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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:17 pm

Petroli wrote:Alcohol is a staple of tradition and meals across the world, banning it would not only deal a blow to a major industry, but also cause alot of unrest and bootlegging, even with an advanced police force, the will of the people is stronger. Alcohol should remain legal, maybe up the drinking age minimums to stop young deaths, but from then on its your own damn fault if you die to alcohol


If we want to avoid young deaths, should we then also up the minimum age to join the military?

It's ridiculous that in the USA you can be sent of to fight for your country, but cannot order a damn beer.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:18 pm

The Empire Of The Sutherlands wrote:
Kubra wrote: While I don't know the mormon view of consuming miniscule (like, impossible to get drunk on) amounts of alcohol, you could outright buy a bottle of chambord, lightly boil the alcohol out, and you've got a very unique flavour infusion for a lot of things.


Definitely trying this out.
make sure you're not going for high heat, you're not trying to modify the flavours more than they ought to. You're going for a very gentle simmer over a reasonable period of time, just barely below boiling if you can manage it, stirring occasionally. You can boil it if that's easier, just a light one. Don't want the bottom of the pot to cook too much.
And then of course refridgerate, because although there's plenty of sugar in the stuff you're still short a preservative, which was the alcohol.
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Postby The Empire Of The Sutherlands » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:22 pm

Kubra wrote:
The Empire Of The Sutherlands wrote:
Definitely trying this out.
make sure you're not going for high heat, you're not trying to modify the flavours more than they ought to. You're going for a very gentle simmer over a reasonable period of time, just barely below boiling if you can manage it, stirring occasionally. You can boil it if that's easier, just a light one. Don't want the bottom of the pot to cook too much.
And then of course refridgerate, because although there's plenty of sugar in the stuff you're still short a preservative, which was the alcohol.


How long of a refrigeration?
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Postby Kubra » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:27 pm

The Empire Of The Sutherlands wrote:
Kubra wrote: make sure you're not going for high heat, you're not trying to modify the flavours more than they ought to. You're going for a very gentle simmer over a reasonable period of time, just barely below boiling if you can manage it, stirring occasionally. You can boil it if that's easier, just a light one. Don't want the bottom of the pot to cook too much.
And then of course refridgerate, because although there's plenty of sugar in the stuff you're still short a preservative, which was the alcohol.


How long of a refrigeration?
Oh, with the sugar in it you're not gonna have to worry about how long it'll last in the fridge. You'll finish it off before then. It's just if you leave it out you're gonna actually have to count out the months.
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Postby The Empire Of The Sutherlands » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:29 pm

Kubra wrote:
The Empire Of The Sutherlands wrote:
How long of a refrigeration?
Oh, with the sugar in it you're not gonna have to worry about how long it'll last in the fridge. You'll finish it off before then. It's just if you leave it out you're gonna actually have to count out the months.


Alright then flavors here I come, thanks for the advice.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:26 pm

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Dogmeat wrote:It's strange to see people speaking with confidence about things that they clearly don't know anything about.

Like when people who don't drink talk about how alcohol-free drinks "hit different." Or when they insist that a territory with hundreds of thousands of people living on it no longer exists.

It's not the alcohol free version. It's just hot chocolate. Who doesn't love hot chocolate?

You know that chocolate is definitely a greater-than-normal stimulus, right? It's basically a drug.
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Postby Royal Frankia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:30 pm

I quit drinking when I started hitting the gym fanatically. It's bad for long-term gains, for sure. Another reason is I want to live to at least 70, maybe more. I could kill a whole bottle of whiskey in about a week before I stop.

I don't get hangovers, ever, so there's no downside to drinking like it is the end of the world. IMO, it's a cheap way to off yourself, and I'm trying to make sure my liver is solid now that I'm 30. Here's to tomato juice and protein shakes.
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Postby Ancient Poland » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:32 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Floofybit wrote:It's not the alcohol free version. It's just hot chocolate. Who doesn't love hot chocolate?

