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Stunningly good looking but a communist
34
16%
Stunningly good looking and a fascist
21
10%
Average and lean right
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16%
Average and lean left
50
24%
Cave troll and lean right
11
5%
Cave troll and lean left
10
5%
Beauty is skin deep, ugliness is to the bone
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12%
Well.. my avatar is pretty sexy..
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:53 am

Liriena wrote:Mark Ruffalo is far better looking than Adam Sandler, and I'd date Susan Sarandon over Ann Coulter any day of the week. Just sayin'.

>tfw Susan is older than my grandma but she still looks hotter than an 56 year old Ann Coutler

Also, don't you be talkin shit about my Sandler. I will beat you up in Beyblade (Is that still cool?).
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:54 am

Liriena wrote:Mark Ruffalo is far better looking than Adam Sandler, and I'd date Susan Sarandon over Ann Coulter any day of the week. Just sayin'.

Mark Ruffalo is... a very odd looking individual.
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kramanica wrote:She's an older woman.

Was probably much better looking in her younger years.


Image

Nope.

A solid 6.5 out of 10.

But remember, exceptions to the rule don't mean the rule is false. ;)
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 am

Topoliani wrote:
Liriena wrote:Mark Ruffalo is far better looking than Adam Sandler, and I'd date Susan Sarandon over Ann Coulter any day of the week. Just sayin'.

>tfw Susan is older than my grandma but she still looks hotter than an 56 year old Ann Coutler

Also, don't you be talkin shit about my Sandler. I will beat you up in Beyblade (Is that still cool?).

Oh, gawd, Beyblade... the horror... the horror...
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:57 am

Kramanica wrote:
Liriena wrote:Mark Ruffalo is far better looking than Adam Sandler, and I'd date Susan Sarandon over Ann Coulter any day of the week. Just sayin'.

Mark Ruffalo is... a very odd looking individual.

He's the only Hulk actor I'd consent to smash, at least. :P
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Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Topoliani » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:58 am

Liriena wrote:
Topoliani wrote:>tfw Susan is older than my grandma but she still looks hotter than an 56 year old Ann Coutler

Also, don't you be talkin shit about my Sandler. I will beat you up in Beyblade (Is that still cool?).

Oh, gawd, Beyblade... the horror... the horror...

;-;
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Postby Post War America » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Mark Ruffalo is... a very odd looking individual.

He's the only Hulk actor I'd consent to smash, at least. :P


I see what you did there.
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Mark Ruffalo is... a very odd looking individual.

He's the only Hulk actor I'd consent to smash, at least. :P

I've always found him strange. But I suppose his quirkiness makes him fitting to play Bruce Banner.
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Postby Aillyria » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:35 pm

I'm often told I'm attractive, and I'm a national syndicalist. So, idk if there's actually anything to this.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:43 pm

MERIZoC wrote:

Tbf, he is one good looking commie.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:47 pm

Nonsense.

Nicolaj Coster-Waldau is very liberal and progressive. So is most of the rest of the GOT cast.

So there is no way this holds up.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:49 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Nonsense.

Nicolaj Coster-Waldau is very liberal and progressive. So is most of the rest of the GOT cast.

So there is no way this holds up.

"endthread/"


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Postby Topoliani » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:53 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Nonsense.

Nicolaj Coster-Waldau is very liberal and progressive. So is most of the rest of the GOT cast.

So there is no way this holds up.

"endthread/"


Game of Thrones should be banned.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:54 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:

Tbf, he is one good looking commie.

10/10 would human wave attack for him.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Nonsense.

Nicolaj Coster-Waldau is very liberal and progressive. So is most of the rest of the GOT cast.

So there is no way this holds up.

"endthread/"


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Get out.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:40 pm

Ondine wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Wasn't Trump relatively decent looking when young, I think you'd be able to say your teens, 20's and 30's can create the mindset that can reach into later uglier years.

Image


What point is that supposed to make? If you're posting it on the assumption that people will see it and go, "Oh, wow, Trump looks better," you shouldn't have bothered.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:42 pm

Trumptonium wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
It's not communist anyway.


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No, it's only communist if it has a collectivist economy instead of being full of private businesses.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:24 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Ondine wrote:
Image


What point is that supposed to make? If you're posting it on the assumption that people will see it and go, "Oh, wow, Trump looks better," you shouldn't have bothered.


It does show a better looking fellow on the right than left.

Melina is much better looking than hillary is as well, though tbf to hillary she was quite the babe in law school.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:50 pm

Topoliani wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:

Sorry, MERIZoC, Sovaal beat you to it.
Sovaal wrote:
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I have no choice but to permanently put Sovaal on the "foe" list. I'm sorry but its for the best.

