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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:10 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:Arrest Georgulas, the Judge, Jury and others involved at bayonet point, black bag 'em and then send them on a nice journey to that place called Gitmo. You don't argue with their lunacy, you remove them like the parasites they are from society.

TNOEP, no. If you try to do that, the police will shoot you.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:10 am

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She shouldn't be allowed to have custody of any kids at all. :)


Sure, let's give them to their dad, who lied about being gay to duck out of serving his country.

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I don't like the idea of transitioning kids, but the father in this case is no good.


This guy ^ This guy gets it.


Who said anything about the Dad? But yeah, I hope Abbott does the right thing and has Texas CPS take the kids from her.
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Postby Lost Memories » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:11 am

Both parents look terrible and should both lose the custody of their kids.
The father for being abusive.
The mother for being a brainwashing lunatic.

Both are inadeguate to take proper care of the kids.
While getting separated from their original parents is never good for any kid, others will likely do better than them.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:12 am

Lost Memories wrote:Both parents look terrible and should both lose the custody of their kids.
The father for being abusive.
The mother for being a brainwashing lunatic.

Both are inadeguate to take proper care of the kids.
While getting separated from their original parents is never good for any kid, others will likely do better than them.

Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:12 am

Lost Memories wrote:Both parents look terrible and should both lose the custody of their kids.
The father for being abusive.
The mother for being a brainwashing lunatic.

Both are inadeguate to take proper care of the kids.
While getting separated from their original parents is never good for any kid, others will likely do better than them.


Not a bad take tbh.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:12 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Zapato wrote:He - the father - fucking drove one of his children to self-harm and the other to plan to committ suicide. So yes. He, being a lying shit and abusive monster, is not comparable to the mother.


No evidence of the father doing those things

The court disagrees with you.

39) Respondent engaged in inappropriate and hurtful treatment of the Girls.
40) The Girls were good, sweet, hardworking well-mannered children.
41) Respondent forced the Girls to do plank push up for extended periods of time while reaing the "house rules" until the Girls cried.
42) Respondent would lock down the Girls* room and remove all their possession from their rooms and would not let them participate in family activities.
43) Respondent would put the Girls in "silent treatment" and they could not talk unless spoken to for many, many days.
44) Respondent's actions caused barm to the Girls.
45) One of the Girls developed a suicide plan
46) The other Girl was cutting herself.

47) Based in large part on his treatment of the Girls, Petitioner asked Respondent to move
out of the Petitioner's residence.
48) Both Girls improved after Respondent moved out of Petitioner's residence.
49) Respondent lied to the Petitioner about the Girls.


SD_Film Artists wrote:and again I was talking about the mother. Can we really say that her influence on the child had any less of an effect?

Obviously yes.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:12 am

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Secularism doesn't inherently lead to transitioning kids.


It pretty much does tbh. Once you remove institutional power from conservative leaning things like the church or whatever it's really only a matter of time until progressivism keeps pushing further and further.

Then give institutional power to more moderate institutions. There are ideas on social policy that stand between ultraconservative churches and ultraprogressives.

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You can’t break the laws of physics. Reality would break down.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Arrest Georgulas, the Judge, Jury and others involved at bayonet point, black bag 'em and then send them on a nice journey to that place called Gitmo. You don't argue with their lunacy, you remove them like the parasites they are from society.

TNOEP, no. If you try to do that, the police will shoot you.


Police shooting on Army troops out of Fort Hood? That won't end well for them.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:14 am

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Twilight Imperium wrote:Hey, maybe if we break enough of God's laws of physics He'll decide to come and visit. He can compare notes with the guys at CERN!

You can’t break the laws of physics. Reality would break down.

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:Both parents look terrible and should both lose the custody of their kids.
The father for being abusive.
The mother for being a brainwashing lunatic.

Both are inadeguate to take proper care of the kids.
While getting separated from their original parents is never good for any kid, others will likely do better than them.

Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?


My guess is that a child doesn't have the intelligence at the age of 3 to contemplate the possibility of changing gender which leads to the obvious conclusion that the mother is forcing it upon the child which is no better than a child being told their whole life to hate a person or group of people. Even at the age of 7 a child shouldn't be considering things like transitioning. Something is very wrong and twisted here and I feel very sorry for the child.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:15 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Ifreann wrote:TNOEP, no. If you try to do that, the police will shoot you.


Police shooting on Army troops out of Fort Hood? That won't end well for them.

You're not Army troops. You're just some dude. If you go around threatening people with a bayonet you're going to get in a lot of trouble.
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Postby Crockerland » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:16 am


All of your sources are the same website, Lifesitenews, which is an anti-LGBT hate site and conspiracy theory/fake news propagator; Lifesitenews has made up many false stories in the past for the purposes of pushing propaganda narratives, such as spuriously claiming that Canada had passed a law allowing parents to euthanize their disabled children or that tetanus vaccines were used to carry out mass sterilization in Kenya.