You know that chocolate is definitely a greater-than-normal stimulus, right? It's basically a drug.


Which is why its effects are equivalent to the first rush of romantic love. They are both narcotics in terms of their impact on the biochemistry of the brain.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:58 pm

Kubra wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Without the shot, the hot cocoa and marshmallows sure hit different
While I don't know the mormon view of consuming miniscule (like, impossible to get drunk on) amounts of alcohol, you could outright buy a bottle of chambord, lightly boil the alcohol out, and you've got a very unique flavour infusion for a lot of things.

If it gets cooked out it's not as bad but I usually stray
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:59 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Petroli wrote:Alcohol is a staple of tradition and meals across the world, banning it would not only deal a blow to a major industry, but also cause alot of unrest and bootlegging, even with an advanced police force, the will of the people is stronger. Alcohol should remain legal, maybe up the drinking age minimums to stop young deaths, but from then on its your own damn fault if you die to alcohol


If we want to avoid young deaths, should we then also up the minimum age to join the military?

It's ridiculous that in the USA you can be sent of to fight for your country, but cannot order a damn beer.

Yeah. Any draft is stupid, and 18 year olds shouldn't be out there.
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Postby Kronotide » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:04 pm

As someone who is a recovering alcoholic. I don't think banning is really the right solution here. I think more education on what alcohol does might help more. Ultimately, the US tried to ban it at one point and it still was a massive issue from what I understand.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:14 pm

Too many overdoses of alcohol makes a person nauseated incapable of driving and incoherent thought or decisions they don’t know they made.

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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:49 pm

Kronotide wrote:As someone who is a recovering alcoholic. I don't think banning is really the right solution here. I think more education on what alcohol does might help more. Ultimately, the US tried to ban it at one point and it still was a massive issue from what I understand.

A free society runs on a few key cheap and plentiful ingredients.
Gasoline, electricity, and alcohol.
Wiser authoritarians leave the last one alone while trying to outmaneuver the scarcity produced by their five year closed loop state market plans.

The death cultist's take it all.

ImperialRussia wrote:Too many overdoses of alcohol makes a person nauseated incapable of driving and incoherent thought or decisions they don’t know they made.

Reminds me of pregnancy, but death cultists have an answer for that as well.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:28 pm

Corporate Collective Salvation wrote:
Kronotide wrote:As someone who is a recovering alcoholic. I don't think banning is really the right solution here. I think more education on what alcohol does might help more. Ultimately, the US tried to ban it at one point and it still was a massive issue from what I understand.

A free society runs on a few key cheap and plentiful ingredients.
Gasoline, electricity, and alcohol.
Wiser authoritarians leave the last one alone while trying to outmaneuver the scarcity produced by their five year closed loop state market plans.

The death cultist's take it all.

ImperialRussia wrote:Too many overdoses of alcohol makes a person nauseated incapable of driving and incoherent thought or decisions they don’t know they made.

Reminds me of pregnancy, but death cultists have an answer for that as well.

Death cultists XD
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:27 pm

Kronotide wrote:As someone who is a recovering alcoholic. I don't think banning is really the right solution here. I think more education on what alcohol does might help more. Ultimately, the US tried to ban it at one point and it still was a massive issue from what I understand.


Indeed. Prohibition was an absolute failure.
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Postby Saiwana » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:29 pm

Has anyone else here seen the recently released pilot for Lackadaisy on YouTube? It looks like it will more or less be Prohibition era for furries. It had plenty of alcohol in it. Not bad so far as production value goes.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:46 am

ImperialRussia wrote:Too many overdoses of alcohol makes a person nauseated incapable of driving and incoherent thought or decisions they don’t know they made.

