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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:07 pm

Lydenburg wrote:Why is this so bad, exactly?

Because it's a bunch of nonsense that was banned long ago.
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Postby Republic of Greater America » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:07 pm

Seriously? Just one more reason to stay far away from the South. People. The Earth is more than 6,000 years old, men did NOT live with dinosaurs, and evolution is real.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:So... when are we going to teach kids that the earth is flat?

Or about intelligent falling.
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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

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there are private school for people of each believong if youre in catholic school youre there to be cristian , if not , got to other school

Uh, no. I went to a Catholic school here in Belgium. Guess what? They taught us evolution is true and creationism is false!


they indoctrinated you

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Bundesdeutschland wrote:I really wouldn't mind putting creation in our textbooks...but the fact that people see this as a step to teaching that the Earth is flat is absolutely ridiculous and annoying, in my opinion.

They're both equally full of bullshit.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Lydenburg wrote:Why is this so bad, exactly?

Nobody said that Texas must be promoting creationism in every textbook. Americans had this same discussion some sixty years ago, when evolution was first placed in some state curriculums. It wasn't promoted, merely taught as another popular theory.

Because teaching something that fails to meet requirements for a hypothesis alongside one of best established scientific theory is stupid and unjustifiable.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:This wouldn't have happened if the Nazis had won.

If the Nazis had won, I'm sure we'd be taught how Hitler created the universe...
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Postby Sensorland » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

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How is breaching the separation of church and state a redeeming factor?

It's not breaking it. The church had nothing to do with it. The state decided that it might be nice for once if people knew something more than "We evolved from monkeys" (and I KNOW we didn't evolve from monkeys, but that's sarcasm for you.)
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
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No beliefs belong in religious studies, not a science class room.


but yes in a catholic school

Last I heard the Theory of Evolution has had the backing of the Catholic church for better than 50 years now......
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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Divair wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:Why is this so bad, exactly?

Because it's a bunch of nonsense that was banned long ago.
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:08 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:I really wouldn't mind putting creation in our textbooks...but the fact that people see this as a step to teaching that the Earth is flat is absolutely ridiculous and annoying, in my opinion.

Creationism is an outdated belief, as is the Earth being flat.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

Lydenburg wrote:Why is this so bad, exactly?

Nobody said that Texas must be promoting creationism in every textbook. Americans had this same discussion some sixty years ago, when evolution was first placed in some state curriculums. It wasn't promoted, merely taught as another popular theory.

It has nothing to do with what's popular, it has to do with what is factual.
Evolution is factual, Creationism is not. Therefore Evolution is taught and Creationism isn't.

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I wouldn't know, I've been sleeping.
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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
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No beliefs belong in religious studies, not a science class room.


but yes in a catholic school



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Postby Ainin » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Uh, no. I went to a Catholic school here in Belgium. Guess what? They taught us evolution is true and creationism is false!


they indoctrinated you

By teaching science as opposed to doctrine, you get indoctrinated. Seems legit.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

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How is breaching the separation of church and state a redeeming factor?

It's not breaking it. The church had nothing to do with it. The state decided that it might be nice for once if people knew something more than "We evolved from monkeys" (and I KNOW we didn't evolve from monkeys, but that's sarcasm for you.)

That's not sarcasm.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Uh, no. I went to a Catholic school here in Belgium. Guess what? They taught us evolution is true and creationism is false!


they indoctrinated you


:palm: , I can't take you seriously when you post this stuff.

That is by far the most contradictory post I've seen in my life, creationism in public schools defines indoctrination.
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:Why is this so bad, exactly?

Nobody said that Texas must be promoting creationism in every textbook. Americans had this same discussion some sixty years ago, when evolution was first placed in some state curriculums. It wasn't promoted, merely taught as another popular theory.


Creationism has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us.


Sixty years ago, you might have been saying somewhere in the Bible Belt,

"Evolution has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us."

You see what happens when we talk in absolutes?

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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Uh, no. I went to a Catholic school here in Belgium. Guess what? They taught us evolution is true and creationism is false!


they indoctrinated you


You were indoctrinated with those religious morals and beliefs as a child, weren't you?
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

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Need a name wrote:Go texas! By my standards you have redeemed yourself!


How is breaching the separation of church and state a redeeming factor?


It is a step towards Texas becoming more Godly, which is good.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:Because it's a bunch of nonsense that was banned long ago.
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i see youre intolerant


I think it's the other way around.
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Postby Castille de Italia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

As a Texas teacher and a staunch conservative, this is wrong. Schools receive federal funding, therefore there has to be separation of church and state. This is against the US Constitution.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:Because it's a bunch of nonsense that was banned long ago.
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i see youre intolerant

Yes, I'm intolerant to bullshit. Deal with it.

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:09 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Uh, no. I went to a Catholic school here in Belgium. Guess what? They taught us evolution is true and creationism is false!


they indoctrinated you

Haha, no. They taught use FACTS!
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