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Postby Xomic » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
FranksFreedom wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/colorado-man-arrested-openly-carrying-gun-movie-theater-193011379.html

A man in Co has been arrested for the heinous crime of carrying a gun...after a maniac shot 70 unarmed people in a theater...he was in a theater too...

This is all because somebody might see the gun and say "ooh, shiny, I must have it"and take it...and it says any dangerous weapon too, so what about pepper spray...what a joke

Let the gun grabbing begin...if the (lib) politicians get their way then the 2nd Amendment will be toilet paper within a decade...I just wish a Holmes copycat stormed into the theater while the police were arriving and the guy managed to blow him full of holes before the cops lifted a finger, LOL :rofl:

Tell me, when was Section 38-237(b)(1) of Thornton's Municipal Code written? Before or after the shooting in Aurora?


According to the article's link, which links to a online version of the code, the last modification to that section was in 2003, if I'm reading it right.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:53 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
That's an interesting reason for getting hope.


well, it at least shows me people are still fervant in there beliefs to defend the 2nd amendment.

The second amendment isn't under attack.
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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:54 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
well, it at least shows me people are still fervant in there beliefs to defend the 2nd amendment.

The second amendment isn't under attack.


...when is it NOT under attack?
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Postby Silent Majority » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:54 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
That's an interesting reason for getting hope.


well, it at least shows me people are still fervant in there beliefs to defend the 2nd amendment.



I only wish people were as zealous about their other rights.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:54 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The second amendment isn't under attack.


...when is it NOT under attack?

All the time...
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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:55 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
well, it at least shows me people are still fervant in there beliefs to defend the 2nd amendment.



I only wish people were as zealous about their other rights.


agreed

but freedom of speech and guns are my two big issues
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:57 pm

North Calaveras wrote:agreed

but freedom of speech and guns are my two big issues

Really? Not freedom of the press, freedom of protest, freedom of association? Just speech and guns? Speech, I can understand. But the American masturbatory circlejerk over firearms continues to confuse me.
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:57 pm

North Calaveras wrote:bullshit

he open carrys in the theater before1 and nothing happens but now OH NO hes got a gun

where were all these people beforehand2

fucking knee jerkers.

1: Or so he claims...
2: It was one person that noticed the gun and called the police... Even assuming he is telling the truth about having done it before it is not only possible, but likely that the person who reported him this time has never noticed him carrying a gun into a theatre before.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:58 pm

police don't prevent shooting in a movie theater: people claim more guns are needed as police can't protect them.
police respond to report of person with a gun in movie theater: people claim police are overly authoritarian.

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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:58 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:agreed

but freedom of speech and guns are my two big issues

Really? Not freedom of the press, freedom of protest, freedom of association? Just speech and guns? Speech, I can understand. But the American masturbatory circlejerk over firearms continues to confuse me.


when did i say i didn't care about those?

im just saying speech and guns are my top two that's all, dosn't mean i dont care about the rest lol wtf
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:58 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:agreed

but freedom of speech and guns are my two big issues

Really? Not freedom of the press, freedom of protest, freedom of association? Just speech and guns? Speech, I can understand. But the American masturbatory circlejerk over firearms continues to confuse me.

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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:00 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Bullshit.

It is not a crime to open carry in Colorado. I'm not certain on their laws, but where I live it's not even illegal to openly carry into a place marked with "No firearms" or the like if its a private business unless they ask you to leave in which case if you do not you are defined as 'trespassing'.

He should've been asked to leave if the theater didn't like it (they must not have had a problem with it if they allowed him IN), arresting him because he made somebody nervous is ridiculous, although he did make the right move in immediately surrendering. But I don't see how openly carrying is dangerous or unlawful here.

