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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:36 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Picairn wrote:So? I support good policies and those who implement them, JFK and his New Frontier platform also has my support.

Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

Lel:
In the 1980s the Yugoslav economy entered a period of continuous crisis. Between 1979 and 1985 the Yugoslav dinar plunged from 15 to 1,370 to the U.S. dollar, half of the income from exports was used to service the debt, while real net personal income declined by 19.5%. Unemployment rose to 1.3 million job-seekers, and internal debt was estimated at $40 billion.

[...] In 1980 the unemployment rate was at 13.8%, not counting around 1 million workers employed abroad. Deteriorating living conditions during the 1980s caused the Yugoslavian unemployment rate to reach 17 percent, while another 20 percent were underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were under the age of 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_o ... av_economy
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:36 am

Picairn wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Dont live in Germany or China then

Germany doesn't have any of the above.

Are you serious? I'm talking about Nazi Germany
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Postby Austreylia » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:37 am

Picairn wrote:I hate to break it to you, but playing with murderous dictatorships is like playing Russian Roulette in reverse, with 5/6 chambers loaded with bullets. Even the benevolent ones suppressed protests and murdered political opponents.

In some places, it's necessary.
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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Dont live in Germany or China then

Germany isn't authoritarian now...

Hey, if it makes you feel better, right-wing nationalism is making a comeback!
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:37 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Picairn wrote:Germany doesn't have any of the above.

Are you serious? I'm talking about Nazi Germany

You do know it doesn't exist anymore... Right?
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Postby Picairn » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 am

Drongonia wrote:Literally the West rn

False equivalencies, the favorite of bad faith posters.

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Are you serious? I'm talking about Nazi Germany

Then why didn't you add the prefix "Nazi" in the first post? Edit: Also it no longer exists.
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

Lel:
In the 1980s the Yugoslav economy entered a period of continuous crisis. Between 1979 and 1985 the Yugoslav dinar plunged from 15 to 1,370 to the U.S. dollar, half of the income from exports was used to service the debt, while real net personal income declined by 19.5%. Unemployment rose to 1.3 million job-seekers, and internal debt was estimated at $40 billion.

[...] In 1980 the unemployment rate was at 13.8%, not counting around 1 million workers employed abroad. Deteriorating living conditions during the 1980s caused the Yugoslavian unemployment rate to reach 17 percent, while another 20 percent were underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were under the age of 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_o ... av_economy

1980s was a shit time for Yugo besides digitalisation that was quite rad. Earlier years was just fine
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Postby Esalia » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Picairn wrote:Germany doesn't have any of the above.

Are you serious? I'm talking about Nazi Germany


You mean that country that hasn't existed in about seven decades?

A non-existent country seems like an odd reason to advise someone to not live in an existent country.
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Postby Odreria » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Picairn wrote:So? I support good policies and those who implement them, JFK and his New Frontier platform also has my support.

Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

I love Tito as much as the next guy but you have to admit they had problems, ie the persistently high unemployment.
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 am

Untecna wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:Germany isn't authoritarian now...

Hey, if it makes you feel better, right-wing nationalism is making a comeback!

This nation doesn't represent my views thought
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 am

Picairn wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Are you serious? I'm talking about Nazi Germany

Then why didn't you add the prefix "Nazi" in the first post?

I'm lazy. Do you expect me to put the prefix of "Peoples Republic of" ?
In a democracy, I'm what you'd call a conservative socialist. In an ideal world, a Socialist/Gaddafist/Marxist-Leninist gov works out for me

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:1980s was a shit time for Yugo besides digitalisation that was quite rad. Earlier years was just fine

Yup, doesn't sound like the economy was "just fine."
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

Lel:
In the 1980s the Yugoslav economy entered a period of continuous crisis. Between 1979 and 1985 the Yugoslav dinar plunged from 15 to 1,370 to the U.S. dollar, half of the income from exports was used to service the debt, while real net personal income declined by 19.5%. Unemployment rose to 1.3 million job-seekers, and internal debt was estimated at $40 billion.

[...] In 1980 the unemployment rate was at 13.8%, not counting around 1 million workers employed abroad. Deteriorating living conditions during the 1980s caused the Yugoslavian unemployment rate to reach 17 percent, while another 20 percent were underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were under the age of 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_o ... av_economy

But the important thing is that it was a very heterosexual nation.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:40 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:I'm lazy. Do you expect me to put the prefix of "Peoples Republic of" ?

