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Where do you see yourself on the left-right spectrum?

Far-left
189
20%
Just left wing
126
13%
Centre-left
146
16%
Just centre
59
6%
Centre-right
110
12%
Just right wing
113
12%
Far right
79
8%
Other
89
10%
Hasselhoff-wing
23
2%
 
Total votes : 934

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Ansarre
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Founded: Jun 23, 2020
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Postby Ansarre » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:20 am

Slavakino wrote:>Monarchy
>Caste
>Slave Economy
>Sacrifice
>Infanticide

>Nazi
Are Americans always cooked when it comes to politics? None of these is close to nazism my friend

I'm not even American. Caste system is extremely compatible with Nazism and many Nazis today advocate for it based off of the work of Savitri Devi. Nazi Germany practiced slavery and infanticide too.
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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drongonia » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:03 am

Ansarre wrote:
Slavakino wrote:>Monarchy
>Caste
>Slave Economy
>Sacrifice
>Infanticide

>Nazi
Are Americans always cooked when it comes to politics? None of these is close to nazism my friend

I'm not even American. Caste system is extremely compatible with Nazism and many Nazis today advocate for it based off of the work of Savitri Devi. Nazi Germany practiced slavery and infanticide too.

I don't know a single National Socialist who advocates for a Caste system, slavery or infanticide. While it's true that fascism is centred around the "natural order" and the idea that naturally some people will be better suited to lead and others to follow, it's distinctly different from a caste system.
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Slavakino
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Founded: Sep 25, 2017
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Postby Slavakino » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:56 am

Ansarre wrote:
Slavakino wrote:>Monarchy
>Caste
>Slave Economy
>Sacrifice
>Infanticide

>Nazi
Are Americans always cooked when it comes to politics? None of these is close to nazism my friend

I'm not even American. Caste system is extremely compatible with Nazism and many Nazis today advocate for it based off of the work of Savitri Devi. Nazi Germany practiced slavery and infanticide too.

I suppose Caste in the way of who is a subhuman or who is an "ubermensch" but the rest is just a bunch of dogshit
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Ansarre
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Founded: Jun 23, 2020
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Postby Ansarre » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:40 am

Drongonia wrote:
Ansarre wrote:I'm not even American. Caste system is extremely compatible with Nazism and many Nazis today advocate for it based off of the work of Savitri Devi. Nazi Germany practiced slavery and infanticide too.

I don't know a single National Socialist who advocates for a Caste system, slavery or infanticide. While it's true that fascism is centred around the "natural order" and the idea that naturally some people will be better suited to lead and others to follow, it's distinctly different from a caste system.

Savitri Devi is probably one of the most significant contributors to National Socialism post-WW2 and her work is incredibly revered in modern day Neo-Nazi circles. See: The Lightning and the Sun
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Free Republic of Hong Kong
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Founded: Mar 26, 2020
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Postby Free Republic of Hong Kong » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:46 pm

An centre-left liberal that supports UBI and despise communism and nazism
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Vsan
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Posts: 4
Founded: Feb 04, 2018
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Postby Vsan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:08 pm

Staunch capitalist, nationalist, transhumanist, moderately socially liberal, believes in classical republics without universal franchise like the US and Britain used to be and the Roman Republic.

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Stylan
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Posts: 1475
Founded: Sep 01, 2019
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Stylan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:34 pm

Vsan wrote:Staunch capitalist, nationalist, transhumanist, moderately socially liberal, believes in classical republics without universal franchise like the US and Britain used to be and the Roman Republic.

yikes
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Stylan
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Founded: Sep 01, 2019
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Stylan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:35 pm

Drongonia wrote:
Ansarre wrote:I'm not even American. Caste system is extremely compatible with Nazism and many Nazis today advocate for it based off of the work of Savitri Devi. Nazi Germany practiced slavery and infanticide too.

I don't know a single National Socialist who advocates for a Caste system, slavery or infanticide. While it's true that fascism is centred around the "natural order" and the idea that naturally some people will be better suited to lead and others to follow, it's distinctly different from a caste system.

Yeah fascism doesn't want a caste system, it wants a very strong hierarchy.

However, people like Evola liked caste systems, but I dont' think he wanted to implement one.
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Mirjt
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Founded: Mar 23, 2020
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Postby Mirjt » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:16 pm

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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:35 pm

Vsan wrote:Staunch capitalist, nationalist, transhumanist, moderately socially liberal, believes in classical republics without universal franchise like the US and Britain used to be and the Roman Republic.

Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.
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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drongonia » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:39 pm

Kowani wrote:
Vsan wrote:Staunch capitalist, nationalist, transhumanist, moderately socially liberal, believes in classical republics without universal franchise like the US and Britain used to be and the Roman Republic.

Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.

