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Postby Odreria » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:39 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Genivaria wrote:For good reason, people have been protesting police brutality for awhile now.
That does not a warzone make.

Protesting doesn't involve billions in property damage and at least 20 deaths

It pretty clearly did actually.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:40 am

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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Dont break the law firstly, secondly obey what the officer has told you to do


Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Okay but don't resist

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:40 am

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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Dont break the law firstly, secondly obey what the officer has told you to do


Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:43 am

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Cultural Posadism wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland supports summary execution for minor offenses. Bold stance.

I think Great Pacific Switzerland and Greater Miami Shores have never said this.

Great Pacific Switzerland implied it.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:44 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

It's a widespread and persistent problem, made all the worse by the fact that neither police departments nor the courts nor local governments have done much to curb it.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:45 am

Drongonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Okay but don't resist

Or what?
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:45 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Dont break the law firstly, secondly obey what the officer has told you to do

Great Pacific Switzerland supports summary execution for minor offenses. Bold stance.

I dont but i'm just saying, dont break the law in the first place unless they are complete bullshit
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:45 am

Drongonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Okay but don't resist


What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:47 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

Nice loophole, but the incidents as they are taking place count, :) lol. There are good cops and bad cops it happens, I have a Cuban cop cousin I have posted about a few times, I love these good cops:

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:47 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

Nice loophole, but the incidents as they are taking place count, :) lol. There are good cops and bad cops it happens, I have a Cuban cop cousin I have posted about a few times, I love these good cops:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tj ... &FORM=VIRE
I once tried to K Me. Posted It and Reported. Locked by Mods. I am Autistic accounts for Repetitive Nature. I am Very Civil and Respectful to all on NS and off NS. My Opinions Are Not Bad Opinions No Ones Opinions Are Bad Opinons. We are on NS, to share, discuss, argue, disagree, on Trump, elections, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Libertarians and whatevers, with respect. This Respect Is Given It Is Not Earned, This Respect Is Called Freedom of Expression and Democracy. This Man Always Says What He Means, I Am The Real Thing. I Make Ted Cruz look like a Leftist. I have been on NS For over 10 Years with a Perfect Record of No Baiting, Trolling, Flaming, or Using Foul Language. I Am Very Proud of It and Wish To Keep My Record Clean. But I Am Not The Only One On NS. GMS. I'm Based.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:47 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Newsflash: the police aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.

Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

Nice loophole, but the incidents as they are taking place count, :) lol. There are good cops and bad cops it happens, I have a good Cuban cousin cop, I have posted about a few times, I love these good cops:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tj ... &FORM=VIRE
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:48 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland supports summary execution for minor offenses. Bold stance.

I dont but i'm just saying, dont break the law in the first place unless they are complete bullshit

You could have just said "I don't" and left things there. Now you look like you do in fact think killing people without trial is justified, but don't have the courage in your convictions to say it outright so you express them through implication.

"I don't support summary execution but don't get accused of breaking the law if you don't want it to happen to you" is a perversely cowardly way of justifying summary execution.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:49 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Guilty people aren't being executed by police, since the default is innocent until proven guilty, a persons guilt is determined in a court of law.
However as of late the default of shoot first ask questions later is a problem with some police officers.

It's a widespread and persistent problem, made all the worse by the fact that neither police departments nor the courts nor local governments have done much to curb it.

IMO, I wouldn't say it's widespread and persistent, I'd say it's in pockets. I do agree that the courts and local govts turn a blind eye when it does happen. I find it interesting that the public hears about a particular officer(s) with years worth of complaints and yet remains on the job. If it were any other sort of job those types of people would have been tossed to the curb, never understood why police officers get such the midas treatment.

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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:50 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:I dont but i'm just saying, dont break the law in the first place unless they are complete bullshit

You could have just said "I don't" and left things there. Now you look like you do in fact think killing people without trial is justified, but don't have the courage in your convictions to say it outright so you express them through implication.

"I don't support summary execution but don't get accused of breaking the law if you don't want it to happen to you" is a perversely cowardly way of justifying summary execution.

Nah. I dont, I'm just too lazy to argue lmao. Don't assume random shit mate
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:53 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:You could have just said "I don't" and left things there. Now you look like you do in fact think killing people without trial is justified, but don't have the courage in your convictions to say it outright so you express them through implication.

"I don't support summary execution but don't get accused of breaking the law if you don't want it to happen to you" is a perversely cowardly way of justifying summary execution.

Nah. I dont, I'm just too lazy to argue lmao. Don't assume random shit mate

I definitely believe you might be too lazy to argue, but you've nevertheless made your argument implicit: you seem to believe it's justifiable to be killed just for being accused of committing a crime, so long as the accuser is a cop.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:58 am

Vassenor wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Okay but don't resist


What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?

None, but best practice would suggest you shouldn't resist.

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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:00 am

Drongonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?

None, but best practice would suggest you shouldn't resist.

This is kinda like saying "don't live near a nuclear reactor with incompetent staff or you might get Chernobyl'ed". Which, while superficially reasonable, suspiciously fails to address the underlying problem.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:07 am

Drongonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?

None, but best practice would suggest you shouldn't resist.


So if no law makes it a capital crime to resist arrest then the police shouldn't be killing people for it.
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Postby Odreria » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Okay but don't resist


What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?

Presumably, dark skin.
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Postby Austreylia » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:10 am

Neu California wrote:So, yeah, these extrajudicial killings are technically unconstitutional if they were not threatening officers or the public with harm, lethal or otherwise.

I doubt that you care about the constitution when it comes to firearms.
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Neu California wrote:So, yeah, these extrajudicial killings are technically unconstitutional if they were not threatening officers or the public with harm, lethal or otherwise.

I doubt that you care about the constitution when it comes to firearms.

Non sequitur.
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:30 am

Odreria wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What law makes resisting arrest a capital crime?

Presumably, dark skin.

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Postby Drongonia » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:32 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Drongonia wrote:None, but best practice would suggest you shouldn't resist.

This is kinda like saying "don't live near a nuclear reactor with incompetent staff or you might get Chernobyl'ed". Which, while superficially reasonable, suspiciously fails to address the underlying problem.

Yeah you should move away from there or accept the risks. In a highly charged riot/protest environment, just don't go. Simple as.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:35 am

Drongonia wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:This is kinda like saying "don't live near a nuclear reactor with incompetent staff or you might get Chernobyl'ed". Which, while superficially reasonable, suspiciously fails to address the underlying problem.

Yeah you should move away from there or accept the risks. In a highly charged riot/protest environment, just don't go. Simple as.



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Postby Drongonia » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:36 am

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Drongonia wrote:Yeah you should move away from there or accept the risks. In a highly charged riot/protest environment, just don't go. Simple as.



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