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Q1- How will the elections go | Q2- In your opinion. How will the War be in the future

Q1- It will be fair.
15
8%
Q1- It will be corrupt and unfair.
59
31%
Q1- There will be no elections. Its just an illusion
24
13%
Q2- The war will end in a matter of a few months. Its dying.
9
5%
Q2- The war will continue for many more years and many more will die.
29
15%
Q2- The war is already basically over. Assad won. Just admit it.
46
24%
Q2- I dont know.
5
3%
Q2- I dont even want to think about it.
5
3%
 
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:26 am

Dowaesk wrote:Why cant America put some of their money away from Israel and into some country like Syria in return for peace deals. It would make more sense than to keep funding Israel with nothing in return. Even if you dont get anything from aiding Syria, atleast you'll be saving lives. We cant see it, but out there, there will be a child grateful to have been able to satisfy their daily needs and not starve or freeze to death in winter. Humanity above profit.

Not everything can be solved with money. Syria especially because most likely the USA would only give Syria money if they are to have a democratic gov and open up to the free-market which is basically an instant no. If they want funds they can call up Russia for help anyways lol
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:58 am

I don't care if the election isn't fair.

Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:00 am

Austreylia wrote:I don't care if the election isn't fair.

Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.

Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:01 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution

Yes. A rebel government of Syria would almost certainly result in factional violence and a second civil war.
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Austreylia wrote:I don't care if the election isn't fair.

Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.

Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution
5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:28 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution
5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.
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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:32 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution
5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.
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Forming a new corrupt alliance will not help overpower another corrupt Alliance.
And I dont see how you are putting Political Islam into every single post. I see that you are a patriotic Secular Turk, but this kinda seems like overly dangerous nationalism.
And as for the underlined part. Justice in SYRIA cannot be achieved with Assad Its obvious. Assad is chasing his own political views and ignoring his very own people who are calling for help.
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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:34 am

Im thinking of making a new thread. Primarily focusing on Bashar Al-Assad and the regime.
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Postby Odreria » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:38 am

Faten Ali Nahar is the first woman to run for president of Syria, I hope she wins.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:44 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.
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Forming a new corrupt alliance will not help overpower another corrupt Alliance.
And I dont see how you are putting Political Islam into every single post. I see that you are a patriotic Secular Turk, but this kinda seems like overly dangerous nationalism.
And as for the underlined part. Justice in SYRIA cannot be achieved with Assad Its obvious. Assad is chasing his own political views and ignoring his very own people who are calling for help.


He's a pan-Turkic ultranationalist masquerading as a "international brotherhood" social democrat. He openly endorses Turkish imperialism and considers anyone whose ever looked at a Turkic country wrong an "enemy" of his. As long as Turks are doing the bloodletting, he's comfortable looking the other way.

Best not to take any of his claims regarding Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, or the U.S. seriously because he has nothing but Neo-Ottoman propaganda to spout whenever these "enemies" of the proud, noble, can-do-no-wrong Turks rear their ugly heads.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:49 am

Odreria wrote:Faten Ali Nahar is the first woman to run for president of Syria, I hope she wins.

Not gonna happen. 90% for Bashar Al-Assad, I can see it right now
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:50 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.

Good ol' oil republic
I think Assad will agree to a new Saadabad Pact instead of the oil alliance. However, neighboring countries need to start a real diplomacy initiative with Assad.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:5. Who stabbed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in the back ? Syria is an indivisible whole. The Kurdistan project is America's attempt to create a second Saudi Arabia. America may deceive Political Islamists, but Turkish Social Democrats are not deceived by this project. Assad and the Turks will come to an agreement when the war is over, and the damage done by political Islam will be solved by two neighboring states with justice.

Forming a new corrupt alliance will not help overpower another corrupt Alliance.
And I dont see how you are putting Political Islam into every single post. I see that you are a patriotic Secular Turk, but this kinda seems like overly dangerous nationalism.
And as for the underlined part. Justice in SYRIA cannot be achieved with Assad Its obvious. Assad is chasing his own political views and ignoring his very own people who are calling for help.
I think it is more appropriate for neighboring countries to engage in diplomacy with the legitimate Syrian government, which you call corrupt rather than agreeing with terrorism. Neither the Middle East nor Syria will be a country of Islamists.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:00 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Forming a new corrupt alliance will not help overpower another corrupt Alliance.
And I dont see how you are putting Political Islam into every single post. I see that you are a patriotic Secular Turk, but this kinda seems like overly dangerous nationalism.
And as for the underlined part. Justice in SYRIA cannot be achieved with Assad Its obvious. Assad is chasing his own political views and ignoring his very own people who are calling for help.


He's a pan-Turkic ultranationalist masquerading as a "international brotherhood" social democrat. He openly endorses Turkish imperialism and considers anyone whose ever looked at a Turkic country wrong an "enemy" of his. As long as Turks are doing the bloodletting, he's comfortable looking the other way.

