Iran Says Israel Behind Explosion at Nuclear Site

[Drongonia]

If Iran is weak or doesn't have enough leverage, stronger countries are free to intervene against them in whatever form that may take.

So by that logic, China should be free to intervene against the United States' imperialist actions overseas, if they are unable to defend themselves?

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

I'll blame Israel for everything just because they exist

[Austreylia]

I'll blame Israel for everything just because they exist

Based

[Dowaesk]

I'll blame Israel for everything just because they exist

That happens quite often. Although I wouldn't say Iran is accusing Israel just because of this. I myself kinda feel like this might have been done by Israel too.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

If Iran is weak or doesn't have enough leverage, stronger countries are free to intervene against them in whatever form that may take.

So by that logic, China should be free to intervene against the United States' imperialist actions overseas, if they are unable to defend themselves?

By that logic, wouldn't Iran be allowed to continue their nuclear program if other countries can't do anything about it?

[Drongonia]

So by that logic, China should be free to intervene against the United States' imperialist actions overseas, if they are unable to defend themselves?

By that logic, wouldn't Iran be allowed to continue their nuclear program if other countries can't do anything about it?

Yes.

[Dowaesk]

If Israel did do this. Then they can't just walk away. Even if their big brother America comes to it's defense. Picking on Iran is not fair. UAE and Saudi Arabia in my opinion, are much worse. Yet they can't be messed with because they got their big brother, USA. Although Israel seems to be a personal favourite.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

By that logic, wouldn't Iran be allowed to continue their nuclear program if other countries can't do anything about it?

Yes.

Then why is Saiwania complaining about the Iran nuclear program?

[Drongonia]

Yes.

Then why is Saiwania complaining about the Iran nuclear program?

Because Saiwania has a massive boner for American imperialism, especially when it comes to Israel for some reason.

[Austreylia]

Because Saiwania has a massive boner for American imperialism, especially when it comes to Israel for some reason.

He's lost in the sauce of Neo-conservatism.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Then why is Saiwania complaining about the Iran nuclear program?

Because Saiwania has a massive boner for American imperialism, especially when it comes to Israel for some reason.

So, it comes down to: You aren't allowed to do it but we are because we're a superpower and you're not

[Dowaesk]

Because Saiwania has a massive boner for American imperialism, especially when it comes to Israel for some reason.

So, it comes down to: You aren't allowed to do it but we are because we're a superpower and you're not

Apparently so

[Drongonia]

So, it comes down to: You aren't allowed to do it but we are because we're a superpower and you're not

Yes, basically.

He's lost in the sauce of Neo-conservatism.

Found a photo of Saiwania, I hacked his webcam.

[SD_Film Artists]

Because it's ranked 7th worst country in the world by Reporters without Boarders and scored 17 out of 100 by Freedom House Index. Also it harasses global shipping and gets in a major tis if someone mistakingly mislables the Persian Gulf.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; if you were a car insurer who would you choose? The 45 yr old doctor who had a couple of crashes in his youth but has an otherwise clean record, or the 17 yr old boy racer pulling donuts in the local carpark? I'd choose Dr America over Gaz the 'NOS Legend' Iran.

Harasses global shipping: Never mind the US putting sanctions on anyone it doesn't like though.

One is within international law, the other isn't.

7th worst country: Did I say Iran was flawless?

That's a bit of an understatement for '7th worst country in the world for press freedom'.

17/100: And where is the FH based?

It's a US-based NGO. If it's a Washington propaganda mouthpiece then it's not doing a good job at it since the US is 61st on the list. Also I'd wonder if there's an NGO which does rate Iran hightly. BTW Press TV doesn't count.

Iran has basically said 'we banned nukes' and the US replies 'AHHHHH LOOK AT THEM THEY TRYING TO MAKE NUKES (don't mind ours though)'.

They've recently been further enriching uranium and made no secret about it.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

If Israel did do this. Then they can't just walk away. Even if their big brother America comes to it's defense. Picking on Iran is not fair. UAE and Saudi Arabia in my opinion, are much worse. Yet they can't be messed with because they got their big brother, USA. Although Israel seems to be a personal favourite.

Israel needs to be punished for all the crimes they've committed against people and other nations. The bastards did a nuclear weapons test and the fallout ended up poisoning Australian livestock

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Harasses global shipping: Never mind the US putting sanctions on anyone it doesn't like though.

One is within international law, the other isn't.

7th worst country: Did I say Iran was flawless?

That's a bit of an understatement for '7th worst country in the world for press freedom'.

17/100: And where is the FH based?

It's a US-based NGO. If it's a Washington propaganda mouthpiece it's not doing a good job at it since the US is 61st on the list. Also I'd wonder if there's another NGO which does rate Iran hightly. BTW Press TV doesn't count.

Iran has basically said 'we banned nukes' and the US replies 'AHHHHH LOOK AT THEM THEY TRYING TO MAKE NUKES (don't mind ours though)'.

They've recently been further enriching uranium and made no secret about it.

Tell me each and every shipment harassment please.

7th worst country for press freedom & freedom: The press freedom is bad, but people in Iran have a different view of 'freedom' than you do. It is not something measureable.

They've enriched uranium more: Not enough for weapons grade. Plus, they're not the ones leading nuclear races nor the ones nuked Japan.

