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Denmark has legalized same sex marriage!

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Do you agree with Denmark's decision?

Yes
679
81%
No
131
16%
Other
25
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Total votes : 835

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Vestr-Norig
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:10 pm

Divair wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage. I think the church should decide for themselves if it should be legal or not. So I do not see this as a good thing. But nevermind, I never liked Denmark anyway.

There is no church and state separation in Denmark. The church is the only one to perform marriages, as far as I can tell.

If Denmark had separation and had civil marriages, though, I'd say let the church decide.

Yes off course, I do now. So it was in Norway too until for a few weeks ago. I still think that gay people could have partnership, rather than getting married, though.
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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:10 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Hey can I join your riot?

The more the merrier.


Me too. Just give me a second to grab my Guy Fawkes mask and crowbar.
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Divair
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:11 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Divair wrote:There is no church and state separation in Denmark. The church is the only one to perform marriages, as far as I can tell.

If Denmark had separation and had civil marriages, though, I'd say let the church decide.

Yes off course, I do now. So it was in Norway too until for a few weeks ago. I still think that gay people could have partnership, rather than getting married, though.

Except there are no civil marriages. Those don't exist in Denmark. Once they have separation of church and state (and they probably will sometime soon, seeing as how Norway just did it) there will be. Until then, this is quite good.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:15 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage.

The Danish government legalised gay marriage on their own. They didn't make the church legalise it. That doesn't even make sense.
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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage.

The Danish government legalised gay marriage on their own. They didn't make the church legalise it. That doesn't even make sense.


Down with the Danish theocracy!
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Saint Abbra
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Postby Saint Abbra » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:25 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage.

The Danish government legalised gay marriage on their own. They didn't make the church legalise it. That doesn't even make sense.

The Danish church is prerogative of the Danish King (Or Queen, currently) who through our constitution delegates power to the government and the parliament.
What the Danish government mandates in religious terms is law in the Church of Denmark.

It's even the minister of church who oversees editions of the Bible (Though I guess not personally).

Also, I am very happy for this. :) I'm conservative enough to think that gay sex is disgusting, but I don't want to be in way of peoples' love. My personal preference shouldn't be the all-or-nothing line of conformism.

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Manahakatouki
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Postby Manahakatouki » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:27 pm

Go Denmark!

Glad to see this happening to more and more countries around the world...
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Rejaina
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Postby Rejaina » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:34 pm

I really don't care for Denmark
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:35 pm

Rejaina wrote:I really don't care for Denmark

So why did you post?

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Postby Manahakatouki » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:44 pm

Divair wrote:
Rejaina wrote:I really don't care for Denmark

So why did you post?


I suppose if people are allowed to say, "I like this," and leave, someone else has the ability to state their opinion negatively...

It's in bad taste, but I'm guessing they can...
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Oakdale
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Postby Oakdale » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:00 pm

Bravo a country can think outside the box, however, once outside the box there is no protection. Denmark is probably thinking they can kill two birds with one stone. They look progressive and give more rights and secondly to piss off the culture of people that make up a small percentage of the pop and use most of the welfare that also demands that Denmark respect their oppressive and absurd religion...

Marriage is the unity between a man and a woman. I think we can come up with a better word to describe same sex marriage. It's like saying that red blue ford. Same rights but new term. For legal and tension purposes

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:14 pm

Oakdale wrote:Bravo a country can think outside the box, however, once outside the box there is no protection. Denmark is probably thinking they can kill two birds with one stone. They look progressive and give more rights and secondly to piss off the culture of people that make up a small percentage of the pop and use most of the welfare that also demands that Denmark respect their oppressive and absurd religion...

Marriage is the unity between a man and a woman. I think we can come up with a better word to describe same sex marriage. It's like saying that red blue ford. Same rights but new term. For legal and tension purposes



That made... almost no sense whatsoever.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:17 pm

Divair wrote:
Digitia Klosetia wrote:WELP, I guess I live in the last Scandinavian state to still have some respect for traditional values and basic human dignity. Enjoy Hell, smørrebrød fuckers.


seriously though why do we always have to be the most boring of the bunch
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Postby Rejaina » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:20 pm

Divair wrote:
Rejaina wrote:I really don't care for Denmark

So why did you post?


