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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 27, 2019 4:47 pm

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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Mon May 27, 2019 5:09 pm

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Shown here are two Foxhall Eights belonging to the Royal Family. The unique Limousine de Ville Royale would be the preferred state car for nearly 20 years, and is still in limited service with the Livery Fleet even today, while the wood-bodied shooting brake on the right is preserved in the Royal Automotive Museum at Middlegough.

1925 would be the last year for the classic Foxhall Eight. Concerned that the boxy body style and inline-eight engine were giving the company a reputation for stodginess, Foxhall would introduce the aerodynamic V12-powered Foxhall Twelve in 1926, and indeed would not produce an eight-cylinder automobile again for over 70 years.
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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Mon May 27, 2019 10:43 pm

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During the defense of Kensingpar in 1940, General Porter Caspard set up his headquarters in an abandoned rubber plantation. His troops soon discovered a rare bright yellow Foxhall Speedster parked in a barn, left behind during the evacuation of the island. As wartime regulations allowed him to requisition civilian transportation, General Caspard took custody of the vehicle, applied camouflage, and used it as his staff car for the rest of the war. Today it can be seen in the Royal War Museum.
Proverbs 23:9.

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New Visegrad
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Founded: May 30, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Visegrad » Tue May 28, 2019 10:57 am

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"Groombridge 34 is basically the new Wild West. If you haven't got a gun, you'd best be friends with those who have. The SDF's plan to solve this is to own more guns than anyone else."
-- Pelecki

As one of the closest star systems to Sol, Groombridge 34 was among the earliest to be colonised before the development of FTL travel.
Funded by the up-and-coming Eridani Systems, Inc., the Groombridge 34 System Defense Force was equipped with the best guns, armour, and ships available in an effort to prevent privateers and criminals from laying waste to the colony. This effort was ultimately successful, but there were a number of spectacular raids on various mining claims and haulage yards before the arrival of the FTL-capable UN Navy made in-system piracy unprofitable.

The HK G112A1 was one of the guns issued to SDF personnel. Its 5.56mm ammunition was capable of defeating most non-military armour, without posing too great a risk to spacecraft systems. The weapon was designed to allow adaptation to vacuum combat.
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Slavakino
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Postby Slavakino » Wed May 29, 2019 4:22 pm

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Military Titoist Republic of Slavakino
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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drongonia » Wed May 29, 2019 9:16 pm

So I was making some Electorate maps for my nation, and I couldn't resist making this version...

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Manokan Republic
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Founded: Dec 15, 2017
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Postby Manokan Republic » Wed May 29, 2019 9:46 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Manokan Republic wrote:The Spartans were great at what they did, but could have used bows and arrows and cavalry to make themselves more effective, and they just didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippeis#Sparta's_cavalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_a ... tic_period

It was pretty clear I was referring to the average Spartan, and not that they never used Cavalry or archers. xP

The mongols have sort of demonstrated that archers on horseback is the most efficient way to wage war, where as the Spartans largely focused on heavy infantry.

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Manokan Republic
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Founded: Dec 15, 2017
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Postby Manokan Republic » Wed May 29, 2019 9:56 pm

Austrasien wrote:
Manokan Republic wrote:The problem with these conversations is that it always devolves in to the more fundamental question of "why didn't they do X?".


It isn't complicated.

The head, neck, thorax and abdomen are the site of 90% of fatal wounds. The face and neck are generally left uncovered or only partially covered because closed helms and gorgets are both extremely unergonomic and reduce situational awareness. The head alone is the site of about 40% of fatal wounds - for soldiers in the first world war whose standard reaction to shellfire was to duck in a hole even the torso was usually protected by the earth so it is no wonder they usually discarded the cuirasses that occasionally ended up on the front.


The All or nothing approach is basically my argument for why they didn't go with armoring all their men. Full body armor would be difficult to make and expensive, so it made more sense when trying to mass produce as many infantry as you possibly could to issue cheap rifles and body armor, as opposed to making every one of them fully armored. When only the torso or head was covered, it left other parts of the body unprotected, and so partial body armor wasn't really all that effective. The way to fix this would be obviously, to armor the entire body, but that requires more money and resources, as well as a better design.

There are helmets that can be ergonomic and allow for situational awareness, even when covering the face. The closer armor is to the face, the smaller the slit for the eye can be to be able to see out of. Some helmets can be uncomfortable, while other are more comfortable. I've rarely had trouble breathing or seeing out of a motorcycle helmet for example, while paintball masks have been obnoxious. However, you see soldiers were Balacalvas all the time, and Balacalvas actually do inhibit breathing a lot. And yet, they still wear them. You see soldiers wearing gas masks, even though it inhibits breathing and is extremely unergonomic. You see all kinds of things that aren't ergonomic being worn in combat, even regularly in the modern day, and it doesn't prevent it's use. So the question is a matter of trade-off; if you are going to wear a gas mask anyways, it might as well be armored for example. You can design something that is more ergonomic and easy to adjust to, as in it isn't inherent, but even then this doesn't completely prohibit it's use. People are overestimating small issues and acting like it would be to defy gravity or something to wear something slightly uncomfortable. In general, it is not.