[Dowaesk]

If Israel did do this. Then they can't just walk away. Even if their big brother America comes to it's defense. Picking on Iran is not fair. UAE and Saudi Arabia in my opinion, are much worse. Yet they can't be messed with because they got their big brother, USA. Although Israel seems to be a personal favourite.

Israel needs to be punished for all the crimes they've committed against people and other nations. The bastards did a nuclear weapons test and the fallout ended up poisoning Australian livestock

https://www.news.com.au/technology/inno ... 5514439e86
You mean this?
I actually just now found out about this. Thank you

[Drongonia]

That's a bit of an understatement for '7th worst country in the world for press freedom'.

The freedom to do/say does not equal the freedom to be, which is much more important. It's not a concept that most neoliberals/centrists/mainstream pundits seem to understand. The freedom to watch porn and eat cheeseburgers all day isn't actually all it's cracked up to be. Somewhere like Iran, if it had access to the same financial and technological resources as the West, would be a much more powerful nation because those who live there have the freedom to be themselves, practice their religions, and stay united within their own ethnic groups. Their country is the antithesis of the "freedom to do" concept, therefore it must be destroyed/bought into line, according to the West.

[Dowaesk]

So, it comes down to: You aren't allowed to do it but we are because we're a superpower and you're not

Yes, basically.

He's lost in the sauce of Neo-conservatism.

Found a photo of Saiwania, I hacked his webcam.

Saiwania isnt as pretty as I thought he'd be
Maybe put some lipstick

[Saiwania]

Found a photo of Saiwania, I hacked his webcam.

Very funny. Now, why is it that some people here are so keen on wanting a theocracy that sees it fit to hold embassies hostage to get nuclear weapons or the ability to maybe acquire it?

I believe that might makes right for most foreign policy problems. I'm willing to oppose rival superpowers just as much such as China, just that a regime like China is too powerful to genuinely want direct war with. The best that can be done is a proxy war.

The fact at the end of the day, is that not all countries are to be treated equally and that options are taken in accordance to what is practical or best in terms of outcomes. Some countries are effectively untouchable in terms of their ability to retaliate, whilst other countries are more vulnerable to other options that could be taken.

[Drongonia]

The fact at the end of the day, is that not all countries are to be treated equally and that options are taken in accordance to what is practical or best in terms of outcomes. Some countries are effectively untouchable in terms of their ability to retaliate, whilst other countries are more vulnerable to other options that could be taken.

Well that's the issue. This discussion culminates in, and will always end up culminating in the question of: Why does America get to decide who's right or wrong? Additionally, why does America get to decide who has nuclear resources and who doesn't?

Limitations apply of course, such as China, Russia and the UK - those nations being too powerful for the US to want to step on their toes, or in the case of the UK and other European nations, they're allies. But still.

[SD_Film Artists]

One is within international law, the other isn't.



That's a bit of an understatement for '7th worst country in the world for press freedom'.



It's a US-based NGO. If it's a Washington propaganda mouthpiece it's not doing a good job at it since the US is 61st on the list. Also I'd wonder if there's another NGO which does rate Iran hightly. BTW Press TV doesn't count.



They've recently been further enriching uranium and made no secret about it.

Tell me each and every shipment harassment please.

On the 10th July 2019 Iranian gun boats attempted to seize the oil tanker 'British Heritage' but were intercepted by the Royal Navy frigate 'Montrose'.

Also in July 2019 Iran seized an Anglo-Swedish oil tanker Stena Impero and a tanker from Liberia.

This is against the UNCLOS right of trade vessals to not be hindered or impeded.

Several trade vessals were destoryed during the Iran-Iraq war, commited by both sides.

7th worst country for press freedom & freedom: The press freedom is bad, but people in Iran have a different view of 'freedom' than you do. It is not something measureable.

Odd how things like human rights are now an imeasurable, etherial entity; very conventient for the IR that it can't be measured.

They've enriched uranium more: Not enough for weapons grade. Plus, they're not the ones leading nuclear races nor the ones nuked Japan.

Again, Dr and boy racer.

[Austreylia]

On the 10th July 2019 Iranian gun boats attempted to seize the oil tanker 'British Heritage' but were intercepted by the Royal Navy frigate 'Montrose'.

Also in July 2019 Iran seized an Anglo-Swedish oil tanker Stena Impero and a tanker from Liberia..

I'm pretty sure that the British seized an Iranian tanker beforehand.

[Drongonia]

On the 10th July 2019 Iranian gun boats attempted to seize the oil tanker 'British Heritage' but were intercepted by the Royal Navy frigate 'Montrose'.

Also in July 2019 Iran seized an Anglo-Swedish oil tanker Stena Impero and a tanker from Liberia.

This is against the UNCLOS right of trade vessals to not be hindered or impeded.

Good, I'm glad the UK was able to defend itself on this occasion. The Iranians shouldn't have attacked but does that mean it's okay to take down a massive part of their infrastructure?
(no)

[SD_Film Artists]

On the 10th July 2019 Iranian gun boats attempted to seize the oil tanker 'British Heritage' but were intercepted by the Royal Navy frigate 'Montrose'.

Also in July 2019 Iran seized an Anglo-Swedish oil tanker Stena Impero and a tanker from Liberia..

I'm pretty sure that the British seized an Iranian tanker beforehand.

Yes, the vessal was breaking international sanctions. IIRC the captain claimed that the British intelligence was incorrect and that they were enroute to Greece, yet when Britain freed the vessel (against the wishes of the US) she went stright to Syria anyway.