Best not to take any of his claims regarding Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, or the U.S. seriously because he has nothing but Neo-Ottoman propaganda to spout whenever these "enemies" of the proud, noble, can-do-no-wrong Turks rear their ugly heads.
You are listening to the views of American nationalism. Think of the innocent Muslims killed by the United States during the invasion of Iraq, now I suggest you to question why American nationalism is slandering my views on Syrian policy. :roll:
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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:07 am

Odreria wrote:Faten Ali Nahar is the first woman to run for president of Syria, I hope she wins.

As much as I would love to see this. It is unlikely. The elections with be corrupt, might not actually even be there in the first place. The corrupt Dictatorship of Assad will continue. (My personal views. Might contradict with other views).
Although I believe, anything with a beginning will have an ending. Assad will fall someday. But that someday doesn't seem like anytime soon.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:14 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Odreria wrote:Faten Ali Nahar is the first woman to run for president of Syria, I hope she wins.

As much as I would love to see this. It is unlikely. The elections with be corrupt, might not actually even be there in the first place. The corrupt Dictatorship of Assad will continue. (My personal views. Might contradict with other views).
Although I believe, anything with a beginning will have an ending. Assad will fall someday. But that someday doesn't seem like anytime soon.
If Assad does not get support from people because of his behavior contrary to his conscience, of course he will not be able to stay in power. A thought that cannot embrace the public cannot survive. We need a leader who will unite Syria and embrace the people.
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Postby Vivolkha » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 am

There were elections back in 2014 when the security situation was much worse than what it is today. Elections are easy to organize when the results are not supposed to matter.

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Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ditto. Rebels aint good, I fear they might do some ethnic purges or plunge Syria into a 2nd Civil War like Libya. Kurds are firghting for thier autonomous region which is fine and the gov have struck a deal with them during the war. And obviously ISIS isn't a solution

Yes. A rebel government of Syria would almost certainly result in factional violence and a second civil war.

So what did the Assad regime result in again?
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:22 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:As much as I would love to see this. It is unlikely. The elections with be corrupt, might not actually even be there in the first place. The corrupt Dictatorship of Assad will continue. (My personal views. Might contradict with other views).
Although I believe, anything with a beginning will have an ending. Assad will fall someday. But that someday doesn't seem like anytime soon.
If Assad does not get support from people because of his behavior contrary to his conscience, of course he will not be able to stay in power. A thought that cannot embrace the public cannot survive. We need a leader who will unite Syria and embrace the people.

Basically Assad before the Arab Spring (US Sponsored coup against arab states)
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:28 am

Vivolkha wrote:So what did the Assad regime result in again?

Nothing. Civil war was a result of western nations intervening, and funnelling weapons/funds to terrorist groups.
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:29 am

Austreylia wrote:I don't care if the election isn't fair.
Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.

Basically this.

Allah Syria Bashar - quite frankly. Also, if the election was 100% open the winner would be astroturfed by the US-Israel establishment anyway.

Assad and Russia won the war and therefore he deserves the presidency.

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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:31 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:If Assad does not get support from people because of his behavior contrary to his conscience, of course he will not be able to stay in power. A thought that cannot embrace the public cannot survive. We need a leader who will unite Syria and embrace the people.

Basically Assad before the Arab Spring (US Sponsored coup against arab states)

Assad had tensions with it's Salafist citizens and often suppressed them and their right to express their veiws even if others disagreed. (I myself dont believe in the necessity of niqab, but thats no reason to ban it, especially in a country with a significant population that believed it was important). Although Assad called his Syria a secular nation. It obviously wasn't.
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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:34 am

Drongonia wrote:
Austreylia wrote:I don't care if the election isn't fair.
Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.

Basically this.

Allah Syria Bashar - quite frankly. Also, if the election was 100% open the winner would be astroturfed by the US-Israel establishment anyway.

Assad and Russia won the war and therefore he deserves the presidency.

I'm not clear with what you meant.
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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:35 am

Drongonia wrote:
Austreylia wrote:I don't care if the election isn't fair.
Assad has done the best for Syria and is a fine president.

Basically this.

Allah Syria Bashar - quite frankly. Also, if the election was 100% open the winner would be astroturfed by the US-Israel establishment anyway.

Assad and Russia won the war and therefore he deserves the presidency.

First War.
I don't think its over just yet.
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:40 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Basically this.

Allah Syria Bashar - quite frankly. Also, if the election was 100% open the winner would be astroturfed by the US-Israel establishment anyway.

Assad and Russia won the war and therefore he deserves the presidency.

I'm not clear with what you meant.

Oh, it's just a reference to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5ax8im3Ow

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Postby Dowaesk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:57 am

Drongonia wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:I'm not clear with what you meant.

Oh, it's just a reference to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5ax8im3Ow

Beautiful song. Just shows how peaceful and caring Bashar Al-Assad is. He never leaves no minority behind.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:33 am

What do you think about the Syrian Democratic People's Party ? If there was a party that defended the rights of Baathist social-liberal minorities and supported social democracy and perlementerism against the Assad administration, what would its counterpart in Syria be ?
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