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Postby Cetacea » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:31 am

Mirjt wrote:Ignoring religion and spirituality, there is no purpose to humanity, to life, or to any of us. We are a complex bio-chemical chain reaction which through a completely random set of circumstance developed sentience. We are gifted with the ability to experience and understand the world, lets enjoy it. The only goals of humanity are the ones we ourselves consider to be things we want to achieve, like the end of all suffering that we can eliminate, or the exploration of the world around us, or the creation of new experiences, and forms of pleasure, and ideas, and worlds. From my Progressive Christian viewpoint, I would also argue that God created us because they wanted to create us, their children, and our purpose or goal could be said to love and be loved by God and each other and develop a deep relationship with the all the rest of creation.


The mechanistic atomist view of the universe is proven to be wrong, Niels Bohr oberseved that subatomic particles are part of an indivisible system and David Bohm argued that the behavior of the parts was organized by the whole, the Universe is an organic whole, but as parts of the Whole ourselves we perceive only parts of the Wholeness. Nonetheless all things are aspect of a quantum whole and in seeking the Wholistic form derive intentionality - intentionality then becomes conciousness and vitality.

Our purpose then as concious, vital beings within the Universe is to complete creation, to achieve the Wholeness
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Postby Lanoraie II » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:55 am

Well, that certainly depends on the individual, does it not? Ask our creators--if we have any, that is--what their goals/wishes for us are, then get back to me.

I guess on an absolute biological level, the goal is to reproduce and survive. Some fail at one or both.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:02 am

Cetacea wrote:Our purpose then as concious, vital beings within the Universe is to complete creation, to achieve the Wholeness
- or in the words of the sages to “become one with the Spirit of God”

And what does that specifically means? Get high from drugs?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:08 am

Cetacea wrote:
Mirjt wrote:Ignoring religion and spirituality, there is no purpose to humanity, to life, or to any of us. We are a complex bio-chemical chain reaction which through a completely random set of circumstance developed sentience. We are gifted with the ability to experience and understand the world, lets enjoy it. The only goals of humanity are the ones we ourselves consider to be things we want to achieve, like the end of all suffering that we can eliminate, or the exploration of the world around us, or the creation of new experiences, and forms of pleasure, and ideas, and worlds. From my Progressive Christian viewpoint, I would also argue that God created us because they wanted to create us, their children, and our purpose or goal could be said to love and be loved by God and each other and develop a deep relationship with the all the rest of creation.


The mechanistic atomist view of the universe is proven to be wrong, Niels Bohr oberseved that subatomic particles are part of an indivisible system and David Bohm argued that the behavior of the parts was organized by the whole, the Universe is an organic whole, but as parts of the Whole ourselves we perceive only parts of the Wholeness. Nonetheless all things are aspect of a quantum whole and in seeking the Wholistic form derive intentionality - intentionality then becomes conciousness and vitality.

Our purpose then as concious, vital beings within the Universe is to complete creation, to achieve the Wholeness
- or in the words of the sages to “become one with the Spirit of God”


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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:12 am

Lanoraie II wrote:Well, that certainly depends on the individual, does it not? Ask our creators--if we have any, that is--what their goals/wishes for us are, then get back to me.

I guess on an absolute biological level, the goal is to reproduce and survive. Some fail at one or both.


And exactly how many people have survived? It's an endless goal. And everyone up to the 19th century has failed.

People from 20th century and later are stubborn, but give it some time, they will fail at surviving too :)
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:01 am

Goal? There is no goal.
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Postby Lost Memories » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:07 am

If i was exclude religious views (as christian: the goal of humanity is communion with God), I would go with a naturalistic view instead.

Humans have the same goal as the other animals, that is survival.
The matter is more complex than from other animals, because humans don't act only on the basis of their instinct, but also on the basis of their culture. Or said differently, humans don't act only on body impulses, but also from what their minds can cook up.

So firstly, humans need to learn how to survive from dangers of the world.
And secondly, humans have to learn how to survive from the dangers of themselves.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 am

To follow God, improve the world, and to make the best food possible.

I think that's it.
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Postby Grimmsland » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:Goal? There is no goal.


An own goal.

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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 am

Lost Memories wrote:If i was exclude religious views (as christian: the goal of humanity is communion with God), I would go with a naturalistic view instead.

Humans have the same goal as the other animals, that is survival.
The matter is more complex than from other animals, because humans don't act only on the basis of their instinct, but also on the basis of their culture. Or said differently, humans don't act only on body impulses, but also from what their minds can cook up.

So firstly, humans need to learn how to survive from dangers of the world.
And secondly, humans have to learn how to survive from the dangers of themselves.