Nazi Germany no longer exists.
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Postby Odreria » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:41 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

Lel:
In the 1980s the Yugoslav economy entered a period of continuous crisis. Between 1979 and 1985 the Yugoslav dinar plunged from 15 to 1,370 to the U.S. dollar, half of the income from exports was used to service the debt, while real net personal income declined by 19.5%. Unemployment rose to 1.3 million job-seekers, and internal debt was estimated at $40 billion.

[...] In 1980 the unemployment rate was at 13.8%, not counting around 1 million workers employed abroad. Deteriorating living conditions during the 1980s caused the Yugoslavian unemployment rate to reach 17 percent, while another 20 percent were underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were under the age of 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_o ... av_economy

And it's so much better nowadays! oh wait
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Postby Drongonia » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:41 am

Picairn wrote:False equivalencies, the favorite of bad faith posters.

Uh huh, well you can keep your eyes and ears covered as long as you like, and keep calling me a bad faith poster if you want. But the reality says otherwise.

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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:41 am

Odreria wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Then you'll support Titos Yugoslavia which was built on socialism and for all to be helped out. Hell homelessness was basically impossible and the economy was just fine

I love Tito as much as the next guy but you have to admit they had problems, ie the persistently high unemployment.

Yeah. Although during the 50s-70s it wasn't as much of a problem as when Tito had died.
The New California Republic wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:1980s was a shit time for Yugo besides digitalisation that was quite rad. Earlier years was just fine

Yup, doesn't sound like the economy was "just fine."

No shit. I just said the 80s was a dogshit time. 90s was even worse
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Postby Odreria » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lel:
In the 1980s the Yugoslav economy entered a period of continuous crisis. Between 1979 and 1985 the Yugoslav dinar plunged from 15 to 1,370 to the U.S. dollar, half of the income from exports was used to service the debt, while real net personal income declined by 19.5%. Unemployment rose to 1.3 million job-seekers, and internal debt was estimated at $40 billion.

[...] In 1980 the unemployment rate was at 13.8%, not counting around 1 million workers employed abroad. Deteriorating living conditions during the 1980s caused the Yugoslavian unemployment rate to reach 17 percent, while another 20 percent were underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were under the age of 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_o ... av_economy

But the important thing is that it was a very heterosexual nation.

Unironically yes
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am

Picairn wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:I'm lazy. Do you expect me to put the prefix of "Peoples Republic of" ?

Nazi Germany no longer exists.

Image
In a democracy, I'm what you'd call a conservative socialist. In an ideal world, a Socialist/Gaddafist/Marxist-Leninist gov works out for me

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Postby Picairn » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am

Drongonia wrote:Uh huh, well you can keep your eyes and ears covered as long as you like, and keep calling me a bad faith poster if you want. But the reality says otherwise.

I mean, you can continue trying to equate Western democracies with murderous dictatorships all you want, it is a futile effort nonetheless.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:43 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Picairn wrote:Nazi Germany no longer exists.

Image

Therefore your original point was wrong. The end.
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Postby Odreria » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 am

Picairn wrote:
Austreylia wrote:I hate to break it to you, but some countries fare better under authoritarian dictatorships.

I hate to break it to you, but playing with murderous dictatorships is like playing Russian Roulette in reverse, with 5/6 chambers loaded with bullets. Even the benevolent ones suppressed protests and murdered political opponents.

Lol. Look at how Britain crushed the miners, but yeah Tito was totally the bad guy for killing nationalists, stalinists and anti-communists (read: them as deserved it).
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Postby Drongonia » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 am

Picairn wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Uh huh, well you can keep your eyes and ears covered as long as you like, and keep calling me a bad faith poster if you want. But the reality says otherwise.

I mean, you can continue trying to equate Western democracies with murderous dictatorships all you want, it is a futile effort nonetheless.

I picked out "suppressing protests" which is true, and you're just dodging it and trying to re-widen the issue.

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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:46 am

Picairn wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:(Image)

Therefore your original point was wrong. The end.

Okay but who asked
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Postby Drongonia » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:46 am

Hate to break it to you wrote:Go easy man. Picairn just lost a pub fight with three Australians.
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