of what this here thread is.

[Seperates]

Well, it's not even that so much as it is such an important part of the orginal covanent that I can't see what possible justification they could have for overlooking it.

Their thinking:
'converts pls'


Simple as that, really.

Bleh... so much disregard for cultural heritage it hurts.

[Dyakovo]

Why would a non jew ever marry a jew?

And last time I checked being a 'Jew' was a religion thing not an ethnic one so.... who cares?

It is a nation, that means both Ethnical, and Cultural (That includes Religion).

No, "Jew" is not a nation.

[Ashkland]

It is a nation, that means both Ethnical, and Cultural (That includes Religion).

No, "Jew" is not a nation.

The Jews are a nation!

[Dyakovo]

That's not really conversion, just persecution with regards to Arabic immigrants. If an American were to move here and convert, it'd be seriously easy.

It should not be, in fact, Halachic convertions should be not be done anymore.

"OMG There's not enough Jews!!!1!1!!!"
"Don't convert to Judaism!!!1!"
WTF?

[Dyakovo]

No, "Jew" is not a nation.

The Jews are a nation!

No.

[Ovisterra]

No, "Jew" is not a nation.

The Jews are a nation!

Really? You can just do that?

Irreligious people are now a nation. If you come into my house, you're invading and I get to declare war.

[Ashkland]

It should not be, in fact, Halachic convertions should be not be done anymore.

"OMG There's not enough Jews!!!1!1!!!"
"Don't convert to Judaism!!!1!"
WTF?

I care about both being ethnicly and culturally Jewish.
Marrying converts is the same as marrying Gentiles pretty much.

[Divair]

The Jews are a nation!

Really? You can just do that?

Irreligious people are now a nation. If you come into my house, you're invading and I get to declare war.

Can I move into the irreligious nation?

Ooh, can we occupy Vancouver as our capital?

[The Emerald Dawn]

Really? You can just do that?

Irreligious people are now a nation. If you come into my house, you're invading and I get to declare war.

Can I move into the irreligious nation?

Ooh, can we occupy Vancouver as our capital?

OCCUPY CANUCKISTAN!

[Divair]

Can I move into the irreligious nation?

Ooh, can we occupy Vancouver as our capital?

OCCUPY CANUCKISTAN!

Hell yeah!

[Khalifa Arabia]

"OMG There's not enough Jews!!!1!1!!!"
"Don't convert to Judaism!!!1!"
WTF?

I care about both being ethnicly and culturally Jewish.
Marrying converts is the same as marrying Gentiles pretty much.

Have you ever thought that this attitude is precisely why Jewish people have been persecuted? You say "protect the ethnicity and culture", others think "keep things 'pure'".

[Dyakovo]

"OMG There's not enough Jews!!!1!1!!!"
"Don't convert to Judaism!!!1!"
WTF?

I care about both being ethnicly and culturally Jewish.
Marrying converts is the same as marrying Gentiles pretty much.

So... You want to set up the Fourth Reich?
Seriously, why does what other people do matter so much to you?

Not to mention, that if you're interested in ethnic purity you should be in favor of Arabs converting to Judaism...

[Disserbia]

I care about both being ethnicly and culturally Jewish.
Marrying converts is the same as marrying Gentiles pretty much.

Have you ever thought that this attitude is precisely why Jewish people have been persecuted? You say "protect the ethnicity and culture", others think "keep things 'pure'".

We have a winner.