Edit: After glancing at the Municipalities code here it is easily proven he wasn't breaking any laws (see the very bottom for the open carry restrictions). He wasn't on county property, nothing much else to say.



i totally agree, hell after the shooting i would DEF want a gun if going into a theatre, specially when you have copy cats afterwards

One problem there... You're assuming that any person you see in a theatre with a gun isn't intending to be a copy cat...
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:00 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Really? Not freedom of the press, freedom of protest, freedom of association? Just speech and guns? Speech, I can understand. But the American masturbatory circlejerk over firearms continues to confuse me.


when did i say i didn't care about those?

im just saying speech and guns are my top two that's all, dosn't mean i dont care about the rest lol wtf

You said 'speech and guns' are your 'big issues'. That implies you're more concerned about the ability to own firearms than the right to protest, freely associate, or use the press. :palm:
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:01 pm

North Calaveras wrote:when did i say i didn't care about those?

im just saying speech and guns are my top two that's all, dosn't mean i dont care about the rest lol wtf


Ignoring the "lol wtf" which makes it seem as though you really have no argument anyway, he didn't say that you don't care about those. He said that it's silly that gun rights are at the top of things you care about. The others are much more important. I have no clue how you can argue that, but then again I've seen stranger stuff being debated before.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Dyakovo wrote:One problem there... You're assuming that any person you see in a theatre with a gun isn't intending to be a copy cat...

Also, I really wouldn't want two people discharging firearms in an enclosed room filled with panicking people, especially since one of them would also be panicking. One is bad enough, two is worse.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:02 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Really? Not freedom of the press, freedom of protest, freedom of association? Just speech and guns? Speech, I can understand. But the American masturbatory circlejerk over firearms continues to confuse me.

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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:04 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The second amendment isn't under attack.


...when is it NOT under attack?

As far as I know, right now.
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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:05 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:when did i say i didn't care about those?

im just saying speech and guns are my top two that's all, dosn't mean i dont care about the rest lol wtf


Ignoring the "lol wtf" which makes it seem as though you really have no argument anyway, he didn't say that you don't care about those. He said that it's silly that gun rights are at the top of things you care about. The others are much more important. I have no clue how you can argue that, but then again I've seen stranger stuff being debated before.


when were we arguing....?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:05 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Ignoring the "lol wtf" which makes it seem as though you really have no argument anyway, he didn't say that you don't care about those. He said that it's silly that gun rights are at the top of things you care about. The others are much more important. I have no clue how you can argue that, but then again I've seen stranger stuff being debated before.


when were we arguing....?

You said 'speech and guns' are your 'big issues'. That implies you're more concerned about the ability to own firearms than the right to protest, freely associate, or use the press.
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Postby Avenio » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:05 pm

Xomic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tell me, when was Section 38-237(b)(1) of Thornton's Municipal Code written? Before or after the shooting in Aurora?


According to the article's link, which links to a online version of the code, the last modification to that section was in 2003, if I'm reading it right.


Clearly yet further proof of the liberal time-travelling conspiracy to attack the 2nd amendment.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:06 pm

North Calaveras wrote:when were we arguing....?


Mmkay, we're done here if you came to this thread to jerk off to guns without actually debating the topic.
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:06 pm

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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:07 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:PEW PEW PEW! BANG BANG BANG! KABOOSH! KER-REAGAN!

Don't you foreigners understand?

Reagan is all you had to say, baby. I get it now, why don't we curl up with the latest issue of 'Guns and Ammunition'? ;)

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Postby North Calaveras » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:07 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:when were we arguing....?


Mmkay, we're done here if you came to this thread to jerk off to guns without actually debating the topic.


take a chill pill I'm not here to argue, shit i didn't even know were were aruging all i said was that i find speech and guns most important, im not trying to wank or anything.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:07 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:

i totally agree, hell after the shooting i would DEF want a gun if going into a theatre, specially when you have copy cats afterwards

One problem there... You're assuming that any person you see in a theatre with a gun isn't intending to be a copy cat...

Dude has gun in holster. Is not waving it around nor shooting people nor threatening people. You're assuming anyone in the theater with a gun is a criminal intending to BE a copy cat.
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