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Postby Italios » Sat May 30, 2020 4:31 pm

police infiltration is real, the autozone cop was confirmed by his ex-fiancee to be the perpetrator and in NYC plainclothes cops are coming out in white armbands so they can self-identify each other, and defend cops while blending in with protestors. i saw a vid of a cop wearing all black and an Antifa style bandana who was confronted by the guy filming the video and denying that he apparently got out of a cop car, but i don't remember what city this was in.
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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:32 pm

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Its a bit sus more and more white people are showing up as Antifa is supporting these protests and sending out their mob in Portland (bc where else).

But also the White Supremacist claim came from a discord post, and not to be racist but an overwhelming majority of the looters were African Americans.


at first, only in minneapolis it seems, and i'm inclined to give them a pass

but now, across the united states? yeah, i dunno anymore


Definetly some aggitators in there, groups trying to either go on a moral crusade or demonize the other. If the president doesnt react to these protests and only focuses on the actual issue of Chauvin, he could see a nice approval bump before election day. I know a lot of moderate centrists who are way upset with these protests

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Postby Novus America » Sat May 30, 2020 4:32 pm

Both ANTIFA and the white nats are dominated by accelerationists. Both have plenty who just want any excuse to smash things.
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Postby SangMar » Sat May 30, 2020 4:32 pm

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Totally. Bet that cuntander in chief gets re-elected though. Plus, I bet Chauvin gets a shit sentence. Fuck him and fuck bonespur bill.


I don’t know anymore. I’ll be perfectly honest. I’d like to think this country knows better and votes the fuckwad in chief out but who knows.


Yeah. No. America will re elect that fucking wankstain. I mean fuck, fucking Sanders is better than Biden - but the democrats are rolling with that train wreck. I hope they elect Biden though - even if he’s shit too.
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Postby Diahon » Sat May 30, 2020 4:33 pm

The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?


yes, that's been discussed

rightists want to take a crack ar it anyway, leftists are more "why would you kill your own people?"

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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:34 pm

Italios wrote:police infiltration is real, the autozone cop was confirmed by his ex-fiancee to be the perpetrator and in NYC plainclothes cops are coming out in white armbands so they can self-identify each other, and defend cops while blending in with protestors. i saw a vid of a cop wearing all black and an Antifa style bandana who was confronted by the guy filming the video and denying that he apparently got out of a cop car, but i don't remember what city this was in.


A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat May 30, 2020 4:34 pm

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Sure, but it’s not stopping Fox from reporting it.

Here’s the headline’s pic as it’s not letting me link directly for some reason: https://i.postimg.cc/4x9SbYjH/C8-BA3-B1 ... 3-D095.png


Yeah. Fuck Fox.


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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 30, 2020 4:34 pm

The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?

So you just let people loot another person's business. Who started those fires has committed the felony crime of arson.
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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:34 pm

Novus America wrote:Both ANTIFA and the white nats are dominated by accelerationists. Both have plenty who just want any excuse to smash things.


Well yeah this is the perfect opportunity for political gain through fear. Fear is a much better driver for these groups than hope and love

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Postby SangMar » Sat May 30, 2020 4:35 pm

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Yeah. Fuck Fox.


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Ohh arr
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Postby Italios » Sat May 30, 2020 4:36 pm

Minimark wrote:
Italios wrote:police infiltration is real, the autozone cop was confirmed by his ex-fiancee to be the perpetrator and in NYC plainclothes cops are coming out in white armbands so they can self-identify each other, and defend cops while blending in with protestors. i saw a vid of a cop wearing all black and an Antifa style bandana who was confronted by the guy filming the video and denying that he apparently got out of a cop car, but i don't remember what city this was in.


A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement

lmfao, im sorry but you're delusional if you think cops infiltrating protests doesn't happen. obviously people want to take actions against cops, it doesn't mean you defend yourself by dressing up like a protester and hijacking their movement, while refusing to take accountability for your actual group affiliation by not wearing your uniform.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 30, 2020 4:36 pm

Minimark wrote:
Italios wrote:police infiltration is real, the autozone cop was confirmed by his ex-fiancee to be the perpetrator and in NYC plainclothes cops are coming out in white armbands so they can self-identify each other, and defend cops while blending in with protestors. i saw a vid of a cop wearing all black and an Antifa style bandana who was confronted by the guy filming the video and denying that he apparently got out of a cop car, but i don't remember what city this was in.


A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement


Here’s the video: https://youtu.be/-evjkVfJ7HY
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat May 30, 2020 4:37 pm

Italios wrote:police infiltration is real, the autozone cop was confirmed by his ex-fiancee to be the perpetrator and in NYC plainclothes cops are coming out in white armbands so they can self-identify each other, and defend cops while blending in with protestors. i saw a vid of a cop wearing all black and an Antifa style bandana who was confronted by the guy filming the video and denying that he apparently got out of a cop car, but i don't remember what city this was in.


They're furious that the cops got there first.

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A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement


Very true.
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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:37 pm

The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?


Yeah but letting it loose shows compliance, especially if Walz and Ellison are planning not to arrest the three other cops. Showing compliance with the mobs demands will most likely level the entire city, and the extremist groups will probably still pour in their goons

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Postby SangMar » Sat May 30, 2020 4:38 pm

Italios wrote:
Minimark wrote:
A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement

lmfao, im sorry but you're delusional if you think cops infiltrating protests doesn't happen. obviously people want to take actions against cops, it doesn't mean you defend yourself by dressing up like a protester and hijacking their movement, while refusing to take accountability for your actual group affiliation by not wearing your uniform.


Don’t think he’s defending then like. He’s just saying not to trust eberythrihg you see.