I like that phrase

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Tsarus 2142
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Posts: 249
Founded: Apr 06, 2020
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Postby Tsarus 2142 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:41 pm

I am third position, better known as National Socialist.
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Vsan
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Posts: 4
Founded: Feb 04, 2018
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Postby Vsan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:48 pm

Kowani wrote:
Vsan wrote:Staunch capitalist, nationalist, transhumanist, moderately socially liberal, believes in classical republics without universal franchise like the US and Britain used to be and the Roman Republic.

Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.


Meaning you don't like it? So what?

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Cekoviu
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Founded: Oct 18, 2017
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:49 pm

Tsarus 2142 wrote:I am third position, better known as National Socialist.
Closet INGSOC

man, i can't believe the nazis are still trying to hide it and they haven't come up with anything less transparent than this
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Tsarus 2142
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Postby Tsarus 2142 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:09 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Tsarus 2142 wrote:I am third position, better known as National Socialist.
Closet INGSOC

man, i can't believe the nazis are still trying to hide it and they haven't come up with anything less transparent than this

Usually I just say third position. On here, it doesn't matter. Mask off! I'm natsoc.

Also, if someone says they're natsoc, it's unfair to immediately call them nazis. Natsoc is a fairly broad ideology, at its core being that the state taxes you to support your fellow countryman, as your fellow countryman supports you.
You can morph that into a variety of things.
That's why I just tell people I'm 3rd pos.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:14 pm

Tsarus 2142 wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:man, i can't believe the nazis are still trying to hide it and they haven't come up with anything less transparent than this

Usually I just say third position. On here, it doesn't matter. Mask off! I'm natsoc.

Also, if someone says they're natsoc, it's unfair to immediately call them nazis. Natsoc is a fairly broad ideology, at its core being that the state taxes you to support your fellow countryman, as your fellow countryman supports you.
You can morph that into a variety of things.
That's why I just tell people I'm 3rd pos.

:thinking:
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Tsarus 2142
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Postby Tsarus 2142 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:37 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Tsarus 2142 wrote:Usually I just say third position. On here, it doesn't matter. Mask off! I'm natsoc.

Also, if someone says they're natsoc, it's unfair to immediately call them nazis. Natsoc is a fairly broad ideology, at its core being that the state taxes you to support your fellow countryman, as your fellow countryman supports you.
You can morph that into a variety of things.
That's why I just tell people I'm 3rd pos.

:thinking:


Missed my point.
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Zedeshia
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Founded: Sep 25, 2019
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Postby Zedeshia » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:37 pm

Well, a lot of recent posts have been about right-wing ideologies, so how about we mix things up.

Though my NS nation does not really reflect this, I myself am a Syndicalist, and beyond certain issues mainly addressed by Revolutionary Syndicalism, I am a moderate socialist.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:41 pm

Tsarus 2142 wrote:


Missed my point.

did you have one? the only thing resembling a point here was "the thing for which nazi is an abbreviation is totally not nazism!"
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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Tsarus 2142 wrote:
Missed my point.

did you have one? the only thing resembling a point here was "the thing for which nazi is an abbreviation is totally not nazism!"

NatSocs need to own it. Cowering before people who are never going to support you is dumb.

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Tsarus 2142
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Postby Tsarus 2142 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Tsarus 2142 wrote:
Missed my point.

did you have one? the only thing resembling a point here was "the thing for which nazi is an abbreviation is totally not nazism!"


Missed point confirmed.
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:54 pm

Drongonia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.

I like that phrase

I have my moments.

Vsan wrote:
Kowani wrote:Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.


Meaning you don't like it? So what?

Things I don't like are based. Things I don't like are cringe.

Tsarus 2142 wrote:I am third position, better known as National Socialist.
Closet INGSOC

Translation: I don't understand 1984.
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Vsan
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Postby Vsan » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:47 pm

Vsan wrote:
Kowani wrote:Pizza cutter: All edge, but no point.


Meaning you don't like it? So what?

Things I don't like are based. Things I don't like are cringe.

"That's cringe" is not a valid criticism. You calling me a pizza cutter is just projection; there's no point to anything you've said. Also, "based" on what? Maybe you meant to write "baste," but that has to do with cooking.
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm

Vsan wrote:
Vsan wrote:
Meaning you don't like it? So what?

Things I don't like are based. Things I don't like are cringe.

"That's cringe" is not a valid criticism.

It’s not meant to be.

You calling me a pizza cutter is just projection; there's no point to anything you've said.


Ah, you don’t know what words mean.
Also, "based" on what? Maybe you meant to write "baste," but that has to do with cooking.

Internet slang.
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The Valley of the Shadow of Death
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Founded: Jul 25, 2020
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Postby The Valley of the Shadow of Death » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:42 pm

It's too complex for the traditional left-right spectrum. I'm authoritarian and believe in a mixed economy, with a lot of things from socialism. So basically it puts me in the center.

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