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Gandoor
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:52 am

Godular wrote:
Gandoor wrote:I obsessively check moderation cuz I like seeing idiots get the smackdown but that's just nonsense.


Why is it nonsense? Is 'ultra-annoying idiot' too 'tame'? It was an attack on the poster on a personal level, and so it broke the rules. If a poster cannot stop themselves from calling somebody names on this site, they should learn to step away from the computer.

Nobody gets offended if they get called an idiot.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:53 am

Gandoor wrote:
Godular wrote:
That's their objective. Get people to flip out at them so they can report it. Such posters don't tend to last long, though.

What's funnier is when somebody very obviously broke the rules, gets acted upon by moderation, and subsequently initiates a campaign against moderators infringing upon their right to free speech.

(and further subsequently learning how hard such attempts get shut down by other posters saying 'this is a private site, if you don't like it, don't come here')

Or don't forget the utterly stupid ideas like: 'Moderators should be elected' or 'All moderation decisions should be made by a vote'.


Oh yes. That has also been a frequent occurrence.

Another frequent occurrence are people 'offering their services' as mods. There is a specific post in the moderator forum that essentially says 'don't even try'.
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Postby Meadowfields » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:54 am

Gandoor wrote:
Godular wrote:
That's their objective. Get people to flip out at them so they can report it. Such posters don't tend to last long, though.

What's funnier is when somebody very obviously broke the rules, gets acted upon by moderation, and subsequently initiates a campaign against moderators infringing upon their right to free speech.

(and further subsequently learning how hard such attempts get shut down by other posters saying 'this is a private site, if you don't like it, don't come here')

Or don't forget the utterly stupid ideas like: 'Moderators should be elected' or 'All moderation decisions should be made by a vote'.

I mean, I do think the moderators discuss their decisions privately.
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:57 am

Godular wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Or don't forget the utterly stupid ideas like: 'Moderators should be elected' or 'All moderation decisions should be made by a vote'.


Oh yes. That has also been a frequent occurrence.

Another frequent occurrence are people 'offering their services' as mods. There is a specific post in the moderator forum that essentially says 'don't even try'.

That just made me remember a post from a few years back of someone who wanted to know if it was OK to save adspam posts in the Wayback Machine and have a dispatch that linked to all these archived posts to somehow help the mods catch adspammers faster???
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Postby Godular » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:00 am

Gandoor wrote:
Godular wrote:
Why is it nonsense? Is 'ultra-annoying idiot' too 'tame'? It was an attack on the poster on a personal level, and so it broke the rules. If a poster cannot stop themselves from calling somebody names on this site, they should learn to step away from the computer.

Nobody gets offended if they get called an idiot.


Arpasia got pretty offended.

Whether anyone gets 'offended' by the issue is irrelevant. Name-calling is one of the most obvious examples of flaming, as it attacks the poster instead of the content of their post. Keep in mind, you can refer to what they've POSTED as idiotic short-sighted drivel and you're perfectly fine!

But better yet: foe them.

Thus we reach another cliche: people who let a feud escalate, rather than simply foe'ing the opposing party and making any confrontation moot. Such things only lead to both sides getting concussed by Reppy's banhammer.
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:16 am

People who think that the WA is more powerful than it actually is.

Like unless you're actually posting in the WA subforum, the only thing the WA can actually do is slightly adjust your stats if you're in the WA when a resolution is passed or repealed.
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Postby Godular » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:00 am

Gandoor wrote:People who think that the WA is more powerful than it actually is.

Like unless you're actually posting in the WA subforum, the only thing the WA can actually do is slightly adjust your stats if you're in the WA when a resolution is passed or repealed.


If I recall correctly, WA resolutions have no effect on nation stats.
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Postby Meadowfields » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:30 am

Godular wrote:
Gandoor wrote:People who think that the WA is more powerful than it actually is.

Like unless you're actually posting in the WA subforum, the only thing the WA can actually do is slightly adjust your stats if you're in the WA when a resolution is passed or repealed.


If I recall correctly, WA resolutions have no effect on nation stats.

GA resolutions do, based on the category, but as far as I know SC resolutions don't.
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Postby Gandoor » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:32 am

Godular wrote:
Gandoor wrote:People who think that the WA is more powerful than it actually is.