But yeah - American cops need to chill the fuck - like, there’s 17,000 departments, I bet there’s some fucjing great ones. A lot seem bad though.
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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Minimark wrote:
A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement


Here’s the video: https://youtu.be/-evjkVfJ7HY


It could be a wide variety of people. I know that guy is the Autozone guy (its kinda funny to go on google maps street view and point out what doesnt exist anymore) and we cant be sure about anything. People are claiming its one guy because of the look of his eyes which makes no sense. Anyways, even if he broke the windows, Im sure neo nazis weren't robbing target, and the rioters also continued the damage and blew up the entire f*ckin building

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Postby Drongonia » Sat May 30, 2020 4:40 pm

The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?

It very well might, but what else is the government meant to do? Just let the rioters keep rioting until they've burned down every business, government building and police precinct in the country I guess?

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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:40 pm

Italios wrote:
Minimark wrote:
A. Don't trust someones ex-fiancee because they probably have beef with eachother
B. Armbands are used to signify cops so they don't start beating eachother up
C. Some of these rioters want to hurt cops, so its pretty much a fair want for the small minority to want to defend eachother in battle
D. I would need to see the video before making judgement

lmfao, im sorry but you're delusional if you think cops infiltrating protests doesn't happen. obviously people want to take actions against cops, it doesn't mean you defend yourself by dressing up like a protester and hijacking their movement, while refusing to take accountability for your actual group affiliation by not wearing your uniform.


It could be true. I jsut done believe the examples given provide clear enough evidence it is happening in these situations, and that all the protests are cop driven.

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Postby The South Falls » Sat May 30, 2020 4:42 pm

Minimark wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?


Yeah but letting it loose shows compliance, especially if Walz and Ellison are planning not to arrest the three other cops. Showing compliance with the mobs demands will most likely level the entire city, and the extremist groups will probably still pour in their goons

Cracking down will get the protestors fighting the police, which will only embolden the protestors. If another man dies, the riots will never end.
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Postby The Marlborough » Sat May 30, 2020 4:42 pm

Minimark wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Has anyone considered that cracking down might actually backfire and make the situation even worse?


Yeah but letting it loose shows compliance, especially if Walz and Ellison are planning not to arrest the three other cops. Showing compliance with the mobs demands will most likely level the entire city, and the extremist groups will probably still pour in their goons

A number of the demands are quite reasonable, such as the call for civilian review boards that actually have power. Enacting, not just promising but putting legislation on the board, as well as setting up widespread inquiries into police brutality, strategies so on so forth, would go a long way in changing things for the better and decreasing tensions. People are rightfully pissed off and you can't just accept them to continue to take it anymore.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 30, 2020 4:42 pm

I wonder if we're going to get a massive outbreak of COVID because of all these rioters and protesters not social distancing?

Or is that no longer a thing we care about?
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Postby SangMar » Sat May 30, 2020 4:44 pm

Minimark wrote:
Italios wrote:lmfao, im sorry but you're delusional if you think cops infiltrating protests doesn't happen. obviously people want to take actions against cops, it doesn't mean you defend yourself by dressing up like a protester and hijacking their movement, while refusing to take accountability for your actual group affiliation by not wearing your uniform.


It could be true. I jsut done believe the examples given provide clear enough evidence it is happening in these situations, and that all the protests are cop driven.


I wouldn’t say all are. Just the Maine one.

I mean like, someone said there was do a protest in Tokyo today over George Floyd(RIP) - tucking Tokyo? Like, why there - that cannot have been cop driven - even if japan’s legal system is authoritarian bullshit.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 30, 2020 4:44 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Here’s the video: https://youtu.be/-evjkVfJ7HY


It could be a wide variety of people. I know that guy is the Autozone guy (its kinda funny to go on google maps street view and point out what doesnt exist anymore) and we cant be sure about anything. People are claiming its one guy because of the look of his eyes which makes no sense. Anyways, even if he broke the windows, Im sure neo nazis weren't robbing target, and the rioters also continued the damage and blew up the entire f*ckin building


There’s a photo comparison between the masked guy and the St. Paul cop: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZJSZyxU8AIUGuE.jpg

There seem to be some physical similarities. Make of that what you will, but it’s really not that uncommon for cops to infiltrate protests either. Oftentimes by order of either their department or the local government. Happened in PR in 2019 during a peaceful protest. Cops infiltrated the protest by government order and started vandalizing buildings. This gave the police there a reason to use force against said protesters to break the manifestation.
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Postby Diahon » Sat May 30, 2020 4:46 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:I wonder if we're going to get a massive outbreak of COVID because of all these rioters and protesters not social distancing?

Or is that no longer a thing we care about?


people have put it in the backburner given what happened to mr floyd

i've seen someone call the protests overindulgent grievance rallies in light of this pandemic, but really, you expect people to just shrug at the horrible, sadistically prolonged way he died as if it's a fact of life?

no, not possible, that's just inhumane

the united states will see a surge, but truthfully, i for one can't condemn their choice
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Postby Minimark » Sat May 30, 2020 4:48 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Minimark wrote:
Yeah but letting it loose shows compliance, especially if Walz and Ellison are planning not to arrest the three other cops. Showing compliance with the mobs demands will most likely level the entire city, and the extremist groups will probably still pour in their goons

A number of the demands are quite reasonable, such as the call for civilian review boards that actually have power. Enacting, not just promising but putting legislation on the board, as well as setting up widespread inquiries into police brutality, strategies so on so forth, would go a long way in changing things for the better and decreasing tensions. People are rightfully pissed off and you can't just accept them to continue to take it anymore.


I believe reform is necessary. i just said that police letting things slide and not containing the protestors will make things better and make them happier. Having no restrictions will just make them destroy more things till their is nothing left to destroy. Some containment is needed.

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