Fatal wounds are not the only problem, as injuries prevent soldiers from continuing to operate and tie up medical resources. Hence it's good to protect from even minor injuries. A good example is protection from punji spikes or barbwire, disease and so on and so forth. Shrapnel in this case was the primary cause of injury, and being protected from that, for the most part, would be pretty useful. As only about 3-4% of deaths were due to blast injuries, or injuries so close to the explosive that soldier's died from the shock wave itself, and roughly 75% were due to shrapnel, it's safe to assume most were far enough away from the blast to be protected even by relatively thin armor. Shrapnel is far less likely to penetrate armor at even moderately long ranges, as the shrapnel has lost a large amount of it's energy by then, generally not being very aerodynamic.
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Manokan Republic
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Founded: Dec 15, 2017
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Postby Manokan Republic » Wed May 29, 2019 9:57 pm

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Valloire
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Posts: 46
Founded: May 27, 2019
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valloire » Thu May 30, 2019 4:00 pm

Hey folks, I'm working on an old-school body-on-frame SUV that's been in production for too long (think Mercedes G-Wagon and Land Rover Defender).

The Valloire Motors Andes SUV started life as an evolution of a military recon truck, with engineering and styling done in the 1970s to create a civilian version. Various updates throughout the 1990s and 2000s moved the vehicle upmarket, into a luxury SUV more likely to be seen cruising boulevards than muddy trails. Until recently, engines were old, wheezing I-6s and V-8s with too little power. Modern amenities and drivetrains are available, but the drive and ride are still very truckish.

Dimensions:
Length: 178.7"
Height: 69.3"
Wheelbase: 103.9"

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This would be a base "Havana" model, with thick off-black plastic trim. The owner has opted for upgraded wheels.

A 4-door and convertible version are in the works. Eventually there'll be a GE&T storefront... but for now it's a WIP. Not too happy with the wheel wells/arches yet. Any constructive criticism is welcome!
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Rostavykhan
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Founded: Sep 30, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Thu May 30, 2019 4:11 pm

Slavakino wrote:(Image)
MK2 of my Spec Op sniper


> Bolt-action rifle with wire stock

I never knew I needed this.
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Triplebaconation
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Triplebaconation » Thu May 30, 2019 6:17 pm

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A 50s-era recruiting poster for the Civil Defense Service. As the public grew less sanguine about its chances in a nuclear war, the volunteer component of the CDS saw a lower and lower recruitment rate, falling to less than 20% of target levels in some areas. The CDS began to shift its public efforts towards disaster relief, but a small army of civil servants continued to quietly prepare for all-out nuclear attack. Most CDS plans for such an event remain classified but apparently involve quite drastic measures.
Proverbs 23:9.

Things are a bit larger than you appear to think, my friend.

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Corindia
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:31 pm

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Hey guys, so previously I haven't really done camo, but I got a wild hair and made a template for some. I've included some pretty basic implementations of it (no shading, marking, bare metal/glass, it's just so I could get a feel for how it would look). I was wondering if it looks realistic/normal for the 40s-70s time period.

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Triplebaconation
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:41 pm

Looks good!

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The Royal Foresters are the oldest uniformed police service in Lyneria. Its 11 members are responsible for patrolling and managing Mayden Weald, the last remaining royal forest.
Proverbs 23:9.

Things are a bit larger than you appear to think, my friend.

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Celritannia
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Founded: Nov 10, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Celritannia » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:39 pm

Evolution of Cel-Ball, with a possible new flag design at the bottom:

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Miklania
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Founded: Jun 06, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Miklania » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:14 pm

Manokan Republic wrote:
Austrasien wrote:
It isn't complicated.

The head, neck, thorax and abdomen are the site of 90% of fatal wounds. The face and neck are generally left uncovered or only partially covered because closed helms and gorgets are both extremely unergonomic and reduce situational awareness. The head alone is the site of about 40% of fatal wounds - for soldiers in the first world war whose standard reaction to shellfire was to duck in a hole even the torso was usually protected by the earth so it is no wonder they usually discarded the cuirasses that occasionally ended up on the front.


The All or nothing approach is basically my argument for why they didn't go with armoring all their men. Full body armor would be difficult to make and expensive, so it made more sense when trying to mass produce as many infantry as you possibly could to issue cheap rifles and body armor, as opposed to making every one of them fully armored. When only the torso or head was covered, it left other parts of the body unprotected, and so partial body armor wasn't really all that effective. The way to fix this would be obviously, to armor the entire body, but that requires more money and resources, as well as a better design.

