U.S. military allows women in combat

[Czechanada]

What about Mr. Chester Nimitz, who has over two miles and a million tons of floating metal death named after him?

Don't forget Spruance.

The Great Souled are not afraid of anyone.

Yeah, not impressed. Sorry. No, I'm actually not sorry.

So as to get back on topic, what about women in the air force? They've been in combat roles for a while in other nations' air forces.

You can't put women in the navy; Their breasts would weigh down all the ships and submarines.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Don't forget Spruance.

Yeah, not impressed. Sorry. No, I'm actually not sorry.

So as to get back on topic, what about women in the air force? They've been in combat roles for a while in other nations' air forces.

You can't put women in the navy; Their breasts would weigh down all the ships and submarines.

Meh, spare anchors.

[Souseiseki]

I see the generals have been playing too much Mount & Blade: Warband.

[Since women are now allowed in combat, you should take the title of Imperial Milfguard.

You can't put women in the navy; Their breasts would weigh down all the ships and submarines.

a true philosopher of our time

[Strykla]

Don't forget Spruance.

Yeah, not impressed. Sorry. No, I'm actually not sorry.

So as to get back on topic, what about women in the air force? They've been in combat roles for a while in other nations' air forces.

You can't put women in the navy; Their breasts would weigh down all the ships and submarines.

Only in your dreams, smartass.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

I see the generals have been playing too much Mount & Blade: Warband.

[Since women are now allowed in combat, you should take the title of Imperial Milfguard.

You can't put women in the navy; Their breasts would weigh down all the ships and submarines.

a true philosopher of our time

He isn't being serious. Nobody in their right mind actually believes that women are that heavy.
To be a true political philosopher or theorist you must purge the mind of all satire and humor.

And don't you dare bring up Voltaire! He is as weak willed as the rest.

[Priory Academy USSR]

Holy smeg. I never realised the US (and a quick search reveals UK, too) military blocked women from active combat. I thought we were past the 1950's?

[Myrensis]

But what is the cost of equality, lowering standards for soldiers?

Your source says nothing about lowering standards.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

[Priory Academy USSR]

Your source says nothing about lowering standards.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

That really should be changed.

[Sondstead]

He isn't being serious. Nobody in their right mind actually believes that women are that heavy.
To be a true political philosopher or theorist you must purge the mind of all satire and humor.

And don't you dare bring up Voltaire! He is as weak willed as the rest.

What do you keep going on about?

[Thafoo]

You just want an excuse to be sexist, and these days downright 1913 sexism is too taboo even for conservatives. So obviously, you make up some bullshit excuse not to allow women in the military.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

That really should be changed.

Agreed. The standards should be equal across the board. However there should be no discrimination amongst those who pass.

[Vareiln]

Your source says nothing about lowering standards.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

That needs to be changed. Women can definitely handle what men can. I've seen it.
I have the feeling that this is only because of gender stereotypes and a need to protect those delicate little beings we call women.

[Frisbeeteria]

Are they afraid of other Great Souled?

No.

What about someone with a Greater Soul? Are there varying degrees of greatness of soul among the Great Souled?

Yes.

I'd go into more detail but this is neither the time nor place.

There is no time. There is no place. You've been warned about this Great Souled threadjacking and trolling before.

*** Seven day forumban for threadjacking and trolling. ***

[Dyakovo]

Your source says nothing about lowering standards.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

Because, of course, this: "The Army and Marine Corps, especially, will be examining physical standards and gender-neutral accommodations within combat units." means that they will be lowering the standards for men down to the women's level...

[The UK in Exile]

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/a/afpt.htm

Physical fitness standards for women in the military are lower than those for men.

In my age group for example, for a bare minimum passing score of 60:

2 Mile Run: Males-17:00, Females-20:30
Pushups: Males-39, Females-17

Only the situp score chart is the same for both genders.

I would sure love to be able to stop in the middle of my run for a 3 and a half minute smoke break, and to do less than half as many pushups and still pass IN THE NAME OF EQUALITY!!

That needs to be changed. Women can definitely handle what men can. I've seen it.
I have the feeling that this is only because of gender stereotypes and a need to protect those delicate little beings we call women.

I Don't know how it is the US army. In the UK the Physical fitness test had different scores for men and women, but the COMBAT fitness test was Gender-Equal.

[Rio Cana]

You just want an excuse to be sexist, and these days downright 1913 sexism is too taboo even for conservatives. So obviously, you make up some bullshit excuse not to allow women in the military.

Did someone mention 1913.

This is what was happening in 1913. Its educational and about women fighting in wars.

Two very short videos which will show women can fight.

Video 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNFw7bvQLg

Video 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Nt9x3gW8U

[Xathranaar]

This is bad, women should not be put in the way of violence.

Indeed. This is why there were keeping the gays out. America must protect its precious gays.

[Czechanada]

This is bad, women should not be put in the way of violence.

Indeed. This is why there were keeping the gays out. America must protect its precious gays.

There is no room for the Onion on NSG.

[Wisconsin9]

Indeed. This is why there were keeping the gays out. America must protect its precious gays.

There is no room for the Onion on NSG.

As someone who enjoys the paper itself, lives in the city in which it was founded, and found great enjoyment in the thread about China copying an article from it, I humbly disagree.

[Agymnum]

It's about damn time the army started modernizing.

[Choronzon]

No.Yes.

I'd go into more detail but this is neither the time nor place.

There is no time. There is no place. You've been warned about this Great Souled threadjacking and trolling before.

*** Seven day forumban for threadjacking and trolling. ***

Wait, so because he answered a question I asked he gets a 7 day ban?

Thats not bullshit at all. More fair and even handed judgement from our wonderful mods.

[Souseiseki]

There is no time. There is no place. You've been warned about this Great Souled threadjacking and trolling before.

*** Seven day forumban for threadjacking and trolling. ***

Wait, so because he answered a question I asked he gets a 7 day ban?

Thats not bullshit at all. More fair and even handed judgement from our wonderful mods.

"i'd go into more detail, but this isn't the time or place. i don't want to thread jack."
"fuck you, 7 day ban thread jacking"

[Myrensis]

Because, of course, this: "The Army and Marine Corps, especially, will be examining physical standards and gender-neutral accommodations within combat units." means that they will be lowering the standards for men down to the women's level...

The real question is whether they will be raising the standards for women up to the men's level. Because if not, then the other posters are correct, they will be lowering the readiness of our combat forces for the sake of PR and "gender equality!"

Though I imagine attempting to enforce higher standards on women will also be called 'misogyny!'

[Agymnum]

Because, of course, this: "The Army and Marine Corps, especially, will be examining physical standards and gender-neutral accommodations within combat units." means that they will be lowering the standards for men down to the women's level...

The real question is whether they will be raising the standards for women up to the men's level. Because if not, then the other posters are correct, they will be lowering the readiness of our combat forces for the sake of PR and "gender equality!"

Though I imagine attempting to enforce higher standards on women will also be called 'misogyny!'

Hey, either way, someone wins.

If they raise the standards, America wins!

If they lower the standards, conservative whiners win!

[Aardenland]

This is bad, women should not be put in the way of violence.

NO ONE should be put in the way of violence, but I think that adult men and women both should have a right to volunteer to do whatever service they can provide for their nation. There isn't a draft anymore, so why don't women volunteer for their own combat units?