Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge

[Joohan]

The Months too.
July - Julius Caesar
August - Augustus Caesar

https://blog.britishmuseum.org/whats-in ... -the-year/

Mild tangent: but I'm continuously annoyed that September, October, November, and December aren't the 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Months, respectively.

Whoever is responsible for this should be stabbed.

I have fantastic news for you

[Washington Resistance Army]

>Studies History at University.
>Historically illiterate.

Lol. K.

Needs to study more apparently.


Wait for the moment americans and british people will realize word games don't translate well over other languages.
Wait for them to realize their cultural elements aren't universal. Wait for it...
Muh Easter. Muh Romans during Saturnalia did exchange gifts. Muh atheanians were democratic.

I mean, Christmas taking elements from various Roman holidays isn't exactly a fringe theory in historical circles. Both Saturnalia and Dies Natalis Solis Invicti fall right in that time frame and include elements that Christmas nowadays touts. The earliest Christian authors don't mention it as a festival and there's a fairly compelling case to be made that it was only introduced to try and win over converts.

[Suriyanakhon]

Yes, yoga as it pertains to it being a spiritual practice. Strictly speaking, as a spiritual practice.

You want to adopt the stretches and call whatever exercise you're doing yoga? Go ahead, that's fine. Be my guest.

So are you saying every other religion that isn't Catholic is demonic? Shintoism, Hinduism, Buddhism?

They've been saying it for about five hundred years now, why are you surprised?

[The New California Republic]

>Studies History at University.
>Historically illiterate.

Lol. K.

Needs to study more apparently.

Are you engaging in that same old condescension again? You know, that thing that people here have told you about repeatedly?

[Loeje]

Which game? Do you mean NationStates?

Aye I do.

Okay. In that case, no, I don't. I think it's actually a nice game. I haven't noticed anything demonic.

[Ethel mermania]

Question for you xtians.

Jesus's birth. Did God implant Jesus into Mary, or did God impregnate Mary? Is the biological being of Jesus, Jesus's DNS, half human or fully devine?

[Celritannia]

Is it this the actual stance by the Catholic church?

Yoga is considered a Hindu practice, not a demonic one. But the Church warns against it because some of the traditional tenets (chakras, energies, etc.) go against how the Church views the spirit. While there’s a lot of mixing of folk and Catholic religions which is accepted as a certain breed of Catholicism (especially in Central and South America, and among Native Americans/First Nations people), yoga is not considered compatible.

Sunny doe think it's demonic though.

[Celritannia]

So are you saying every other religion that isn't Catholic is demonic? Shintoism, Hinduism, Buddhism?

They've been saying it for about five hundred years now, why are you surprised?

You'd think nearly all of the followers of the Catholic Church would no longer see other cultures and religions as demonic, since we have advanced.

[Baldwin Park]

Aye I do.

Okay. In that case, no, I don't. I think it's actually a nice game. I haven't noticed anything demonic.

Well, go into the portal to multiverse or othrr rp areas.

I was going to play an RP but people put lucifer into it.

Ive seen nation names like Lilitu and it has the demon woman as its flag, other nations have full on satanic sigils. I've seen another named Khoronzon and another after Astarte. I'm concerned for thr younger players being influenced by it.

[Loeje]

Okay. In that case, no, I don't. I think it's actually a nice game. I haven't noticed anything demonic.

Well, go into the portal to multiverse or othrr rp areas.

I was going to play an RP but people put lucifer into it.

Ive seen nation names like Lilitu and it has the demon woman as its flag, other nations have full on satanic sigils. I've seen another named Khoronzon and another after Astarte. I'm concerned for thr younger players being influenced by it.

I wouldn't know about RP. But I personally haven't seen anything demonic here.

[Sundiata]

Potentially? Yes, but that doesn't make every part of another religious practice completely wrong.

That's not very tolerant of you.
Just because you think it is demonic does not mean it is.

My friend, I want to make one thing absolutely clear. Things are demonic, divinely disordered, because they go against the way of Christ. Not because I like or dislike them.

Christ is the logos, the word, the way. And at risk of sounding like a certain knuckles meme, I won't flippantly ask if you know it.

Why? Because your soul knows it, everyone's soul knows it.

[Lost Memories]

Needs to study more apparently.


Wait for the moment americans and british people will realize word games don't translate well over other languages.
Wait for them to realize their cultural elements aren't universal. Wait for it...
Muh Easter. Muh Romans during Saturnalia did exchange gifts. Muh atheanians were democratic.

I'm not the one denying Saturnalia was one reason why we celebrate Christmas.

You were the one to bring up Saturnalia and all the other party-set of "the evangelical protestant anti-catholic propaganda", about anything not written in the bible being of pagan origin.
Ironically, you are doing what you are criticizing Sundiata of doing. (which he isn't actually doing)

If you want to show off more of your protestant cultural heritage, that's on you.

The point started with you getting shocked at the usage of the word "demonic", which you have failed yet to define.
What do you understand "demonic" to mean? Is it just a bad bad word? Like poppy, and other bad words kids should not say? Is it nothing else for you?

What does "demonic" means? Since you got offended or wary of it, you should know. Do tell.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

That's not very tolerant of you.
Just because you think it is demonic does not mean it is.

My friend, I want to make one thing absolutely clear. Things are demonic, divinely disordered, because they go against the way of Christ. Not because I like or dislike them.

Christ is the logos, the word, the way. And at risk of sounding like a certain knuckles meme, I won't flippantly ask if you know it.

Why? Because your soul knows it, everyone's soul knows it.

Really? Cause my soul feels like it's all made up .