I personally think we should strive for an agrarian or green idyll until our end. Colonise the moons and planets of our solar system, terraform them and just live in peace with the ecosystems and the cosmos.
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Postby Lost Memories » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:02 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:So firstly, humans need to learn how to survive from dangers of the world.
And secondly, humans have to learn how to survive from the dangers of themselves.


I personally think we should strive for an agrarian or green idyll until our end. Colonise the moons and planets of our solar system, terraform them and just live in peace with the ecosystems and the cosmos.

Those are all possible ways to address the first of the two points i went by, i think. Surviving the dangers of the world, by being at peace with it.

But as much as a world can be manipulated to be convenient, or how much people could adapt to don't stress the world to avoid getting hit back from the rebound like idiots; if people are still full of vices they are going to cause each others (and themselves) lives to be miserable (people stealing, killing, being jealous, bullying, abandoning, betraying, being depressed, etc etc), regardless of the quality of the services.

That's what i think at least, the human mind is something terrifying and amazing (got to give God credit for gifting that to humans), gotta learn to use that thing properly, to see more of the amazing things out of it, and less of the terrifying ones.
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:32 am

The goals of humanity are as varied as the amount of individuals that make up this planet. Some want to advance their political goals and form what they think are better societies. Often these are contrarian with each other.

Others want to advance the human race, be it through technology and knowledge or society or art or something else. Others want to build something that they can be proud of and that will cement their name in the halls of history.

A small few want to make life worse for other people, sometimes a few select groups, other times for everyone.

Most people just want to be comfortable and content and not to hurt anyone..

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Postby Seven Seas » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:34 am

there is no goal, we just live and try to be happy. end of story.

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Slavakino wrote:Space imperial dictatorship
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Manifest Galaxy?
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:47 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Space imperial dictatorship
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Manifest Galaxy?

I mean we've been looking at the stars for millennia and haven't seen any xeno's yet, must mean they're not using the galaxy, hence it's free real-estate.

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West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Manifest Galaxy?

I mean we've been looking at the stars for millennia and haven't seen any xeno's yet, must mean they're not using the galaxy, hence it's free real-estate.

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Nuroblav wrote:B-b-but Nuroblav, what's even the point of this topic? Why are you here to bother us with completely meaningless questions that probably few of us were even thinking about at this current point in time?

Yes

So...Humanity. We do stuff, go places, take part in events and societies and all that. But what are working towards? Is there something that societies or just the world in general should strive to bring about? Is there even anything that we should aim for at all?

In my opinion, there isn't a set goal as such, but we should aim to look after our planet, while still maintaining a largely free society. To reduce suffering in the world while understanding that this may not be the aim others have.

But those are my thoughts. What about you, NSG?


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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:28 pm

Adamede wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Manifest Galaxy?

I mean we've been looking at the stars for millennia and haven't seen any xeno's yet, must mean they're not using the galaxy, hence it's free real-estate.

Because you're in Tara.Tara won't have an xeno's .Except for some green mushrooms and three handed guys.Maybe.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:45 pm

To love God.
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Postby US-SSR » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:06 pm

Option A: To observe. To think. And to communicate.

Option B: To eliminate desire.

Option A = Option B.
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To expand into the universe and further our contact with alien species.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:32 pm

Diego Maradona's goal against England was pretty good... I nominate that one.
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Nuroblav wrote:B-b-but Nuroblav, what's even the point of this topic? Why are you here to bother us with completely meaningless questions that probably few of us were even thinking about at this current point in time?

Yes

So...Humanity. We do stuff, go places, take part in events and societies and all that. But what are working towards? Is there something that societies or just the world in general should strive to bring about? Is there even anything that we should aim for at all?

In my opinion, there isn't a set goal as such, but we should aim to look after our planet, while still maintaining a largely free society. To reduce suffering in the world while understanding that this may not be the aim others have.

But those are my thoughts. What about you, NSG?


Pretty sure we humans use one of those nifty soccer goals, not one of the big H's found in men's football.

I don't know where they keep it, though I'm sure jackie chan is the goal keeper, so its probably at his place for now.
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Postby Aguaria Major » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:11 pm

From the evolutionary perspective, the purpose of life is to survive and reproduce as a species, i.e. to fuel the engine of evolution.

Humans, specifically, fit into the role of a cooperative pack species. The goal of said type of species is to cooperate for the good of the group in order to achieve the first point.

That being translated into modern layman's terms, the goal of humanity is to act for the common good in order to ultimately keep our species strong and prevent it from going extinct.
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To survive as long as we can without being destroyed by our own stupidity.
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