Obviously 7 is much too young for anyone to be undergoing gender transition therapy of any kind, but it's very unlikely things are going down as this fake news website reports.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:16 am

Kowani wrote:
Twilight Imperium wrote:Hey, maybe if we break enough of God's laws of physics He'll decide to come and visit. He can compare notes with the guys at CERN!

You can’t break the laws of physics. Reality would break down.


This thread already burns like hellfire, thats for sure.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Arrest Georgulas, the Judge, Jury and others involved at bayonet point, black bag 'em and then send them on a nice journey to that place called Gitmo. You don't argue with their lunacy, you remove them like the parasites they are from society.

TNOEP, no. If you try to do that, the police will shoot you.

Don't worry, it's just another dictatorial fantasy by the looks of it. Totally harmless as a result.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:17 am

Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?


My guess is that a child doesn't have the intelligence at the age of 3 to contemplate the possibility of changing gender which leads to the obvious conclusion that the mother is forcing it upon the child which is no better than a child being told their whole life to hate a person or group of people. Even at the age of 7 a child shouldn't be considering things like transitioning. Something is very wrong and twisted here and I feel very sorry for the child.

Your guess isn't a very compelling argument.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:17 am

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Ifreann wrote:Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?


My guess is that a child doesn't have the intelligence at the age of 3 to contemplate the possibility of changing gender which leads to the obvious conclusion that the mother is forcing it upon the child which is no better than a child being told their whole life to hate a person or group of people. Even at the age of 7 a child shouldn't be considering things like transitioning. Something is very wrong and twisted here and I feel very sorry for the child.

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Postby Yuyencia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:18 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It pretty much does tbh. Once you remove institutional power from conservative leaning things like the church or whatever it's really only a matter of time until progressivism keeps pushing further and further.

Then give institutional power to more moderate institutions. There are ideas on social policy that stand between ultraconservative churches and ultraprogressives.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:19 am

Crockerland wrote:

All of your sources are the same website, Lifesitenews, which is an anti-LGBT hate site and conspiracy theory/fake news propagator; Lifesitenews has made up many false stories in the past for the purposes of pushing propaganda narratives, such as spuriously claiming that Canada had passed a law allowing parents to euthanize their disabled children or that tetanus vaccines were used to carry out mass sterilization in Kenya.

Obviously 7 is much too young for anyone to be undergoing gender transition therapy of any kind, but it's very unlikely things are going down as this fake news website reports.

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:19 am

Ifreann wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:Both parents look terrible and should both lose the custody of their kids.
The father for being abusive.
The mother for being a brainwashing lunatic.

Both are inadeguate to take proper care of the kids.
While getting separated from their original parents is never good for any kid, others will likely do better than them.

Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?

Clearly following recommendations of mental health professionals means you are a lunatic. I mean, they are mental health professionals!
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:20 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Secularism doesn't inherently lead to transitioning kids.

And theocracy can lead to it. Hi Iran, we see you with your cis gay people transitioning to not die

I cannot believe I forgot about that, thanks for reminding me.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:21 am

Gravlen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why do you think that the mother is a brainwashing lunatic?

Clearly following recommendations of mental health professionals means you are a lunatic. I mean, they are mental health professionals!

Imagine believing in science. We all know the earth is flat and vaccines give kids autism
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:21 am

Twilight Imperium wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:It's almost like courts can and often are wrong. Some of the things on this list, there's literally no way to prove happened beyond hear say.


So therefore we should all be on the dad's side because he's part of our "anti-trans" tribe? :roll:


> Mother provably unilaterally decided to transition a 3 year old.

> Agree that somehow she's totally mentally stable and not just saying shit to get her way.

Women allege abuse all the time in divorce court. She has more money and thus can pay off better witnesses. On top of existing bias that presumes all men are abusive time bombs waiting to happen.

Is it possible the dad is also abusive? Sure. It's possible. However it's not just possible but certain that the mother is. If there is proof beyond hearsay, then by all means. Remove the father from the picture. But in that case, they need to go to Foster care. Not the mother.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:21 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It pretty much does tbh. Once you remove institutional power from conservative leaning things like the church or whatever it's really only a matter of time until progressivism keeps pushing further and further.

Then give institutional power to more moderate institutions. There are ideas on social policy that stand between ultraconservative churches and ultraprogressives.


Moderate institutions functionally don't exist, everyone ends up leaning one way or another.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:22 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:And theocracy can lead to it. Hi Iran, we see you with your cis gay people transitioning to not die

I cannot believe I forgot about that, thanks for reminding me.

Don't worry, I'm very big on reminding people of obscure human rights crises
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