Anywayyyy

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Postby Lost Memories » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:05 pm

So someone leaning on left can't be also individualistic?
That sounds like a bad premise.
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Postby Republican Corentia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:08 pm

Bombadil wrote:Various studies over the years have shown that a person’s physical appearance significantly colours their life experience, and Peterson and Palmer say these life experiences mould our political views.

“Attractiveness matters. When we are treated differently we begin to perceive the world differently,” says Peterson. “Research shows good-looking people tend to get on better in life because people interact with them differently.”

The study reports this can lead them to have a “blind spot” when it comes to understanding the hardships faced by others – making them more likely to embrace individualism and reject the types of social assistance and welfare aid more commonly promoted by leftwing policy.

“All attractive people are not conservative and not all unattractive people are liberals,” said Peterson. But he added: “Attractiveness gives a person a small push in the conservative direction.”


Link-a-dink..

It's science people.

I would argue that privilege, of which attractiveness can be a factor, is what leads to this idea that the world is pretty decent and fair place so there must be something wrong with these welfare scroungers. I am not unattractive in that I'm 6.2, with green eyes and somewhat dirty blond hair.. I certainly notice I get better treatment in general, I get smiled at more, I can smile myself into an upgrade.. I get listened to at work..

..but what say the dark denizens of NSG, that endless pool of human understanding and wisdom?

"These results were compared with the Wisconsin Longitudinal study which focused on the physical characteristics of more than 10,000 high school students who were rated by others on their level of attractiveness.

They said a connection between an individual’s physical attractiveness and political beliefs could be revealed. They found that attractive people faced fewer hurdles navigating the social world and were more likely to be conservative due to the blind spot theory."

>high schoolers

Reminder high schoolers, left-wing or right-wing, still haven't experienced much of the world yet.

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:22 pm

Alvecia wrote:The study and abstract for those curious. Nothing pisses me off more than not linking the study in the article about the study.

Ah, good! Somebody else read the actual paper too!

Alvecia wrote:And if anyone is curious how they determined how attractive someone is:
In the ANES, our measure of attractiveness is taken from an interviewers’ single, subjective rating following the completion of the interview. Similarly to the traditional ANES interviewer assessments, these were made on a five-point scale. In this case, interviewers were asked to rate the respondent on a scale from 1 (homely) to 5 (strikingly handsome or beautiful).9

In addition, to serve as a replication and extension, we supplement this measure with a more detailed item collected in the WLS, which consists of normed ratings from 12 evaluators (6 men and 6 women), collected entirely distinctly from the interview process. Rather than a measure taken by a single interviewer, attractiveness ratings were collected separately by a series of coders. Respondents’ high school yearbook photos from 1957 were collected and rated by twelve individuals (six men and six women), with the subsequent scores being normed to remove coder effects.10

This exogenous, more robust measure of appearance safeguards the validity concerns of the ANES measure, and the longer duration of the time series gives us greater leverage on the socializing effects of appearance on political behavior. Together, we believe these distinct assessments of appearance will provide us with a valid picture of how physical attractiveness influences adult political beliefs.

Unspoiled, paragraphed, and emphasized.

So, for their first "proof", they used an entirely subjective measure of attractiveness from one person, written down after the interviewer asked about the person's politics. Uh-huh. The "results" of that part may show nothing more than that the interviewer had a right-leaning bias. The experimental design is so poor as to render this part meaningless. (Also, that's "data" from the 1970s. Maybe things have changed in fourty years?)

The second "proof" is just as bad. While the method is better, it's a survey of people born just before WW2 -- as the authors note, they were 62 to 73 years old when interviewed -- which isn't a generation known for lots of tolerance for people who looked or acted differently. Also, they find that attractiveness predicts party identification (Republican or Democratic brands) much more strongly than ideology (extreme liberal to extreme conservative), and neither is as strong an effect as eduction or income.

Maybe rather than trying to cherry-pick historical data, the authors could run some surveys of more typical people these days?
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:57 pm

I'm quite right wing, but I lean more towards producerism, neo-mercantilism, and christian democracy as a form of economics than austrian school- most of my conservatism is grounded in extreme social views rather than economics(up until Trump I would've been more comfortable with the democrats economics plan). I've received a lot of comments about how attractive I am.
I propose the alternate version- conservatism is about conformism more than liberalism. People who break society's rules(even if unwritten) get the short end of the stick- whether that's homosexuals, drug users, or any other dramatic example you care to name- and no sympathy. I can see physical attractiveness tying into that pretty easily.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:09 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Being attractive does change the way people interact with you, but it's not always a plus. It's annoying when you're not looking for a man, but you keep meeting guys that want to get in your pants. Not that ships wear pants, but you get my drift.

That you're attractive?
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Postby Benjamin Lafayette Sisko » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:24 pm

Maybe it's a bit biased? Most rich people tend to be more attractive due to the ability to afford better cosmetics. And they are more often right wingers than left?
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