many a time me and my buddies got puke drunk at bars never got a dui cause were not jack asses . Hell i drank 2 liters of li iced tea 14 percent alc by volume in 3 hours puked outside decided to leave my car walk 3 miles home and puke a bit more before passing out.
rules of alc by thumb.
1. no matter how good you feel you always are too impared to drive.
2. If people are getting mad and acting unreasonable it likely is not them but you minimize and remove yourself.
3.Drunk strength is a thing but it does not make you a better fighter avoid all fights
4. recovery position lay on your side cross your legs fold arms under head angling head down lay on side.
5. if your gonna pass out but feel the need to puke puke first.
6. When your really drunk and your brain says you can handle another you can’t

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:53 am

Techocracy101010 wrote:
ImperialRussia wrote:Too many overdoses of alcohol makes a person nauseated incapable of driving and incoherent thought or decisions they don’t know they made.

many a time me and my buddies got puke drunk at bars never got a dui cause were not jack asses . Hell i drank 2 liters of li iced tea 14 percent alc by volume in 3 hours puked outside decided to leave my car walk 3 miles home and puke a bit more before passing out.
rules of alc by thumb.
1. no matter how good you feel you always are too impared to drive.
2. If people are getting mad and acting unreasonable it likely is not them but you minimize and remove yourself.
3.Drunk strength is a thing but it does not make you a better fighter avoid all fights
4. recovery position lay on your side cross your legs fold arms under head angling head down lay on side.
5. if your gonna pass out but feel the need to puke puke first.
6. When your really drunk and your brain says you can handle another you can’t

What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?
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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:02 pm

Floofybit wrote:What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?

Gives everyone else a reason to make fun of you.
Never mind all of the opportunity alcohol fueled sports generally provide.
Odd irony, that.
You are not considered a fool for over indulging in the first place, but are hung over in effigy for any public demonstration that you cannot handle doing something too much.
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Postby Sky Reavers » Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:14 pm

Floofybit wrote:What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?


Puking from too much booze is no fun. For it's a lesson about avoidance of excesses and keeping moderation. A lesson from one's own nature.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:14 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:many a time me and my buddies got puke drunk at bars never got a dui cause were not jack asses . Hell i drank 2 liters of li iced tea 14 percent alc by volume in 3 hours puked outside decided to leave my car walk 3 miles home and puke a bit more before passing out.
rules of alc by thumb.
1. no matter how good you feel you always are too impared to drive.
2. If people are getting mad and acting unreasonable it likely is not them but you minimize and remove yourself.
3.Drunk strength is a thing but it does not make you a better fighter avoid all fights
4. recovery position lay on your side cross your legs fold arms under head angling head down lay on side.
5. if your gonna pass out but feel the need to puke puke first.
6. When your really drunk and your brain says you can handle another you can’t

What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?

It's kinda funny when you're not the one throwing up.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:54 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:many a time me and my buddies got puke drunk at bars never got a dui cause were not jack asses . Hell i drank 2 liters of li iced tea 14 percent alc by volume in 3 hours puked outside decided to leave my car walk 3 miles home and puke a bit more before passing out.
rules of alc by thumb.
1. no matter how good you feel you always are too impared to drive.
2. If people are getting mad and acting unreasonable it likely is not them but you minimize and remove yourself.
3.Drunk strength is a thing but it does not make you a better fighter avoid all fights
4. recovery position lay on your side cross your legs fold arms under head angling head down lay on side.
5. if your gonna pass out but feel the need to puke puke first.
6. When your really drunk and your brain says you can handle another you can’t

What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?

You now know the limit of how much you can drink before you throw up

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Postby Techocracy101010 » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:48 pm

Corporate Collective Salvation wrote:
Floofybit wrote:What good comes out of puking from drinking. What fun is that?

Gives everyone else a reason to make fun of you.
Never mind all of the opportunity alcohol fueled sports generally provide.
Odd irony, that.
You are not considered a fool for over indulging in the first place, but are hung over in effigy for any public demonstration that you cannot handle doing something too much.


tbh nothing like a group puke fest

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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:35 am

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Corporate Collective Salvation wrote:tbh nothing like a group puke fest

Dunno.
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Postby Elwher » Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:41 am

Since whisky, vodka, and the like are spirits does that make those who indulge in them spiritual people? 8)
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