Like unless you're actually posting in the WA subforum, the only thing the WA can actually do is slightly adjust your stats if you're in the WA when a resolution is passed or repealed.


If I recall correctly, WA resolutions have no effect on nation stats.

Nah, they do.

That's why you get the occasional threads in technical of someone asking 'why did their stats change' because a GA resolution was passed.
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Postby Karazicu » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:04 pm

cliche: nsg bad

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Postby Drongonia » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:15 pm

Karazicu wrote:cliche: nsg bad

-imgsnip-

I know it's a cliche to say NSG is bad but it is genuinely cancerous.

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Postby Untecna » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:18 pm

Cliche: Talking about Cliches while having Cliches
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:22 pm

Untecna wrote:Cliche: Talking about Cliches while having Cliches

Death, taxes, and cliches

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Karazicu
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Postby Karazicu » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:42 pm

Untecna wrote:Cliche: Talking about Cliches while having Cliches

I mean... basically every nation here most likely has at least one cliche in their lore and whatnot, it's probably not possible to have a nation without a cliche in them, or at the very least having a nation with no cliches in them at all is just easier said than done.
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Postby Comfed » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:44 pm

Karazicu wrote:cliche: nsg bad

Cliches can be true.

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Postby Gandoor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:29 pm

Cliché F7 users thinking that they're superior to NSG users

We're all fuckin losers posting on the dumb nation creation game that the site owner thought would die after a few months, no one has the moral high ground here.
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Postby Orlesian States » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:33 pm

Gandoor wrote:Cliché F7 users thinking that they're superior to NSG users

We're all fuckin losers posting on the dumb nation creation game that the site owner thought would die after a few months, no one has the moral high ground here.


Do people really think that? I'm not asking in terms of doubt, it's just unsettling to hear, as nobody is really superior to anyone on here, we're all just fellow NationStates users, I wouldn't really say losers, though, that might be a bit harsh.
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Postby Sky Citadel » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:33 pm

I’ve seen NSG. We don’t have any high ground, they just jumped into a pit.
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Postby Karazicu » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:43 pm

Eh, I suppose NSG isn't necessarily too bad, just a few idiots here and there but... eh. Seems decent enough when there aren't a bunch of idiots spewing their bullshittery all over the place.
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Postby Gandoor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:44 pm

Honestly speaking, I think I've just grown tired of the way everyone online loves to constantly complain about stuff they dislike or hate instead of focusing on stuff they actually like and enjoy, you know?

I'd say maybe I'm an old enby now but I'm also only 26 years old. And I just turned 26 last Saturday too, so I haven't even been 26 for a week.
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Postby Gandoor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:45 pm

Karazicu wrote:Eh, I suppose NSG isn't necessarily too bad, just a few idiots here and there but... eh. Seems decent enough when there aren't a bunch of idiots spewing their bullshittery all over the place.

And, of course, NSG is the most active board here, so you're going to naturally have a higher ratio of idiots and/or annoying posters there.
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Postby Karazicu » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:45 pm

Yeah, I'm just here to chill and fuck around, really.
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"Με Εργατη, Αγροτη, και πρωτο τον Στρατιωτη."
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Summary: When anarchy struck a Mediterranean island, its military & police took over in a junta, making a new order to prevent it by any and all means.
My Name: funny serbian war criminal xdd
Flag: jc3 reference

new lore and it's just a bunch of blue flowers
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Dayganistan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:52 pm

NSG would be better if it wasn't just a political discussion containment board. I'm sure there's plenty of non-political things that NS members would still be interested in discussing. Because believe it or not despite posting on a political roleplay forum I actually hate politics.
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Postby Orlesian States » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:53 pm

Gandoor wrote:Honestly speaking, I think I've just grown tired of the way everyone online loves to constantly complain about stuff they dislike or hate instead of focusing on stuff they actually like and enjoy, you know?

I'd say maybe I'm an old enby now but I'm also only 26 years old. And I just turned 26 last Saturday too, so I haven't even been 26 for a week.


I'm not sure if I am bothering you with my constant input on what you're saying, but I completely agree, I really wish people would focus on things they like, and have good times with, rather than continue to be negative forever and ever.
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