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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:51 pm

Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:54 pm

Perruzio Veloce wrote:Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.

Yeah that totally won’t be exploited :roll:

Remember the whole “how many bubbles in a bar of soap” thing?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:54 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:Yeah I don't see the slightest bit of evidence to support the claim that old people are more susceptible to propaganda. If anything common sense would suggest that their experience would make them less susceptible to it.

You'd think that, but one of Fox News' largest demographics are old white people.


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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Perruzio Veloce wrote:Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.

That would be extremely arbitrary and contraversial to say the least. To be honest, I favour a system that would financially reward people for voting. This would provide more incentives for the young to vote and would end the disgraceful generational prejudice of politicians as a result.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:Why should people with no vested interest in the future of their country be allowed to vote?


Then don't let foreigners vote.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:56 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Perruzio Veloce wrote:Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.

Yeah that totally won’t be exploited :roll:

Remember the whole “how many bubbles in a bar of soap” thing?

Yea. Or they may place questions geared toward a richer audience for example, like a query about the standard length of a yacht.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:09 pm

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Costa Fierro wrote:Why should people with no vested interest in the future of their country be allowed to vote?


Then don't let foreigners vote.

Non-citizens can't vote, and I would think as a citizen you would have a vested interest in the future of your nation.
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Wouldn't you need voter ID to enforce this :^)
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:15 pm

Perruzio Veloce wrote:Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.

we tried that it didnt work out very well

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:16 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Wouldn't you need voter ID to enforce this :^)

It's why we need a national ID card. I say that because voter ID is hard to procure for people who don't drive and don't have a DMV near them.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:17 pm

Drongonia wrote:Stop, degenerate. Electoral rights are for all above 18. Imagine working and paying taxes into the system all your life, just to retire and be told you're not allowed to vote.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:18 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
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Because a "vested interest in the future of their country" is collecting pension payments.


What were they thinking when they earned that pension?


Probably trying to remember when they last went to the toilet, or what pedal makes the car go vroom.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:19 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
What were they thinking when they earned that pension?


Probably trying to remember when they last went to the toilet, or what pedal makes the car go vroom.

This is straight up sad.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:20 pm

Great Kysilia wrote:You know the elderly also have kids and grandkids and great-grandkids whom they care for as well, don't you?


So explain the large number of seniors who are climate change deniers. Surely if this was the case then they'd care about their future too, right?

You have provided argument just for disenfranchising them.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:21 pm

Drongonia wrote:
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Probably trying to remember when they last went to the toilet, or what pedal makes the car go vroom.

This is straight up sad.


It is. Why is the next government being determined by people who can't remember what day it is?
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Postby Khabarovsk Kray » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:22 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Khabarovsk Kray wrote:your mind is inseparably tuned into the progressive wavelength if you even think this suggestion makes any fucking sense at all

Why? Please provide your viewpoint on this situation, and contribute ideas for its improvement.

the best argument has already been made in this thread. the elderly have contributed to their country over the span of their lives, paying taxes and working. denying them the right to vote based on old age is incorrect. they may not live to witness the changes they vote for and if you think that is any reason to disqualify their vote, you really are beyond saving. it's much like raising children. they will outlive you but they are your contribution to the world, and they will make it a better place, it's up to you to guide them. it's a very noble thing.
the idea is a leftist plant. communists absolutely hate old people. old people are everything they despise - living vestiges of culture and history and tradition, and that is why they are eager to kill and abuse them. do this by putting them on a lower place in society.. perhaps a good start would be denying their participation in politics?

i know i haven't reached you. so think of it like this. 70 years from now you are old, liberal ideas still fresh in your mind. the political pendulum has swung in the other direction and the younger generation is overwhelmingly nationalistic. to them you are a dinosaur of a bygone era and they do not care for your ideas. would you be so eager to pass the torch then? i'm sure you'd wish you had the ability to vote
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:23 pm

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Costa Fierro wrote:Why should people with no vested interest in the future of their country be allowed to vote?


Then don't let foreigners vote.


Ideally we'd do away with democracy but for the sake of this argument, if foreigners pay taxes and have acquired permanent residency status then there's no reason why they shouldn't.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:23 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Drongonia wrote:This is straight up sad.


It is. Why is the next government being determined by people who can't remember what day it is?

Yes, ageism is sad.

So why should the next government be determined by people who need to be reminded not to eat laundry detergent?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:23 pm

Scymira wrote:
Great Kysilia wrote:I made the bad choice because I don't wanna disenfranchise people?

Interesting.


Nice try. You know that's not what I was talking about (if you're still mentally able to vote legitimately, that is).

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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:24 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
It is. Why is the next government being determined by people who can't remember what day it is?

Yes, ageism is sad.

So why should the next government be determined by people who need to be reminded not to eat laundry detergent?


They shouldn't. As I have said previously, democracy is a luxury we can no longer afford to have.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:36 pm

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Postby New Helliania » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:44 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:Just like there is an age restriction for when people can vote there should also be an age restriction for when people have to stop voting.

These group of people are most actively chased after by politicians to the detriment of young people who are the main or future participants in the economy and future of a country.

Do you agree with this proposition?


I'm new here so no one really cares what I have to say, but that never stopped me before. :)

In my view, the question is actually fairly nuanced & not a straight forward yes, or No answer. The fact is, even if we disagree, the elderly have a lot of experience and knowledge that we can draw upon. Denying them a voice is to our detriment. As they say, those who don't learn from the past...

HOWEVER - and statements that start like that are tricky, but - Older people are known to have cognitive issues. And while I am in favor of Compulsory voting, the fact is that the Majority opinion is not always the right opinion. So I believe that Voting should be subject to a strictly regulated Mental acuity/competency exam to show that one has the where-withall to do so, especially the elderly.

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Postby Zess » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:50 pm

I think they absolutely should be allowed to vote. Any individual with an educated understanding of what they are voting for should be able to. While sometimes their opinions may be a bit dated and not up to current events sometimes it wouldn’t really be a democracy without their views taken into account.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:59 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Yes, ageism is sad.

So why should the next government be determined by people who need to be reminded not to eat laundry detergent?


They shouldn't. As I have said previously, democracy is a luxury we can no longer afford to have.

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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 pm

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Perruzio Veloce wrote:Maybe people should be allowed to vote but they must pass a political knowledge test first, demonstrating their knowledge of the political system.

Yeah that totally won’t be exploited :roll:
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