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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:28 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Same Sex Marrige should be illegal. I my self am not a christian, but I think that two members of same sex getting married is not right. It does not make any sense. Plus if we do allow gays to get married in more places imagine what would happen. Now say you have a nation of 200 million people. 55% of your nation is homsexual. That means 55% of your people cant produce children. Your nation suffer depopulation. If 45% of your population have kids. Whos say that kids that are born arent going to homosexual. That means population will ever so die. My conclusion is homosexualism is a gene not a life choice. A gene that without the properties of sterillization does its job through ensuring that the host has no offspring by being attracted to a member of the same sex. This is just a theory, not fact. Dont be mad at me please. Im not trying to "troll" anyone in any way. I am just stating a theory I have.

Homosexuals can reproduce. Sperm and egg doners, yo.

There is also no evidence to your so so so silly theory.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:29 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Legalizing same-sex marriage causes you to have 55% become gay?


No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

How the hell did you come to that conclusion?
Homosexuality is known to be recessive and be in no more then about 10% of the populous.

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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:29 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Legalizing same-sex marriage causes you to have 55% become gay?


No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading to a lack of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

There are no countries like that, though. :eyebrow:
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:37 pm

Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that they have this unusal, and uncontrolable attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future. If homosexualism is indeed a gene, the world could suffer greatly if governments start approving hommosexual relations. Again this is my theory.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:38 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that cant they this unusal attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future.

:palm: What the fuck are you talking about? Your entire argument is born out of ignorance.

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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:39 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that cant they this unusal attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future.

Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.
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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:39 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that cant they this unusal attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future.

What does marriage have to do with child bearing? Not everyone who wants to get married wants to have children.
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Postby Lithosano » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:46 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that they have this unusal, and uncontrolable attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future. If homosexualism is indeed a gene, the world could suffer greatly if governments start approving hommosexual relations. Again this is my theory.


People love kids. People love kids so much, I swear to God we're going to breed our species in extinction. Gay people are no exception.

For your theory to hold, all gay people have to suddenly start hating kids and never have any. Unless you can provide proof that this is happening, it's safe to assume that gay couples want kids like their straight counterparts.

You also seem to be afraid of the "homosexual gene" spreading... but insist that gay people won't have kids. Literally the only way for the "gay gene" to spread is if gay people have kids. Your two "theories" are mutually exclusive. Either gay people stop having kids and the species goes extinct/the nation collapses (INCREDIBLY unlikely and only possible in a gay majority country, which exists no where.), or gay people continue to have kids and the "gay gene" gets passed on (But since they're still having kids... the species/society survives. Albeit in a more fabulous form.)
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:47 pm

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The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that cant they this unusal attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future.

Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:49 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that they have this unusal, and uncontrolable attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future. If homosexualism is indeed a gene, the world could suffer greatly if governments start approving hommosexual relations. Again this is my theory.

Not a single sentence in your entire rambling, incoherent post was even remotely close to compelling, truthful, well-informed or even relevant. You provided no credible sources for any of your assertions, and your entire proposal depends upon a highly unrealistic attempt at a "slippery slope" argument. If you want to rant and ramble against same-sex marriage, do so in realistic terms, not delusional and far-fetched abstracts that are not even worthy of a thorough response.

Nevermind the fact that this thread is about religious wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples, not the legalization of civil marriage for same-sex couples. If you want to discuss the secular institution of marriage, give us a thread and a thorough, well-developed opening post. This is not the thread for your lousy attempt at twisting social sciences to suit your political ideology, and you should take that bullshit elsewhere.

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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:49 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

Really, really. Sperm and egg doners, a bisexual/pansexual person in a same-sex marriage could have a child, and science will find more ways.

And again, there is no proof the rates of homosexuals will rise to 55%.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

Sorry you don't get to shift the goalposts. Same-sex couples can and do have kids, fact.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 pm

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No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

How the hell did you come to that conclusion?
Homosexuality is known to be recessive and be in no more then about 10% of the populous.

The proportion of homosexual serial killers, which I consider a much more accurate measurement than self-indentification, is higher, although nowhere near fifty.

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Postby Lithosano » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:51 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.


Appeal to Nature with a good helping of Moving The Goalposts.

What makes "natural" reproduction better? What's wrong with adoption or surrogacy, especially given the sorry state of many adoption agencies?
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The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

So, you are speaking in terms of an abstract "should be" rather than concrete reality when it comes to human procreation? The very main pillar of your argument hinges upon your denial of objective reality in favor of your idealized concept of human coupling?

Holy fatuous bullshit, Catman.
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Postby Lithosano » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:53 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:How the hell did you come to that conclusion?
Homosexuality is known to be recessive and be in no more then about 10% of the populous.

The proportion of homosexual serial killers, which I consider a much more accurate measurement than self-indentification, is higher, although nowhere near fifty.


... what. How does that even work? What's the criteria for a "homosexual" serial killer? How does your method deal with obvious statistical issues, namely the fact that serial killers are an incredibly small minority?
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Genivaria wrote:How the hell did you come to that conclusion?
Homosexuality is known to be recessive and be in no more then about 10% of the populous.

The proportion of homosexual serial killers, which I consider a much more accurate measurement than self-indentification, is higher, although nowhere near fifty.

Yeah, but the chances of homosexuality itself being the main cause of it are...well...yeah. :roll:
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:53 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Legalizing same-sex marriage causes you to have 55% become gay?


No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading to a lack of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

In what country do homosexuals make up 55% of the population?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:55 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Like any gene that inhibits some function what does homosexualism do. You can have children, whats stopping you? Whats stopping them is that they have this unusal, and uncontrolable attraction to the same sex. If 55% of people in this possessed this gene. The world would die. In fact even 50% would have a horrible effect. This is why gay marrige must remain illegal. You cant let them get married not just off of moral, but because of our future. If homosexualism is indeed a gene, the world could suffer greatly if governments start approving hommosexual relations. Again this is my theory.

Human sexuality isn't controlled by a single gene.
Also, homosexuals are capable of reproducing.
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Dyakovo wrote:Legalizing same-sex marriage causes you to have 55% become gay?


No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading to a lack of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

That's the most shameless non sequitur I've read in a long time. Holy shit, was your premise utterly disconnected from your conclusion. And that's without even mentioning the fact that your example itself is so unrealistic as a whole that it's not even funny.

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:56 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:Did you read my post? Homosexuals can reproduce.

And all the places where same-sex marriage is legal haven't had the rate of homosexuals go up too high.


Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

Surrogate parents really give birth to children.
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

Surrogate parents really give birth to children.

You sure? Are they real children?
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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:59 pm

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No you missed my point. If you a nation 200 million people. 55% are homosexual. That means gay marridge is most likely legal in that place. Thus leading to a lack of heterosexual partners, leading to population loss.

In what country do homosexuals make up 55% of the population?

Massachusetts? Seriously, though, a number of countries have legalized same-sex marriage. None of them have a majority population that is gay.
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Dyakovo wrote:Surrogate parents really give birth to children.

You sure? Are they real children?

Of course not, they're gingers. :p

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The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Really? Two men can reproduce? Two women can reproduce? I am talking about natural childbearing. Not adoptions, or surrogates. I am taliking real child birth.

Surrogate parents really give birth to children.

Nuuu! Stop telling us about how the real world works! We're talking about our beloved Jesusland, a realm that exists in our most beloved dreams, where children are only born from married opposite-sex couples, IVF and surrogacy don't exist and gay people exist only in closets to scare our children into abstinence!
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