I'm bored
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Postby Rejaina » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:23 pm

Oakdale wrote:Bravo a country can think outside the box, however, once outside the box there is no protection. Denmark is probably thinking they can kill two birds with one stone. They look progressive and give more rights and secondly to piss off the culture of people that make up a small percentage of the pop and use most of the welfare that also demands that Denmark respect their oppressive and absurd religion...

Marriage is the unity between a man and a woman. I think we can come up with a better word to describe same sex marriage. It's like saying that red blue ford. Same rights but new term. For legal and tension purposes


What separates Gay marriage from straight marriage. One could say they should be called different names because historically marriage has been for reproduction. But then how do we explain straight childless marriages
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:44 pm

Oakdale wrote:Bravo a country can think outside the box, however, once outside the box there is no protection. Denmark is probably thinking they can kill two birds with one stone. They look progressive and give more rights and secondly to piss off the culture of people that make up a small percentage of the pop and use most of the welfare that also demands that Denmark respect their oppressive and absurd religion...

Marriage is the unity between a man and a woman. I think we can come up with a better word to describe same sex marriage. It's like saying that red blue ford. Same rights but new term. For legal and tension purposes

Marriage is a union between two people who love each other so much that they wish to spend the rest of their lives together, no second word is needed.

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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:06 pm

Nidaria wrote:This is horrible completely unremarkable for all but the gays, their supporters, and a few nerds. Frankly, I am not surprised that this tragedy event would occur in such a regressive 'progressive' country. After all, a couple of well-educated Danish students never even heard of Christ.

Corrected.
You can gloat over your gradual world domination.

You do realize that you are helping bring out the NWO by supporting the reestablishment of abortion bans and other medieval measures?

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:20 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Nidaria wrote:This is horrible completely unremarkable for all but the gays, their supporters, and a few nerds. Frankly, I am not surprised that this tragedy event would occur in such a regressive 'progressive' country. After all, a couple of well-educated Danish students never even heard of Christ.

Corrected.
You can gloat over your gradual world domination.

You do realize that you are helping bring out the NWO by supporting the reestablishment of abortion bans and other medieval measures?

Ugh! I keep telling you people, New World Order is so last decade, its Terran Federation! Get it right!

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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Corrected.

You do realize that you are helping bring out the NWO by supporting the reestablishment of abortion bans and other medieval measures?

Ugh! I keep telling you people, New World Order is so last decade, its Terran Federation! Get it right!

Same conspiracy, same attempt to take over the world.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:17 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Ugh! I keep telling you people, New World Order is so last decade, its Terran Federation! Get it right!

Same conspiracy, same attempt to take over the world.

Again, conspiracy implies secretive. We're not exactly hiding it.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Same conspiracy, same attempt to take over the world.

Again, conspiracy implies secretive. We're not exactly hiding it.
http://www.wfm-igp.org/site/about
Stop being paranoid.

We obviously aren't talking about the same groups. You guys are the libertarians to Their Santorumites.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Again, conspiracy implies secretive. We're not exactly hiding it.
http://www.wfm-igp.org/site/about
Stop being paranoid.

We obviously aren't talking about the same groups. You guys are the libertarians to Their Santorumites.

What GROUP!? Your just making up boogeymen.

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Postby Ruridova » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Oakdale wrote:Bravo a country can think outside the box, however, once outside the box there is no protection. Denmark is probably thinking they can kill two birds with one stone. They look progressive and give more rights and secondly to piss off the culture of people that make up a small percentage of the pop and use most of the welfare that also demands that Denmark respect their oppressive and absurd religion...

Marriage is the unity between a man and a woman. I think we can come up with a better word to describe same sex marriage. It's like saying that red blue ford. Same rights but new term. For legal and tension purposes

Marriage is a union between two people who love each other so much that they wish to spend the rest of their lives together, no second word is needed.

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Postby No Water No Moon » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Ugh! I keep telling you people, New World Order is so last decade, its Terran Federation! Get it right!

Same conspiracy, same attempt to take over the world.


An actual conspiracy to take over the world is pretty unlikely, in real-life. 'The world' is a pretty big place, it's unlikely anyone really wants all of it - but the idea that you could get enough people working together, in secret, without colossal fuck-ups... it's just unrealistic.

Not to say people aren't power-hungry, they are. They are also dumb, clumsy animals who don't play well together.
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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:54 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:We obviously aren't talking about the same groups. You guys are the libertarians to Their Santorumites.

What GROUP!? Your just making up boogeymen.

I trying to find out whom that group is. I'm not associated with the conspiracy 'theorists', y'know.
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