Should military schools be banned?

[No Names Left Damn It]

Al-Qaeda in Iraq is shattered.

Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place.

[Secruss]

orly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_Iraq

[Eofaerwic]

orly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_Iraq

Before or after the invasion? No one's going to dispute that after Saddam's regime was deposed Al Qaeda got quite a foothold, but before then, in any significant capacity, I think not.

[Farnhamia]

orly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_Iraq

Read the "Rise and Decline" section in that article. It says that al-Qaeda only moved to Iraq after the US invaded Afghanistan. I cannot imagine a secular leader like Saddam, for all his Islamic posturing, welcoming religious fundamentalists to hang out in his country and operate independently of him.

[Secruss]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

[Farnhamia]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

No, before we invaded Afghanistan. Saddam's genocidal actions and tyranny are not the point.

[Grave_n_idle]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

I'm wondering which part of the commonly used phrase "in the first place" it was that confused you.

[Farnhamia]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

I'm wondering which part of the commonly used phrase "in the first place" it was that confused you.

I marked the ones in your post.

[Dyakovo]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

Saddam had no connection with Al-Qaeda, for one thing he was the wrong kind of muslim (Sunni), for another he wasn't a devout muslim.

[Scarsaw]

I have to admit, the jump between Afghanistan and Iraq was never clear, nor UN sanctioned. Makes me glad us Canadians didn't hop on that bandwagon, as really I think the US should had stayed with us in Afghanistan until the region was more stable before moving on. Now they just made them self a two front half-arse war, and made the work harder...in my opinion.

[Dyakovo]

I have to admit, the jump between Afghanistan and Iraq was never clear, nor UN sanctioned. Makes me glad us Canadians didn't hop on that bandwagon, as really I think the US should had stayed with us in Afghanistan until the region was more stable before moving on. Now they just made them self a two front half-arse war, and made the work harder...in my opinion.

I'd say that your analysis of the situation is spot-on...

[Farnhamia]

Then the statement:

"Al-Qaeda were never in Iraq to be shattered in the first place."

Is only true before Saddam who was a genoical tyrant anyway.

Saddam had no connection with Al-Qaeda, for one thing he was the wrong kind of muslim (Sunni), for another he wasn't a devout muslim.

Actually, Dyakovo, al-Qaeda is a fundamentalist Sunni movement. But Saddam was the wrong kind, a secular, non-fundamentalist ruler. And al-Qaeda's founder, bin Laden, is a Saudi and Saddam had no love for things Saudi Arabian.

[Milks Empire]

*consults with Daily Mail*
No, we shouldn't Ban This Sick Filth^TM

because you do not personally agree with something, it becomes "sick filth" and nobody should be allowed to have it. nice sentiments.

ain't liberal tolerance a grand thing?

Never heard of sarcasm, I see.

[The South Islands]

I have to admit, the jump between Afghanistan and Iraq was never clear, nor UN sanctioned. Makes me glad us Canadians didn't hop on that bandwagon, as really I think the US should had stayed with us in Afghanistan until the region was more stable before moving on. Now they just made them self a two front half-arse war, and made the work harder...in my opinion.

Silly Canada, thats what your job is. Clean up after our wars when we get distracted by Shiny Things (tm).

[New Heliopolis]

I see Military school being useful for known troublemakers, to straighten them out. Or people planning to join the army one day.

They have their purposes for society. But no one should be forced to go to them.

^Exactly.

[Barzan]

Don't hate the brave men and women that wear the uniform because you disagree with the conflicts. Soldiers obey orders.

Right on. From what I've studied, many high-level officers who have been in actual combat do not want to start unnecessary wars, such as Iraq, as they've seen what it's like. They would rather shore-up the home front and work on deterrence. Also, some Chapter 6 & 7 UN Peacekeeping missions too.