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A war of alternate-account-spam

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Calant
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Ex-Nation

A war of alternate-account-spam

Postby Calant » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:53 pm

It’s barely been a few hours since the start of the event and my entire faction has been erased off the face of the pitiful planet by a single guy and his 20 fresh alternate accounts. To be frank, I think this borders on abuse of the multiple nation ownership system, although I’m not sure what anyone can do about it. It's come to the point of absurdity, the sheer number of alternate accounts by a single guy.

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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:25 pm

Players are allowed unlimited alts, some people have over 130 alts *cough* Lord Dominator *cough*
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Drongonia
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:54 pm

The accounts aren't flooding the forums or anything like that, so it's not breaking the rules or anything.

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Inkopolitia
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Postby Inkopolitia » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:57 pm

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The Biggles Syndicate
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:59 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:Players are allowed unlimited alts, some people have over 130 alts *cough* Lord Dominator *cough*

>130?!

That's nuts.

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Woryand
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Postby Woryand » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:Players are allowed unlimited alts, some people have over 130 alts *cough* Lord Dominator *cough*


For tag raiding, 130 isn't a lot. I have 160 (well, have created 160; most are cte'd) in switchers alone, and probably closer to 200 when counting all nations.

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:02 pm

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Players are allowed unlimited alts, some people have over 130 alts *cough* Lord Dominator *cough*

>130?!

That's nuts.

There's people with many more accounts.
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Postby Scorpio Spikal » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:03 pm

is no one going to talk about the fact the one I want to nuke is in that faction?

Check "Who do you want to nuke" for more info

I might make a "neutral" faction. Idk.
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Side 3
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Postby Side 3 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:08 pm

Well, if you want to get him back it works both ways. It's pretty stupid though, because you basically can't "lose". One of your nations dies? Just make a new one. That one dies? Another one. Hopefully they change it next year.
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The Biggles Syndicate
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:10 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The Biggles Syndicate wrote:>130?!

That's nuts.

There's people with many more accounts.

Really? Huh.

What's the most you've ever seen?

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Woryand
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Postby Woryand » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:10 pm

Side 3 wrote:Well, if you want to get him back it works both ways. It's pretty stupid though, because you basically can't "lose". One of your nations dies? Just make a new one. That one dies? Another one. Hopefully they change it next year.


I believe that there is a minimum of 12 million population required to participate in n-day, though.

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:There's people with many more accounts.

Really? Huh.

What's the most you've ever seen?


Parhe has ~3 thousand, iirc.
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Presbyterians
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Postby Presbyterians » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:15 pm

What if they had it so only WA nations could participate in N-Day?
Just a suggestion.

Edit: Yes I know this nation would be excluded but it's not even my main
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Catsfern
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Postby Catsfern » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:20 pm

alright, so the same thing that I did to them pretty much happened to me, guess thats karma. oh well at least I had some fun making some people very not happy for a good 8 hours. but hey I fully survived the attack then just left my faction so, CATSFERN REMAINS UNSAVED BY NUCLEAR WAR AFTER DEFEATING SEVERAL NATIONS!

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The Sherpa Empire
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:26 pm

If someone is willing to invest the time to switch between all those different puppets, why shouldn't they?

If they were doing it with a script I could see the case for abuse, but anyone can manually jump around puppets if they give enough of a crap.
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Postby Catsfern » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:28 pm

The Sherpa Empire wrote:If someone is willing to invest the time to switch between all those different puppets, why shouldn't they?

If they were doing it with a script I could see the case for abuse, but anyone can manually jump around puppets if they give enough of a crap.


thats what I was doing the hole time

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Postby Harmonic Empire » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:53 am

Calant wrote:It’s barely been a few hours since the start of the event and my entire faction has been erased off the face of the pitiful planet by a single guy and his 20 fresh alternate accounts. To be frank, I think this borders on abuse of the multiple nation ownership system, although I’m not sure what anyone can do about it. It's come to the point of absurdity, the sheer number of alternate accounts by a single guy.

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Castelia
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Castelia » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:43 am

You gotta admire the determination of these guys, though. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I'm actually amazed that people took time to make and control so many puppets.

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Xentherida
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Postby Xentherida » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:12 am

A big issue I've spotted? It was said that puppetswitching was made more tedious. It's not been. Despite many factions having many, many unique players, they are simply overwhelmed by the ~20 people with about 200 puppets apiece, who are far, far more organised since it's less "people", but much stronger because it's more nations.

In future? I hope it becomes much more tedious to switch between puppets and slowdown, because it basically turns into a game dominated by raiders and defenders, because they have so many puppets in the first place. If N-Day related puppet switching spam (i.e. targeting and shielding) takes even a few extra seconds longer, then it could do so many wonders in reducing the puppet spam

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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:00 am

My 130 nations was fairly paltry - I understand the largest single was Sakana over in Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

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Greater vakolicci haven
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Ex-Nation

Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:07 am

So, you could say I both benefitted and suffered from this.
Last n-day, I brought in 37 puppets; this time I upped it to 51 and was also far more organised. At one point, 9 out of the 10 largest stockpiles of shields in Uppercuts were me.

Obviously, I also got wiped out by horsemen using mostly puppets like the rest of uppercuts did, however I feel that managing a large amount of puppets is a major part of the event for many people including me and I wouldn't want to alter it. I do think, however, that it might be adviseable to find a non-kaptcha way of making it a little more difficult to just switch between them using keybinds.
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Bolysus
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Postby Bolysus » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:10 am

We could resolve this by tying production to population and thus nation age.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:12 am

Bolysus wrote:We could resolve this by tying production to population and thus nation age.

Oh, please, most of my puppets are huge.
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The Biggles Syndicate
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:45 am

Woryand wrote:
Side 3 wrote:Well, if you want to get him back it works both ways. It's pretty stupid though, because you basically can't "lose". One of your nations dies? Just make a new one. That one dies? Another one. Hopefully they change it next year.


I believe that there is a minimum of 12 million population required to participate in n-day, though.

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Really? Huh.

What's the most you've ever seen?


Parhe has ~3 thousand, iirc.

How do they remember all of those passwords?!

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Postby Window Land » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 am

The Biggles Syndicate wrote:
Woryand wrote:
I believe that there is a minimum of 12 million population required to participate in n-day, though.



Parhe has ~3 thousand, iirc.

How do they remember all of those passwords?!

I would guess you would use the same or similar password for them all or use a password manager of some kind.
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Postby Bolysus » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:59 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Bolysus wrote:We could resolve this by tying production to population and thus nation age.

Oh, please, most of my puppets are huge.


But at least then you can't create twenty new puppets on the day of just for N-Day.

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