There are helmets that can be ergonomic and allow for situational awareness, even when covering the face. The closer armor is to the face, the smaller the slit for the eye can be to be able to see out of. Some helmets can be uncomfortable, while other are more comfortable. I've rarely had trouble breathing or seeing out of a motorcycle helmet for example, while paintball masks have been obnoxious. However, you see soldiers were Balacalvas all the time, and Balacalvas actually do inhibit breathing a lot. And yet, they still wear them. You see soldiers wearing gas masks, even though it inhibits breathing and is extremely unergonomic. You see all kinds of things that aren't ergonomic being worn in combat, even regularly in the modern day, and it doesn't prevent it's use. So the question is a matter of trade-off; if you are going to wear a gas mask anyways, it might as well be armored for example. You can design something that is more ergonomic and easy to adjust to, as in it isn't inherent, but even then this doesn't completely prohibit it's use. People are overestimating small issues and acting like it would be to defy gravity or something to wear something slightly uncomfortable. In general, it is not.

Fatal wounds are not the only problem, as injuries prevent soldiers from continuing to operate and tie up medical resources. Hence it's good to protect from even minor injuries. A good example is protection from punji spikes or barbwire, disease and so on and so forth. Shrapnel in this case was the primary cause of injury, and being protected from that, for the most part, would be pretty useful. As only about 3-4% of deaths were due to blast injuries, or injuries so close to the explosive that soldier's died from the shock wave itself, and roughly 75% were due to shrapnel, it's safe to assume most were far enough away from the blast to be protected even by relatively thin armor. Shrapnel is far less likely to penetrate armor at even moderately long ranges, as the shrapnel has lost a large amount of it's energy by then, generally not being very aerodynamic.

If you want a flak vest make a flak vest. A solid steel cuirasse is not effective or ergonomic or economical. Even then, that's not a great idea for the First World War, as the majority of the time soldiers were protecting themselves with trenches and bunkers, which protect them head to toe against even heavy artillery, not just the torso against hand grenades and light mortars. Protecting the torso is in some respects better than nothing, but in the cold calculus of trench warfare, of very little consequence. Explosions against infantry in the open will tend to hit more than the torso. A leg wound can render you immobile, in no-mans-land a death sentence, only made worse by the weight of your armor. The sort of person that might be caught by artillery in the open behind the lines are mostly runners and the like. Ask someone who's job it is to run vital messages as quickly as possible between the front and command posts if strapping a dozen pounds of metal plates to his body is going to improve his job performance. In the attack, when they are out of the trenches, the threat is not artillery fragments so much as it is machine guns. As has been said before, there is no practical way to armor oneself against rifle caliber fire with the technology of the day. You are basically forced to conclude what all the people actually there, actually trying to come up with innovative solutions to their problems (contrary to popular belief the story of trench warfare in WW1 is one of constant innovation, technological and tactical): body armor is not useful. Helmets, yes. Body armor, no. The costs in treasure, and more significantly, in weight and mobility are not worth the marginal if any improvement to protection possible given the technology and tactical context of the day.

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Slavakino
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Postby Slavakino » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:02 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
Slavakino wrote:(Image)
MK2 of my Spec Op sniper


> Bolt-action rifle with wire stock

I never knew I needed this.

Everyone needs it
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Postby Slavakino » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:02 pm

Drongonia wrote:So I was making some Electorate maps for my nation, and I couldn't resist making this version...


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Military Titoist Republic of Slavakino
A great nation built on socialism, science & unity. Come visit us for a holiday
Australian-Serb attempting to finish in Chemical Engineering. Fanatic about weapons, science and history from 1720-2000.
Pro: Titosim, Firearms, WMD, Science, Industrialisation, Militarism, Nuclear, Federalism, Authoritarianism, Assad, Hololive Vtubers

Neutral: Unitary State, Religion, Conservativism, Abortion Laws, Renewable Energy, Democracy, Trump, Juche

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Triplebaconation
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:35 pm

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Three Lynerian soldiers in Battledress 21 general purpose (left), arid (center), and limited-issue urban (right) patterns.
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Proverbs 23:9.

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Sevvania
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Founded: Nov 12, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sevvania » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:59 pm

Triplebaconation wrote:(Image)

Three Lynerian soldiers in Battledress 21 general purpose (left), arid (center), and limited-issue urban (right) patterns.

I can't tell if these are 3D models
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Postby Triplebaconation » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:23 pm

Partially.

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The late-80s "WARRIOR 2000" concept. Advanced polymers gave WARRIOR 2000 full body protection against enemy fire and NBC attacks, while digital systems enhanced situational awareness. Armament was a dual 5/22mm caseless carbine/airburst launcher and two short-range smart missiles.
Proverbs 23:9.

Things are a bit larger than you appear to think, my friend.

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Triplebaconation
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Postby Triplebaconation » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:23 pm

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Left: A soldier of the 9th Infantry Regiment, Terran Federation Army. In 362 AG the 9th deployed to Ishtar after complaints of unrest amongst the native workers (right). When the unit arrived after 3 months in hyperspace, they found every human on the planet had been massacred. After the accompanying destroyer squadron dropped negamatter bombs on the main Ishtari settlements the 9th would spend a local year regaining control of the planet.
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Proverbs 23:9.

Things are a bit larger than you appear to think, my friend.

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Fordorsia
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Founded: Oct 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Fordorsia » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:42 pm

Goblin aliens cannot be trusted. Why were they not wiped out by the colonists.
Pro: Swords
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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

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