[The New California Republic]

Well, go into the portal to multiverse or othrr rp areas.

I was going to play an RP but people put lucifer into it.

Ive seen nation names like Lilitu and it has the demon woman as its flag, other nations have full on satanic sigils. I've seen another named Khoronzon and another after Astarte. I'm concerned for thr younger players being influenced by it.

Well since such references aren't banned on NS then if it really offends you that much then just don't get involved in those RPs.

[Celritannia]

That's not very tolerant of you.
Just because you think it is demonic does not mean it is.

My friend, I want to make one thing absolutely clear. Things are demonic, divinely disordered, because they go against the way of Christ. Not because I like or dislike them.

Christ is the logos, the word, the way. And at risk of sounding like a certain knuckles meme, I won't flippantly ask if you know it.

Why? Because your soul knows it, everyone's soul knows it.

You don't have to accept that you know? Who can formulate your own opinion.

I don't believe in the existence in any religion, nor do I think anything is demonic, because that would intolerant.

[Sundiata]

My friend, I want to make one thing absolutely clear. Things are demonic, divinely disordered, because they go against the way of Christ. Not because I like or dislike them.

Christ is the logos, the word, the way. And at risk of sounding like a certain knuckles meme, I won't flippantly ask if you know it.

Why? Because your soul knows it, everyone's soul knows it.

Really? Cause my soul feels like it's all made up .

Souls in their natural state know the way of Christ but they can and usually are, at one point or another, led astray by the Satan and the sins of the world.

[Baldwin Park]

Well, go into the portal to multiverse or othrr rp areas.

I was going to play an RP but people put lucifer into it.

Ive seen nation names like Lilitu and it has the demon woman as its flag, other nations have full on satanic sigils. I've seen another named Khoronzon and another after Astarte. I'm concerned for thr younger players being influenced by it.

Well since such references aren't banned on NS then if it really offends you that much then just don't get involved in those RPs.

I'm trying to share it with other Christians is all. Please don't attack me, I'm not taking anything away from you. I didn't say it offends me. I said I fear for thr younger peopke that are more susceptible to actual demonically influenced people. I didnt tske part in the RP. And The only thing I did was raise the issue amongst those who care. I don't expect you to care if you're not a Christian.

[Celritannia]

I'm not the one denying Saturnalia was one reason why we celebrate Christmas.

You were the one to bring up Saturnalia and all the other party-set of "the evangelical protestant anti-catholic propaganda", about anything not written in the bible being of pagan origin.
Ironically, you are doing what you are criticizing Sundiata of doing. (which he isn't actually doing)

If you want to show off more of your protestant cultural heritage, that's on you.

The point started with you getting shocked at the usage of the word "demonic", which you have failed yet to define.
What do you understand "demonic" to mean? Is it just a bad bad word? Like poppy, and other bad words kids should not say? Is it nothing else for you?

What does "demonic" means? Since you got offended or wary of it, you should know. Do tell.

Because I base things on actually history, not in the bible.
The bible has it's place, but it is not solely a historical text.

I mean, anything that is not in the bible it technically Pagan, due to what the term Pagan actually means.

I am not Protestant though. I'm an atheist.

Because there is no such thing as demonic powers.
But when one religion calls another religion demonic, that's when thing get stupid.

[New Visayan Islands]

They've been saying it for about five hundred years now, why are you surprised?

You'd think nearly all of the followers of the Catholic Church would no longer see other cultures and religions as demonic, since we have advanced.

coughcoughVatican IIcoughcough

But yes, Vatican II could be considered the Church adapting to a time where people have begun to properly see each other as people.

[Celritannia]

Really? Cause my soul feels like it's all made up .

Souls in their natural state know the way of Christ but they can and usually are, at one point or another, led astray by the Satan and the sins of the world.

Only if you believe in your religion.

[Lost Memories]

I don't believe in the existence in any religion, nor do I think anything is demonic, because that would intolerant.

Why would something being demonic, be intollerant, if it doesn't exist?
That doesn't make sense.


Do you believe in flying elephants? Is calling someone a "flying elephant", to be intollerant?

[Celritannia]

You'd think nearly all of the followers of the Catholic Church would no longer see other cultures and religions as demonic, since we have advanced.

coughcoughVatican IIcoughcough

But yes, Vatican II could be considered the Church adapting to a time where people have begun to properly see each other as people.

That's good at least.

[Celritannia]

I don't believe in the existence in any religion, nor do I think anything is demonic, because that would intolerant.

Why would something being demonic, be intollerant, if it doesn't exist?
That doesn't make sense.


Do you believe in flying elephants? Is calling someone a "flying elephant", to be intollerant?

Just because I don't believe in the existence of any deity, does not mean someone else is being intolerant by calling another religion or culture demonic.

[Sundiata]

coughcoughVatican IIcoughcough

But yes, Vatican II could be considered the Church adapting to a time where people have begun to properly see each other as people.

That's good at least.

Yes, Vatican II was absolutely a good thing.

[The New California Republic]

Well since such references aren't banned on NS then if it really offends you that much then just don't get involved in those RPs.

I'm trying to share it with other Christians is all. Please don't attack me, I'm not taking anything away from you.

It's not an attack, it's a suggestion not to get involved in the thing you find offensive.

[...] I fear for thr younger peopke that are more susceptible to actual demonically influenced people. I didnt tske part in the RP. And The only thing I did was raise the issue amongst those who care.

I'm not entirely sure if anyone here much cares about NS RP references to demons, as they are hopefully aware that it's just fantasy without any real effect or meaning.